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'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14512098)
wow what an inning. Is a 10 run lead enough?

If they lose this game you can be rest assured that they will be the most deserving losers in the history of sports.

Frazod 10-09-2019 03:32 PM

Watched most of that on the TV in the lunchroom. Holy ****ing shit.

I may get killed in my sleep tonight. :eek:

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 03:32 PM

Ohhh baby 9-0 first inning. ROFL

jd1020 10-09-2019 03:33 PM

So would you treat this as a bullpen day for Flaherty and take him out after like 30 pitches and have him ready for game 1?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14512113)
Ohhh baby 9-0 first inning. ROFL

It's 10, son.

wisconsinchief 10-09-2019 03:33 PM

Their tomahawk chop was conspicuously absent.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14512115)
So would you treat this as a bullpen day for Flaherty and take him out after like 30 pitches and have him ready for game 1?

It's a smart move, TBH. Belichickian arrogance, but a smart move.

Chief Roundup 10-09-2019 03:35 PM

Definitely a little early for Shildt to go to the all defensive lineup.

Jewish Rabbi 10-09-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14512122)
Definitely a little early for Shildt to go to the all defensive lineup.

You’re trading Carpenter for Bader. Is that really an offensive drop off, they’re both terrible.

DJ's left nut 10-09-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14512110)
Watched most of that on the TV in the lunchroom. Holy ****ing shit.

I may get killed in my sleep tonight. :eek:

I say you shoot your shot here.

"Look babe, you already took it in the ass once today...."

You can either accept the L or try to spin it into history's most unexpected W....

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14512128)
I say you shoot your shot here.

"Look babe, you already took it in the ass once today...."

You can either accept the L or try to spin it into history's most unexpected W....

https://media.giphy.com/media/65os7odbIW6pa/giphy.gif

Frazod 10-09-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14512128)
I say you shoot your shot here.

"Look babe, you already took it in the ass once today...."

You can either accept the L or try to spin it into history's most unexpected W....

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlindGlassEsok-small.gif

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512109)
If they lose this game you can be rest assured that they will be the most deserving losers in the history of sports.

10 run first and your talking about losing with our ace on the mound?:shake:
You should have already posted the Carpenter gif. :harumph:

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512116)
It's 10, son.

I’m 5 minutes behind.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14512150)
10 run first and your talking about losing with our ace on the mound?:shake:

No, I'm not. These are the kind of games that you can just watch and enjoy, because if they lose they completely and utterly deserve it.

jd1020 10-09-2019 03:50 PM

You almost have to play for the next series at this point and take Flaherty out early to have him for game 1.

Stinger 10-09-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14512113)
Ohhh baby 9-0 first inning. ROFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512116)
It's 10, son.

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George Liquor 10-09-2019 03:55 PM

If someone has to get shellacked by LA I want it to be us!

DJ's left nut 10-09-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14512159)
You almost have to play for the next series at this point and take Flaherty out early to have him for game 1.

You get to play for April now - go home.

There's no need to have Flaherty in game 1 on a goofed up routine. He's not a guy you start 3 times; not with the innings he's pitched this year and at his age. You keep him on his rotation and hope to get the absolute best version of him twice in the LCS.

Don't have him throw 110+ or anything, but a nice, tidy, 90 pitch start that has him ready for Game 2 will be just fine. Don't mess around with a kids routine.

jd1020 10-09-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14512171)
You get to play for April now - go home.

There's no need to have Flaherty in game 1 on a goofed up routine. He's not a guy you start 3 times; not with the innings he's pitched this year and at his age. You keep him on his rotation and hope to get the absolute best version of him twice in the LCS.

Don't have him throw 110+ or anything, but a nice, tidy, 90 pitch start that has him ready for Game 2 will be just fine. Don't mess around with a kids routine.

Giving up a potential 3rd game from your ace and hoping that you get 2 wins in non-Flaherty games vs the Dodgers or Nationals seems dumb.

But to each their own. Me, I would want my ace as many games as possible and the Braves just gave you the opportunity to set your optimal rotation for the NLCS.

Are you concerned that your boy Carlos might blow this game?

duncan_idaho 10-09-2019 04:01 PM

****The Official 2019 STL Cardinals Thread****
 
I see the Cardinals called William Tecumseh Sherman our of retirement to manage this one.

Congrats gang.

Jewish Rabbi 10-09-2019 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14512179)
Giving up a potential 3rd game from your ace and hoping that you get 2 wins in non-Flaherty games vs the Dodgers or Nationals seems dumb.

But to each their own. Me, I would want my ace as many games as possible and the Braves just gave you the opportunity to set your optimal rotation for the NLCS.

Are you concerned that your boy Carlos might blow this game?

