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Iowanian 02-20-2018 04:17 PM

Let's review when he signs his next contract with the Chiefs.

If they keep and extend him, we'll all know that there is no basis in any of my concerns that are shared by Chiefs decision makers.
If the Chiefs trade him this year or next, I guess you can dump a bag of rubber dicks on your head. I'd love to be wrong and have to eat some crow about a HOF corner who turns out to be a ring of honor Chief.
I'll dump that bucket on my own head if I'm wrong and be fine with it.

Simply Red 02-20-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13427333)
Let's review when he signs his next contract with the Chiefs.

If they keep and extend him, we'll all know that there is no basis in any of my concerns that are shared by Chiefs decision makers.
If the Chiefs trade him this year or next, I guess you can dump a bag of rubber dicks on your head. I'd love to be wrong and have to eat some crow about a HOF corner who turns out to be a ring of honor Chief.
I'll dump that bucket on my own head if I'm wrong and be fine with it.

I was right about Reggie Ragland! :)

Iowanian 02-20-2018 04:28 PM

Reggie Ragland is a hammer.

Simply Red 02-20-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13427350)
Reggie Ragland is a hammer.

He was such a good hitter in college - I knew he would be fine - I think the best is yet to come!

pugsnotdrugs19 02-20-2018 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13427267)
http://www.nfl.com/videos/up-to-the-...s-trade-rumors

Garafalo and Rapoport said they have heard nothing about this and they talked to Chiefs reps.

As suspected, it’s all bullshit at this point. This team is ascending and Veach isn’t going to mess that up right now by trading away the best defensive playmaker in football.

Simply Red 02-20-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13427365)
As suspected, it’s all bullshit at this point. This team is ascending and Veach isn’t going to mess that up right now by trading away the best defensive playmaker in football.

why was he making fun of his glasses? - those were sharp. ****ing ears

Simply Red 02-20-2018 04:51 PM

after seeing videos I think I'd change my views on him. He sure was great on the field. Not to beat a dead horse (whatever that means)

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13427365)
As suspected, it’s all bullshit at this point.

Did you watch the entire video?

He specifically stated that while no one has said that the report that Chiefs will trade Peters is accurate, there's also been no confirmation that the rumor isn't accurate.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that this rumor is "bullshit".

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13427365)
This team is ascending

No, it's not.

Unless you believe that somehow, miraculously, the Chiefs, with very little cap space and no first round pick, are going to NAIL the draft and bring in 6 new and effective defensive starters.

Oh, and not lose their best defensive players for the year to injury.

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13427365)
and Veach isn’t going to mess that up right now by trading away the best defensive playmaker in football.

If the Chiefs trade Peters, it won't be because of his football ability, plain and simple.

Shields68 02-20-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13427365)
As suspected, it’s all bullshit at this point. This team is ascending and Veach isn’t going to mess that up right now by trading away the best defensive playmaker in football.

Would agree. Now if the team struggles with Mahomes and unable to extend him, then he would be a prime candidate to be traded before the deadline.

With the CB signings and if they could get a edge rusher the Dee could be pretty darn good until Berry gets hurt again.

Shields68 02-20-2018 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13427377)
Did you watch the entire video?

He specifically stated that while no one has said that the Chiefs will trade Peters, there's also been no confirmation that the Chiefs won't trade Marcus Peters.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that this rumor is "bullshit".



No, it's not.

Unless you believe that somehow, miraculously, the Chiefs, with very little cap space and no first round pick, are going to NAIL the draft and bring in 6 new and effective defensive starters.

Oh, and not lose their best defensive players for the year to injury.



If the Chiefs trade Peters, it won't be because of his football ability, plain and simple.

I am guessing they would be willing to trade him. But at this point the price is probably a #1 and probably not a late round. I do not think he is going anywhere.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 13427381)
I am guessing they would be willing to trade him. But at this point the price is probably a #1 and probably not a late round.

Amazing insight! Thanks!

LoneWolf 02-20-2018 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13427377)
Did you watch the entire video?

He specifically stated that while no one has said that the report that Chiefs will trade Peters is accurate, there's also been no confirmation that the rumor isn't accurate.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that this rumor is "bullshit".

Why would anybody be in the Chiefs organization have to come out and say the rumor isn’t accurate? Dumb ****s like Mike Florio throw shit against the wall every day. If teams had to publicly deny all of these rumors to satisfy your threshold of defining them as bullshit, they would have to hire a full-time rumor denier.


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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13427377)
Unless you believe that somehow, miraculously, the Chiefs, with very little cap space and no first round pick, are going to NAIL the draft and bring in 6 new and effective defensive starters.

Oh, and not lose their best defensive players for the year to injury.

