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Rain Man 04-23-2020 10:17 PM

Reading up on him, he apparently has a good rating for breaking tackles. That matches the profile of what Andy likes.

JakeF 04-23-2020 10:17 PM

Fits our offense, great catcher of the ball

Still surprised he was taken over Swift though, who also fits our offense and is more complete and has more speed.

Chris Meck 04-23-2020 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928660)
Every time Derrick Henry got the ball, he COST Tennessee points.

RBs do NOT add value. Even if RBs can catch passes, they do not add value.

**** me with a sandpaper dildo. This was a bad ****ing decision. KC should have drafted best available LB or CB or IOL. And no, I don’t care how many yards this guy runs for over the next few years. This is a bad ****ing draft choice and if you think otherwise, you don’t understand numbers and probability.

Yeah, you should probably be running an NFL franchise. Obviously Bret Veach and Andy Reid of the Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs are dumb****s but you know what's up.

dirk digler 04-23-2020 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928660)
Every time Derrick Henry got the ball, he COST Tennessee points.

RBs do NOT add value. Even if RBs can catch passes, they do not add value.

**** me with a sandpaper dildo. This was a bad ****ing decision. KC should have drafted best available LB or CB or IOL. And no, I don’t care how many yards this guy runs for over the next few years. This is a bad ****ing draft choice and if you think otherwise, you don’t understand numbers and probability.


In this offense with Mahomes, having a very good or better RB makes this offense pretty much unstoppable. We saw that when we had Hunt.

TwistedChief 04-23-2020 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14928658)
What a bizarre end to the night. I don't get the pick, but we won the Super Bowl so who cares?

This.

Whatever.

Haters here are such bitches. The guy who found Patrick Mahomes just built a Super-Bowl-winning team and then drafted the only RB in the first round and people are doubting him? Huh?

stumppy 04-23-2020 10:18 PM

Now this offense will be unstoppable for the entire four quarters.

smithandrew051 04-23-2020 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928660)
Every time Derrick Henry got the ball, he COST Tennessee points.

RBs do NOT add value. Even if RBs can catch passes, they do not add value.

**** me with a sandpaper dildo. This was a bad ****ing decision. KC should have drafted best available LB or CB or IOL. And no, I don’t care how many yards this guy runs for over the next few years. This is a bad ****ing draft choice and if you think otherwise, you don’t understand numbers and probability.

It’s normally not a good idea to take this strong of a stance on any draft pick. If he’s good, get ready for this meltdown to get quoted over and over.

arrowheadnation 04-23-2020 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928660)
Every time Derrick Henry got the ball, he COST Tennessee points.

RBs do NOT add value. Even if RBs can catch passes, they do not add value.

**** me with a sandpaper dildo. This was a bad ****ing decision. KC should have drafted best available LB or CB or IOL. And no, I don’t care how many yards this guy runs for over the next few years. This is a bad ****ing draft choice and if you think otherwise, you don’t understand numbers and probability.

frozenchief....similar to Captain America, was just dug out of the ice after a 40 year slumber in March or April. He is unaware that we are the reigning Super Bowl champions and that we have absolutely no reason not to trust Veach's decisions at this point. Frozenchief, we welcome you to the year 2020. It's been a shitshow (sans the super bowl of course), but things will be improving in the months to come.

Kiimo 04-23-2020 10:18 PM

Burrow said CEH is the best athlete on the team. Mahomes will love him.

Megatron96 04-23-2020 10:18 PM

I remember this kid. Great change-of-direction. Excellent balance. Good/possibly great vision. Didn't know he was 5' 7". Looks thick.

Andy/Veach must've seen something to draft him with our first pick.

Well, it's off to work i go. Laters.

dirk digler 04-23-2020 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 14928704)
Now this offense will be unstoppable for the entire four quarters.


yup

Mecca 04-23-2020 10:19 PM

Anyone that is bitching is weird to me, running game was our 1 offensive weakness.

siberian khatru 04-23-2020 10:19 PM

Love it. Two guys I saw a lot of last year, every game I’d say, Damn he’d look good with the Chiefs: Travis Etienne and CEH.

kepp 04-23-2020 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 14928704)
Now this offense will be unstoppable for the entire four quarters.

You know, that's a good point. In the 4th, when we're just trying to run clock, a RB like that will definitely help.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-23-2020 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928660)
Every time Derrick Henry got the ball, he COST Tennessee points.

RBs do NOT add value. Even if RBs can catch passes, they do not add value.

