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DJ's left nut 10-31-2024 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17774917)
Even if Watson could come back, for him to be a savior when he probably won't run until New Year's means we are ****ed anyways.

They have some pretty cool cardio stuff for guys with leg injuries. He can keep his cardio up.

But the stamina in his legs is a different matter. He can probably be on the low impact stuff like the cycles in December (usually once you're off crutches), but yeah - it's not ideal to be banking on him being in football shape come January.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-31-2024 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17774745)
Fortunately Williams will be forced to play Monday. He is our best bet unless they do trade for someone.

Watson was playing like a top 10 corner, Rashee a top 5 to 10 WR. MASSIVE losses and feel bad for young, developing talent.

Woogieman 10-31-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17774850)
And he’s pretty old. It seems there is pretty strong preference to hire coaches below age 55 around the league. Hell, many of the head coaches lately seem to be younger than 45.

Agreed, and they also prefer offensive minded HCs....but if Spags told his agent to put out the word that he wanted one more shot, surely a few of : LV, NYG, Dalla, JAX, or Carolina would call with blue-steel boners

RunKC 10-31-2024 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17774899)
Get the DL really going and you can mask it a bit. But yeah, you probably need a CB.

I think that was the thought with trading for Uche. The DL was not getting to Purdy very often in the SB, especially from the edge, so they put Sneed and McDuffie on islands and blitzed the shit out of Purdy. A lot of that was bc Ominhu was out for that game and Karlaftis was getting stonewalled by Trent Williams.

With Watson out that plan becomes a bit harder, but with Uche providing him his Osi Umenyiora type speed rusher that could change a lot.

Spags could run the NYG defense only rushing 4 and having more bodies back to help cover.

DJ's left nut 10-31-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17774943)
Agreed, and they also prefer offensive minded HCs....but if Spags told his agent to put out the word that he wanted one more shot, surely a few of : LV, NYG, Dalla, JAX, or Carolina would call with blue-steel boners

I think this is the biggest issue. Teams are typically gravitating towards offensive minded HCs.

And if you're going for a defense guy, you're gonna focus on a younger one, IMO.

Now what I would do if I were a team like NYG or Carolina who might struggle to get 'pick of the litter' among HC candidates, is that I'd talk to a HC like Spags who may have a 3-5 year shelf life AND hire some young hot-shit QB coach or Offensive Assistant as my OC.

And the pitch is a simple one - this guy's gonna get the defense figure out and you're gonna have the keys to the offense. If this works, you're going to get a TON of credit (see Ben Johnson) and you're either in the driver's seat to take Spags job if/when he hangs 'em up or you're going to be a really attractive candidate elsewhere.

I think focusing exclusively on an offensive HC might be a little short-sighted in some circumstances.

crispystl 10-31-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17774786)
I think a big reason for why our defense is so great is the stability and continuity. Top to bottom, everyone knows their role inside and out. They know the scheme, their responsibilities, and they do 'em.

That's what happens when you string together six years of the same scheme and coaching and it's why they'll be good even with the current CB room. It's gonna take a sharp minded CB to come in and get the scheme down on the fly. No blown coverages from misunderstandings. Not impossible but something to think about.

They've also been here long enough to see the results and buy into that system, so that has to help too.

Dunerdr 10-31-2024 11:38 AM

After consideration I am 100 percent convinced that Bard Veusch is completely out




















On not competing for Superbowls!
LFG!!!

Woogieman 10-31-2024 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17774950)
I think this is the biggest issue. Teams are typically gravitating towards offensive minded HCs.

And if you're going for a defense guy, you're gonna focus on a younger one, IMO.

Now what I would do if I were a team like NYG or Carolina who might struggle to get 'pick of the litter' among HC candidates, is that I'd talk to a HC like Spags who may have a 3-5 year shelf life AND hire some young hot-shit QB coach or Offensive Assistant as my OC.

