Melo can thrive more with the cavs and gives Durant issues defensively as Durant would have to extend energy

Only an idiot would think dominating a bunch of Summer league players means he is going to be great.

He plays like shit...Summer league means something

He plays great....it means nothing

Come on man.

The NBA made some very good rule changes yesterday in regards to time outs. I love the new rule to only allow 2 timeouts\team in the last 3 minutes of the game. Hopefully that will improve the flow of the game.

Anthony Bennett had a good summer once. RustShack was here to tell us about it.

He did do some shit that would never EVER work in an NBA game. His drive into traffic and jump/spin 360 pass thing is going to get taken the other way and that's if he doesn't just get straight up thrown to the ground. He did a couple of soft lay-ins on barely contested drives that would've ended up in the 1st row.

Moreover, the argument itself doesn't work. If a guy is dominating A ball, that doesn't mean he's going to be a great major leaguer. If a guy is getting his ass kicked in A ball, it means he won't be.

This is an argument that can absolutely be made to ratchet only a single direction. If a person is terrible against bad competition, that sure as hell says something about their ability to be great against good competition. If a person is great against bad competition, that doesn't say that much about their ability to be great against good competition.

This is pretty straightforward.

Exactly.:clap:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lonzo Ball had 36 points and 11 assists. Before tonight, no player in RealGM&#39;s summer league database (since 2004) had a 30-10 assist game.</p>&mdash; Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) <a href="https://twitter.com/kpelton/status/885354111201193987">July 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Very bust-like.

I totally agree. I'm just speaking to the game to game overreaction/hypocrisy.

The truth is we've learned nothing new about Ball, and won't until we see him for a few seasons against the best of the best.

No doubt.

Before his dad came on the scene (publicly anyway) it was beyond my wildest hopes for the Lakers to get him. LA had started out hot and he looked like a complete non-starter. But damn did I love to watch him play.

His dad makes it so so hard to root for him but the kid himself seems like a nice guy and he's a fun throwback. Sadly, he's 15 years removed from when he would've been at his apex, but if he can clean up that jumper just a bit, there's still a way for him to excel in this league. He'll never have Steph's athleticism to the hoop of play the lock down defense on the perimeter that you'd like to see. His ceiling as a true 'superstar' probably isn't there. But if he has truly ascendant court vision, maybe I'm wrong.

If I am, maybe he can be the next Jason Kidd rather than a rich man's Ricky Rubio. I hope so because the league will be better if he is.

While Lavar is annoying as ****, I do respect what he has done business wise and building a brand. He's the reason why everybody is talking about his sons, and it's definitely not bad publicity, if there is a such a thing business wise outside of criminal activity. I like Lonzo though. He seems like a great kid and I wish him all the success in the world.

I knew about Lonzo Ball before I knew about LaVar. It wasn't until Lonzo was establishing himself as a unique talent that I knew a damn thing about LaVar.

People are talking about Lonzo because he's not something we've seen in a very long time. The pass-first, 'see the angles' pointguard is a dinosaur these days. But they're fun as hell.

People were talking about Ben Simmons just as much last year because we hadn't seen a point forward with his passing skills since Magic (okay, maybe since LeBron, but LeBron was just a freak in so many ways whereas Simmons was a passing forward with the world's ugliest jumper). Unique players get attention and Lonzo would've gotten it without Lavar.

Lavar's influence has been overstated at this point, IMO.

That's because you aren't a casual fan. I'm talking on a bigger scale. Mainstream. Just look at how much more attention Lonzo gets than all of the other guys that were in the draft, including the #1 overall pick. The talent alone doesn't justify all of the attention. If his dad weren't in the picture a lot of casual fans wouldn't even know who he is. There's a lot of people rooting for him to fail simply because of Lavar.

TV isn't about sports smarts.

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