**** me with a sandpaper dildo. This was a bad ****ing decision. KC should have drafted best available LB or CB or IOL. And no, I don’t care how many yards this guy runs for over the next few years. This is a bad ****ing draft choice and if you think otherwise, you don’t understand numbers and probability.

Christian McCaffrey says hi

tk13 04-23-2020 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928660)
Every time Derrick Henry got the ball, he COST Tennessee points.

RBs do NOT add value. Even if RBs can catch passes, they do not add value.

**** me with a sandpaper dildo. This was a bad ****ing decision. KC should have drafted best available LB or CB or IOL. And no, I don’t care how many yards this guy runs for over the next few years. This is a bad ****ing draft choice and if you think otherwise, you don’t understand numbers and probability.

If you want to argue picking different guys, that's fair and all, but I would not trust any statistical analysis that says Tennessee has a better chance of winning games if they avoided giving Derrick Henry the ball.

BossChief 04-23-2020 10:20 PM

Seriously. For everyone ever dreaming about having Priest or Charles on this offense.

Now we have that.

I’d have preferred Epenesa or a couple other guys, but CEH is a damn playmaker.

Chris Meck 04-23-2020 10:20 PM

They got their #1 rated RB.

Hard to argue with the #1 player at #32.

stumppy 04-23-2020 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928660)
Every time Derrick Henry got the ball, he COST Tennessee points.

RBs do NOT add value. Even if RBs can catch passes, they do not add value.

**** me with a sandpaper dildo. This was a bad ****ing decision. KC should have drafted best available LB or CB or IOL. And no, I don’t care how many yards this guy runs for over the next few years. This is a bad ****ing draft choice and if you think otherwise, you don’t understand numbers and probability.


Congratulations Pete, you no longer own the worst take ever on CP.

PHOG 04-23-2020 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 14928675)
I remember watching him in the playoffs and thinking I would like to have him on our team. He was impressive.

That was me also. Very Impressive.

OKchiefs 04-23-2020 10:20 PM

I don't absolutely hate the pick, but I'm guessing we're not getting much help at either CB or LB this year again. Would have preferred a RB in the 2nd. Oh well.

Mecca 04-23-2020 10:20 PM

Swift's 5'9, most RBs aren't gonna be 6"1 these days.

Jerm 04-23-2020 10:20 PM

Great pick....what a perfect fit.

Great catcher of the ball, fast and quick enough, tough as hell, and DOES NOT FUMBLE....

He could very well be the OROY. Ecstatic.

Jethopper 04-23-2020 10:21 PM

We finally got a closer. Watch the natty. He got 11 touches in the fourth quarter alone

Why Not? 04-23-2020 10:21 PM

He’s a beast. We gonna score 40 a game.

Mecca 04-23-2020 10:22 PM

CEH also has spent considerable time lined up wide, it's good he's comfortable with that.

JakeF 04-23-2020 10:22 PM

This guy is not really a traditional back.

He is a guy you get into space and let him make 1 guy miss and he takes off. He catches the ball really well and again, makes the 1st guy miss and takes off.

I still don't see how he can go over Swift who can do the same things + more.

:shrug:

Some DE's still there too.

wowser

smithandrew051 04-23-2020 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14928734)
I don't absolutely hate the pick, but I'm guessing we're not getting much help at either CB or LB this year again. Would have preferred a RB in the 2nd. Oh well.

I’m in this boat...buuutttt I’d rather take a good running back than reach for a bad corner or LB to fill a need.

We need young, cheap weapons around Mahomes anyway.

Chris Meck 04-23-2020 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14928720)
Anyone that is bitching is weird to me, running game was our 1 offensive weakness.

yeah I don't get it either.

And I'm one of those who would say the problem was more the offensive line than the backs, but shit, I don't hate this pick. He's a playmaker. Can't argue with that.

As for first round value, well, shit man, it's #32. **** value.

They got their top rated RB on the board; he's a perfect fit for the offense. Can't beat that.

Now go get me some fatties.

srvy 04-23-2020 10:22 PM

A little bit surprising but I am not disappointed. We Just didn't have enough to move up and I trust our GM and HC.

Pablo 04-23-2020 10:23 PM

Happy. Would have a preferred Dobbins but totally on board with their fave rb.

BigBeauford 04-23-2020 10:23 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL not being able to find 12 Chargers fans to fill the screen during the draft is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen <a href="https://t.co/vkCMZ6GFTN">pic.twitter.com/vkCMZ6GFTN</a></p>&mdash; NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1253492479191592961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Warrick 04-23-2020 10:23 PM

I'm good with this pick, I hope he learns how to pass block better, something that will come in time.