Yeah but your team ****ing sucks lmao

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14512180)
I see the Cardinals called William Tecumseh Sherman our of retirement to manage this one.

Congrats gang.

TBS announcers are low-key butthurt about it, too.

Rams Fan 10-09-2019 04:13 PM

I know for sure BRC and myself said that if they didn’t make the POs this season a year or 2 ago that it’d be it a disappoint.

I am here to serve massive amounts of crow to the non-believers.

Jewish Rabbi 10-09-2019 04:14 PM

I haven’t seen a choke job this bad since Mia Khalifa and Peter North.

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14512170)
If someone has to get shellacked by LA I want it to be us!

we get spanked and embrassed by the Dodgers every game like we are putting on the Braves, it will still be a way more successful season than I ever thought possible. :thumb:

Rams Fan 10-09-2019 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14512170)
If someone has to get shellacked by LA I want it to be us!

The Dodgers lost the season series to the Cardinals.

Granted, both teams swept each other at home, but still.

George Liquor 10-09-2019 04:21 PM

Lol I know guys.

My point is you cant make the WS if you don't make the LCS.

Frazod 10-09-2019 04:23 PM

Score, please.

I’m on the train now and the MLB page is seriously lagging.

Marcellus 10-09-2019 04:25 PM

This is the least climactic playoff game I have ever watched. Glad to be on the good side of it.

Marcellus 10-09-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14512226)
Score, please.

I’m on the train now and the MLB page is seriously lagging.

13-0 bottom of the 3rd

Sassy Squatch 10-09-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14512226)
Score, please.

I’m on the train now and the MLB page is seriously lagging.

13-0

Rams Fan 10-09-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14512226)
Score, please.

I’m on the train now and the MLB page is seriously lagging.

13-0.

The Year of St. Louis sports continues.

Frazod 10-09-2019 04:27 PM

Thanks. Jesus, what a beatdown.

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14512203)
I know for sure BRC and myself said that if they didn’t make the POs this season a year or 2 ago that it’d be it a disappoint.

I am here to serve massive amounts of crow to the non-believers.

yeah, after our run in April and then the backslide I called the playoffs. Said bookmark it and make fun of me later or something like that. But, I’m an admitted homer so no one takes my proclamations seriously. ;)

I thought being a full year without Matheny and adding Goldy that would be worth at least 5 wins and we’d get the WC with 92 wins.

jd1020 10-09-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14512171)
Don't have him throw 110+ or anything, but a nice, tidy, 90 pitch start that has him ready for Game 2 will be just fine. Don't mess around with a kids routine.

BTW, game 2 of the NLCS is Saturday. If you are keeping Flaherty in his "routine" he wont be available until game 3 on Monday and then you risk only ever seeing your ace 1 time in the NLCS because you wanted to keep him in to pitch a full game up 13-0 in the 3rd.

Rams Fan 10-09-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14512250)
BTW, game 2 of the NLCS is Saturday. If you are keeping Flaherty in his "routine" he wont be available until game 3 on Monday and then you risk only ever seeing your ace 1 time in the NLCS because you wanted to keep him in to pitch a full game up 13-0 in the 3rd.

The rotation hasn’t been an issue, save for Game 4 when Hudson didn’t pitch well.

I have full confidence in Wainwright and Mikolas to pitch well.

They aren’t the ****ing Red Sox.

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14512171)
You get to play for April now - go home.

There's no need to have Flaherty in game 1 on a goofed up routine. He's not a guy you start 3 times; not with the innings he's pitched this year and at his age. You keep him on his rotation and hope to get the absolute best version of him twice in the LCS.

Don't have him throw 110+ or anything, but a nice, tidy, 90 pitch start that has him ready for Game 2 will be just fine. Don't mess around with a kids routine.

yeah, 90 pitches in 5-6 innings sounds right. He’s our Ace. No matter what, we got him for 4 more years. No need to run him into the ground.

We just saw another negative example of pushing your top shelf pitchers on short rest. If we are going to beat the Dodgers, Flaherty can’t do it by himself.

Rams Fan 10-09-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14512264)
yeah, 90 pitches in 5-6 innings sounds right. He’s our Ace. No matter what, we got him for 4 more years. No need to run him into the ground.

We just saw another negative example of pushing your top shelf pitchers on short rest. If we are going to beat the Dodgers, Flaherty can’t do it by himself.

I’m all for running Flaherty like Baumgarner in 2014-for the WS.

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14512257)
The rotation hasn’t been an issue, save for Game 4 when Hudson didn’t pitch well.

I have full confidence in Wainwright and Mikolas to pitch well.

They aren’t the ****ing Red Sox.

Waino on the road against the Dodgers, full confidence?