Traded for a stud CB, getting Berry back, getting Cris Conley back, and getting Dee Ford back (for a few weeks anyway). They need to find a NT, ILB, and Safety and I’m not so sure the ILB isn’t already on the team, so I don’t know where you’re getting the six new defensive starters. With the trade of Smith and the expected release of Tamba the Chiefs should have enough cap room to be effective in free agency.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2018 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 13427418)
Why would anybody be in the Chiefs organization have to come out and say the rumor isn’t accurate? Dumb ****s like Mike Florio throw shit against the wall every day. If teams had to publicly deny all of these rumors to satisfy your threshold of defining them as bullshit, they would have to hire a full-time rumor denier.

Give me a break. These guys scoop deals across the NFL every day and have for more than a decade.


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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 13427418)
Traded for a stud CB, getting Berry back, getting Cris Conley back, and getting Dee Ford back (for a few weeks anyway). They need to find a NT, ILB, and Safety and I’m not so sure the ILB isn’t already on the team, so I don’t know where you’re getting the six new defensive starters. With the trade of Smith and the expected release of Tamba the Chiefs should have enough cap room to be effective in free agency.

Murray and Sorenson need to be replaced immediately. The Chiefs only have two inside linebackers under contract and need a true WILL after releasing Derrick Johnson.

The Chiefs only have 3 defensive lineman under contract in Bailey (who's a candidate for a restructure or release), RNR and Chris Jones, who will be coming off surgery for the second consecutive year. Kpassognon is a question mark, as is Dee Ford's health. Dadi Nicolas may be done and there's zero depth at the OLB position.

The Chiefs desperately need an upgrade at LG and don't currently have a slot WR under contract, nor do they have a 2nd or 3rd string QB or a punter.

They not only have a shit ton of starting holes to fill, their depth sucks as well.

This team is not what anyone would describe as "ascending", although with a little luck, they should "ascend" from the 30th ranked defensive spot.

LoneWolf 02-20-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13427426)
Give me a break. These guys scoop deals across the NFL every day and have for more than a decade.




Murray and Sorenson need to be replaced immediately. The Chiefs only have two inside linebackers under contract and need a true WILL after releasing Derrick Johnson.

The Chiefs only have 3 defensive lineman under contract in Bailey (who's a candidate for a restructure or release), RNR and Chris Jones, who will be coming off surgery for the second consecutive year. Kpassognon is a question mark, as is Dee Ford's health. Dadi Nicolas may be done and there's zero depth at the OLB position.

The Chiefs desperately need an upgrade at LG and don't currently have a slot WR under contract, nor do they have a 2nd or 3rd string QB or a punter.

They not only have a shit ton of starting holes to fill, their depth sucks as well.

This team is not what anyone would describe as "ascending", although with a little luck, they should "ascend" from the 30th ranked defensive spot.

Neither Murray or Sorenson are starters once Berry is healthy, but I agree they could use an upgrade at Safety next to Berry. I believe the team will resign KPL and allow him and Eligwe to compete with a draft pick for the starting ILB job next to Ragland. Parker Ehringer will be two years removed from surgery and should compete with a draft pick or a free agent signing at LG. A nose tackle is needed and with RNR, Bailey, and Jones the defensive line should be serviceable. If they can resign Wilson, then there is plenty of young talent at WR.

Shields68 02-20-2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13427426)
Give me a break. These guys scoop deals across the NFL every day and have for more than a decade.




Murray and Sorenson need to be replaced immediately. The Chiefs only have two inside linebackers under contract and need a true WILL after releasing Derrick Johnson.

The Chiefs only have 3 defensive lineman under contract in Bailey (who's a candidate for a restructure or release), RNR and Chris Jones, who will be coming off surgery for the second consecutive year. Kpassognon is a question mark, as is Dee Ford's health. Dadi Nicolas may be done and there's zero depth at the OLB position.

The Chiefs desperately need an upgrade at LG and don't currently have a slot WR under contract, nor do they have a 2nd or 3rd string QB or a punter.

They not only have a shit ton of starting holes to fill, their depth sucks as well.

This team is not what anyone would describe as "ascending", although with a little luck, they should "ascend" from the 30th ranked defensive spot.

Keeping Peters next year actually is helpful to the cap. You have someone who can play at a pro bowl level and has a low cap #. They should or could depending on Bailey and a few others have over 20-25 million to work with. The back up QB's I expect to be bargain basement, one maybe low round draft pick (the teams all in on Mahomes and probably a 2.5 million backup). The 2nd and 2-3rd rounders will solve 3 of your problems above. So you need to sign a starter and depth for somewhere north of 20+ million.

Not the Jets or the Browns but it is doable. Unless you getting 2 starters for Peters one of which is a pro bowler it does not help next years team to move him.


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