JakeF 04-23-2020 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14928746)
CEH also has spent considerable time lined up wide, it's good he's comfortable with that.

He's a perfect fit for us ... but so was Swift, who has more speed and more versatility. Clyde might be there when we picked at the bottom of the 2nd.


really surprising

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2020 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 14928758)
I'm good with this pick, I hope he learns how to pass block better, something that will come in time.

We have D Will for that who’s an excellent blocker

srvy 04-23-2020 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14928646)
Jeremiah just compared him to Priest Holmes!!! My god I’m hard

Except for no Sheild Waters and Roalf.

Kman34 04-23-2020 10:25 PM

He is Hunt light.. tough runner. Great pass catcher..

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-23-2020 10:25 PM

Some people are ignoring the run on LB's and CB's the 10 picks before us...

I thought Cleveland would be a great fit at guard for us, but if we got the RB we thought was best, you gotta do it.

Mecca 04-23-2020 10:25 PM

There will be a RB run in the next round, none of those guys make it to 64.

mlyonsd 04-23-2020 10:25 PM

Seeing him on film. Holy shit can you imagine watching Reek going in motion with him in the backfield? The opposing defense is now totally ****ed with Pat reading them.

George Liquor 04-23-2020 10:27 PM

Frozenchief is acting like we just picked Mitchell Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes

Pitt Gorilla 04-23-2020 10:27 PM

Not sure how Chief Fan doesn’t LOVE this pick. The guy is perfect for this offense. He’s tough and can split out wide. It’s brilliant.

ghak99 04-23-2020 10:27 PM

In Veach we trust.

His playoff games were fun to watch and he's a weapon, but the pick just feels weird to me. Just meh, but Veach could pick a homeless midget off the street and at this point I'd just assume he knows what he's doing.

tk13 04-23-2020 10:27 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Holy offense Bat Man. I love Clyde Edwards-Helaire. He is best Rb in the draft. Watkins and Hill deep. Kelce in the middle. And Edwards-Helaire underneath. Good Luck defenses.</p>&mdash; Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) <a href="https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1253537387088658432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chief Pagan 04-23-2020 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14928625)
Return guy.

I dunno man, I think they should see if he can move to linebacker.

Pitt Gorilla 04-23-2020 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14928769)
There will be a RB run in the next round, none of those guys make it to 64.

That’s how I see it. RBs are going to fly off the board tomorrow.

PurpleRiders51 04-23-2020 10:28 PM

Mecole doesn't seem happy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you telling me out of 32 picks D’ANDRE SWIFT WAS NOT SELECTED 🤦🏾*♂️</p>&mdash; Mecole Hardman Jr. (@MecoleHardman4) <a href="https://twitter.com/MecoleHardman4/status/1253540372426326016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pitt Gorilla 04-23-2020 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14928761)
He's a perfect fit for us ... but so was Swift, who has more speed and more versatility. Clyde might be there when we picked at the bottom of the 2nd.


really surprising

More versatility? How so?

suzzer99 04-23-2020 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 14928583)
<blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="a/XfQLphC" data-context="false" ><a href="//imgur.com/a/XfQLphC"></a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The funny thing about this gif is these guys turned out to be completely right. Fisher was an amazing pick for us.

Ebolapox 04-23-2020 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurpleRiders51 (Post 14928794)
Mecole doesn't seem happy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you telling me out of 32 picks D’ANDRE SWIFT WAS NOT SELECTED 🤦🏾*♂️</p>&mdash; Mecole Hardman Jr. (@MecoleHardman4) <a href="https://twitter.com/MecoleHardman4/status/1253540372426326016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

he'll celebrate in the endzone with clyde cash.

smithandrew051 04-23-2020 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14928783)
Not sure how Chief Fan doesn’t LOVE this pick. The guy is perfect for this offense. He’s tough and can split out wide. It’s brilliant.

My knock is purely that Reid has been so good at finding RBs in the mid rounds.

That said, if he loves one enough to sign off on taking him early, then he’s probably a ****ing baller.

I’d rather take a good running back than reach for a CB, LB, etc

frozenchief 04-23-2020 10:29 PM

Hhhhmmmm, let’s look at, oh, I don’t know, actual data, and see why in 2020, you shouldn’t draft an RB in the first round of the draft:

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-are-nfl...018-nfl-season

Hey, look, you know what we see? If you take out information about the identity of the running back, IT DOESN”T MATTER. Why? Because the O line is far more important to the running game than the running back.