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14512257)
The rotation hasn’t been an issue, save for Game 4 when Hudson didn’t pitch well.

I have full confidence in Wainwright and Mikolas to pitch well.

They aren’t the ****ing Red Sox.

Waino on the road against the Dodgers, full confidence?

I’d go with Mikolas/Hudson on the road. Save Waino and his one start for Bush.

jd1020 10-09-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14512257)
The rotation hasn’t been an issue, save for Game 4 when Hudson didn’t pitch well.

I have full confidence in Wainwright and Mikolas to pitch well.

They aren’t the ****ing Red Sox.

I would take whatever pitching stats there are from this series with a grain of salt. Prior to this game there was a combined .187 BA with RISP in this series.

Mikolas has been shaky at best for 2 months and Wainwright was chased out of his last regular season game against the Cubs backups.

Rams Fan 10-09-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14512271)
I would take whatever pitching stats there are from this series with a grain of salt. Prior to his game there was a combined .187 BA with RISP in this series.

Mikolas has been shaky at best for 2 months and Wainwright was chased out of his last regular season game against the Cubs backups.

I have more confidence in those 2 than I do Hudson currently. Wainwright scared the shit out of me on the road, though.

I really wish Gant was on the roster right now for mop up duty.

Marcellus 10-09-2019 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14512270)
Waino on the road against the Dodgers, full confidence?

I’d go with Mikolas/Hudson on the road. Save Waino and his one start for Bush.

Good question but I think the playoff intensity would make up for Waino being on the road.

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14512286)
Good question but I think the playoff intensity would make up for Waino being on the road.

Waino has been shit on the road all year. Mostly great at home.

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 05:00 PM

Why is Mikolas up? Who are you planning on pitching in game 1 there Shildty?

Rams Fan 10-09-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14512303)
Why is Mikolas up? Who are you planning on pitching in game 1 there Shildty?

Wainwright.

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14512305)
Wainwright.

even if that’s true, then it’s Mikolas for game 2. You bring him in here for a couple of innings up 10+ then back on Saturday?

Rams Fan 10-09-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14512315)
even if that’s true, then it’s Mikolas for game 2. You bring him in here for a couple of innings up 10+ then back on Saturday?

If they use Mikolas for today, I’d expect the rotation to be as follows:

Wainwright
Hudson
Flaherty
Mikolas

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 05:12 PM

Okay that’s it, get him out of there. 4 innings left. Miller and Martinez can only give up 5-6 runs.

Chief Roundup 10-09-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14512322)
Okay that’s it, get him out of there. 4 innings left. Miller and Martinez can only give up 5-6 runs.

I agree with it is time to pull Flaherty but now come on we have seen those guys pitch.

Jewish Rabbi 10-09-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14512250)
BTW, game 2 of the NLCS is Saturday. If you are keeping Flaherty in his "routine" he wont be available until game 3 on Monday and then you risk only ever seeing your ace 1 time in the NLCS because you wanted to keep him in to pitch a full game up 13-0 in the 3rd.

And when do the Cubs play again?

Chief Roundup 10-09-2019 05:15 PM

Wow so they are going to let Flaherty continue.

jd1020 10-09-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14512326)
Wow so they are going to let Flaherty continue.

You are long past the point of no return in him pitching in 1 of the first 2 games of the NLCS so might as well pitch him til he's done. He's off til Monday. Might be needing your bullpen before then.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 05:24 PM

They need to save Hudson for a home start. Probably should be Mikolas, Waino, then Flaherty.

jd1020 10-09-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512344)
They need to save Hudson for a home start. Probably should be Mikolas, Waino, then Flaherty.

Depends who they get.

Cardinals are the 3 seed and the Nationals are the 4 seed. If the Nationals win, Cardinals will have home field advantage.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14512354)
Depends who they get.

Cardinals are the 3 seed and the Nationals are the 4 seed. If the Nationals win, Cardinals will have home field advantage.

I think you can tell who I'm thinking will win.

jd1020 10-09-2019 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512360)
I think you can tell who I'm thinking will win.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...0ciCvB_27TN68W

Frazod 10-09-2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512360)
I think you can tell who I'm thinking will win.

Well, I thought the Braves would win this series easily, so you never know.

Frazod 10-09-2019 05:35 PM

Oh, and I'm home. Was not greeted with the shotgun.

Promised the wife I'd take her out to a nice dinner tonight somewhere that doesn't have TVs. And while I'll certainly be a prick about this later :) I'll go easy on her tonight.

Megatron96 10-09-2019 05:44 PM

Holy God. Is that score for real?