And the pitch is a simple one - this guy's gonna get the defense figure out and you're gonna have the keys to the offense. If this works, you're going to get a TON of credit (see Ben Johnson) and you're either in the driver's seat to take Spags job if/when he hangs 'em up or you're going to be a really attractive candidate elsewhere.

I think focusing exclusively on an offensive HC might be a little short-sighted in some circumstances.

That's a sound, common sense approach...which mean we are safe from poaching by Carolina, both NY teams, Cleveland, and Dallas!

RunKC 11-01-2024 11:35 AM

Gonna be a busy Monday. Might see if an opportunity for a corner is on any of those teams.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Several AFC teams have paused trade talks to see where they stand after Sunday’s games. With so many 2-win teams in the AFC, some aren’t ready to give up on their seasons or trade players at a discount. Sunday’s results will likely tip the scale one way or another before… <a href="https://t.co/np8Jchgx3f">pic.twitter.com/np8Jchgx3f</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1852398590074990978?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RunKC 11-01-2024 11:41 AM

:hmmm:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DC Steve Spagnuolo on defensive trades: &quot;Brett (Veach) is great in that he&#39;s so collaborative. He&#39;s always bouncing things off of me. (Joshua Uche) was not the only name that he came in (and mentioned).&quot; <br><br>👀👀👀</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1852398504926208356?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mosbonian 11-01-2024 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17776666)
Gonna be a busy Monday. Might see if an opportunity for a corner is on any of those teams.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Several AFC teams have paused trade talks to see where they stand after Sunday’s games. With so many 2-win teams in the AFC, some aren’t ready to give up on their seasons or trade players at a discount. Sunday’s results will likely tip the scale one way or another before… <a href="https://t.co/np8Jchgx3f">pic.twitter.com/np8Jchgx3f</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1852398590074990978?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But who would we want to trade with that we haven't already pilfered from?

Saints?
Browns?

New World Order 11-01-2024 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17776890)
But who would we want to trade with that we haven't already pilfered from?

Saints?
Browns?

Lattimore on the Saints

Megatron96 11-01-2024 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17774950)
I think this is the biggest issue. Teams are typically gravitating towards offensive minded HCs.

And if you're going for a defense guy, you're gonna focus on a younger one, IMO.

Now what I would do if I were a team like NYG or Carolina who might struggle to get 'pick of the litter' among HC candidates, is that I'd talk to a HC like Spags who may have a 3-5 year shelf life AND hire some young hot-shit QB coach or Offensive Assistant as my OC.

And the pitch is a simple one - this guy's gonna get the defense figure out and you're gonna have the keys to the offense. If this works, you're going to get a TON of credit (see Ben Johnson) and you're either in the driver's seat to take Spags job if/when he hangs 'em up or you're going to be a really attractive candidate elsewhere.

I think focusing exclusively on an offensive HC might be a little short-sighted in some circumstances.


Not that I believe that it would ever happen, but a good landing spot for Spags might be TB. I think Bowles is on the hot seat and they already have a really good OC and offense. Justneed to fix that defense, and who’s been better at that than Spags?

But I think because of the current trend of hiring young OCs, Coen will get the job.

PatMahomesIsGod 11-01-2024 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17776682)
:hmmm:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DC Steve Spagnuolo on defensive trades: &quot;Brett (Veach) is great in that he&#39;s so collaborative. He&#39;s always bouncing things off of me. (Joshua Uche) was not the only name that he came in (and mentioned).&quot; <br><br>👀👀👀</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1852398504926208356?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I saw Charlie Weiss at a Best Buy in OP. Asked him who the Chiefs were pursuing at the trade deadline.

Winked at me and said “QB”.

DenverChief 11-01-2024 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17776954)
I saw Charlie Weiss at a Best Buy in OP. Asked him who the Chiefs were pursuing at the trade deadline.

Winked at me and said “QB”.

You told me it was IHOP in Lenexa the other day.


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