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512360)
I think you can tell who I'm thinking will win.

yeah, I’ve not even considered the Dodgers blowing it. But, man, that would workout great for our pitching rotation. Waino and Mikolas get to go at home. :thumb:

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14512373)
Oh, and I'm home. Was not greeted with the shotgun.

Promised the wife I'd take her out to a nice dinner tonight somewhere that doesn't have TVs. And while I'll certainly be a prick about this later :) I'll go easy on her tonight.

sounds like a good plan if you ever want to get laid again. :rolleyes:

Frazod 10-09-2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14512408)
yeah, I’ve not even considered the Dodgers blowing it. But, man, that would workout great for our pitching rotation. Waino and Mikolas get to go at home. :thumb:

Plus it would serve up a great big shit sandwich to MLB.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14512232)
This is the least climactic playoff game I have ever watched. Glad to be on the good side of it.

You didn't watch Game 7 of the '96 LCS? Just reverse this game with higher stakes and a more protracted choke job. Awful, just awful. ****ing Osborne.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14512366)
Well, I thought the Braves would win this series easily, so you never know.

You guys really should adopt the reverse jinx more often.

Frazod 10-09-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512428)
You guys really should adopt the reverse jinx more often.

I really feel bad for the wife. She loves the Braves like I love the Chiefs. I certainly know the pain she is feeling right now. All too well.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 06:19 PM

I swear that Cabrera looks like Sho' Nuff.

Frazod 10-09-2019 06:20 PM

Going to Cooperstown this weekend. Initially I really didn't care, since I've been there before.

I'm looking forward to it a lot more all of a sudden. :thumb:

Miles 10-09-2019 06:28 PM

Started watching at work this evening on delay when I got stuck at the office late. Was so satisfying that they were just beating the shit out of the Braves early.

Easy 6 10-09-2019 06:39 PM

I’m not much on baseball, but was listening to the radio with work buds who are as STL went up 10-0 straight outta the gate and that was some old timey magic

It’s such a classic baseball town, congrats to the birds on a bat... incredible showing

jd1020 10-09-2019 06:51 PM

Looks like the Dodgers are going to try to put up 10 in the first inning too.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 06:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Shildt:<br><br>“The [Braves] started some shit. We finished the shit. And that’s how we roll. No one ****s with us ever. Now, I don’t give a **** who we play. We’re gonna **** them up. We’re gonna take it right to them the whole ****ing way. We’re gonna kick their ****ing ass.” <a href="https://t.co/2J7jyJc60O">pic.twitter.com/2J7jyJc60O</a></p>&mdash; STLSportsCentral (@stlsportscntrl) <a href="https://twitter.com/stlsportscntrl/status/1182095291572461568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jewish Rabbi 10-09-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512485)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Shildt:<br><br>“The [Braves] started some shit. We finished the shit. And that’s how we roll. No one ****s with us ever. Now, I don’t give a **** who we play. We’re gonna **** them up. We’re gonna take it right to them the whole ****ing way. We’re gonna kick their ****ing ass.” <a href="https://t.co/2J7jyJc60O">pic.twitter.com/2J7jyJc60O</a></p>&mdash; STLSportsCentral (@stlsportscntrl) <a href="https://twitter.com/stlsportscntrl/status/1182095291572461568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shildty’s gonna be pissed about that getting out lol

Marcellus 10-09-2019 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512427)
You didn't watch Game 7 of the '96 LCS? Just reverse this game with higher stakes and a more protracted choke job. Awful, just awful. ****ing Osborne.

I forgot about that. Cards had a 2-0 lead to start that series too didn't they?

Marcellus 10-09-2019 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14512488)
Shildty’s gonna be pissed about that getting out lol

Yea that won't go over too well. Safe to say he isn't Mike Matheny LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14512491)
I forgot about that. Cards had a 2-0 lead to start that series too didn't they?

3-1

Prison Bitch 10-09-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14512456)
I’m not much on baseball, but was listening to the radio with work buds who are as STL went up 10-0 straight outta the gate and that was some old timey magic

It’s such a classic baseball town, congrats to the birds on a bat... incredible showing

Yep. NLCS is big.

Marcellus 10-09-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512501)
3-1

:banghead:

BigRedChief 10-09-2019 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14512485)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Shildt:<br><br>“The [Braves] started some shit. We finished the shit. And that’s how we roll. No one ****s with us ever. Now, I don’t give a **** who we play. We’re gonna **** them up. We’re gonna take it right to them the whole ****ing way. We’re gonna kick their ****ing ass.” <a href="https://t.co/2J7jyJc60O">pic.twitter.com/2J7jyJc60O</a></p>&mdash; STLSportsCentral (@stlsportscntrl) <a href="https://twitter.com/stlsportscntrl/status/1182095291572461568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WTF? How did that get out? That’s nothing like we have ever heard from him.


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