How about this one: RB performance is not as stable as QB and WR:

https://www.kaggle.com/c/nfl-big-dat...cussion/112044

Yeah, but we need an RB that can CATCH THE BALL, just like Kareem Hunt! Actually, that doesn’t work so well, either:

https://theathletic.com/1143546/2019...ake-any-sense/

Why? Well, maybe because in the NFL today, you THROW to win. You don’t establish the pass with the running game. you don’t need a good play action to sell the pass. No, you throw to win:

https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/...be-overdrafted

So, no. I’m not happy. We wasted an opportunity. What are we going to do in 3 or 4 years? Keep him? Try to trade him? We need a CB and we need LBs and we need good OL guys.

You want to improve the running game? Draft an offensive line. A good O line gets you a much better running game and protects your MVP QB.

What a damn waste of a pick.

Pitt Gorilla 04-23-2020 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14928785)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Holy offense Bat Man. I love Clyde Edwards-Helaire. He is best Rb in the draft. Watkins and Hill deep. Kelce in the middle. And Edwards-Helaire underneath. Good Luck defenses.</p>&mdash; Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) <a href="https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1253537387088658432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Very much this.

frozenchief 04-23-2020 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14928782)
Frozenchief is acting like we just picked Mitchell Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes

Because we did.

TwistedChief 04-23-2020 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14928785)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Holy offense Bat Man. I love Clyde Edwards-Helaire. He is best Rb in the draft. Watkins and Hill deep. Kelce in the middle. And Edwards-Helaire underneath. Good Luck defenses.</p>&mdash; Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) <a href="https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1253537387088658432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don’t know. Chris Simms vs JakeF.

This could get interesting.

Ebolapox 04-23-2020 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928809)
Because we did.

ok boomer?

tatorhog 04-23-2020 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 14928617)
Andy Reid's new Brian Westbrook

I thought he moved like a young Shady. But either way, he’s that shifty back Andy seems to have always had during his Philly years.

TwistedChief 04-23-2020 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928809)
Because we did.

Did a polar bear eat your dog today or something, dude?

KC_Connection 04-23-2020 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928660)
Every time Derrick Henry got the ball, he COST Tennessee points.

RBs do NOT add value. Even if RBs can catch passes, they do not add value.

**** me with a sandpaper dildo. This was a bad ****ing decision. KC should have drafted best available LB or CB or IOL. And no, I don’t care how many yards this guy runs for over the next few years. This is a bad ****ing draft choice and if you think otherwise, you don’t understand numbers and probability.

LMAO at this freak out

frozenchief 04-23-2020 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 14928812)
ok boomer?

Little bit younger but I don’t give a ****.

The evidence is clear: RBs don’t merit the attention that they did 30 years ago. You no longer need a first round RB. Handing the ball to an RB generally COSTS a team points. You can either look at the data and agree or you can make snide comments, but the fact is, Veach wasted this pick.

If you disagree, point to a RB in the last 15 years that had a positive Extra Points Added per carry. We would have been better off drafting a WR or another TE.

KC_Connection 04-23-2020 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14928720)
Anyone that is bitching is weird to me, running game was our 1 offensive weakness.

Has been since Hunt idiotically got himself kicked off the team. Now we have our pass catching back again.

Time to average 40 points a game.

Mecca 04-23-2020 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928803)
Hhhhmmmm, let’s look at, oh, I don’t know, actual data, and see why in 2020, you shouldn’t draft an RB in the first round of the draft:

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-are-nfl...018-nfl-season

Hey, look, you know what we see? If you take out information about the identity of the running back, IT DOESN”T MATTER. Why? Because the O line is far more important to the running game than the running back.

How about this one: RB performance is not as stable as QB and WR:

https://www.kaggle.com/c/nfl-big-dat...cussion/112044

Yeah, but we need an RB that can CATCH THE BALL, just like Kareem Hunt! Actually, that doesn’t work so well, either:

https://theathletic.com/1143546/2019...ake-any-sense/

Why? Well, maybe because in the NFL today, you THROW to win. You don’t establish the pass with the running game. you don’t need a good play action to sell the pass. No, you throw to win:

https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/...be-overdrafted

So, no. I’m not happy. We wasted an opportunity. What are we going to do in 3 or 4 years? Keep him? Try to trade him? We need a CB and we need LBs and we need good OL guys.

You want to improve the running game? Draft an offensive line. A good O line gets you a much better running game and protects your MVP QB.

What a damn waste of a pick.

Yea let's reach on an OL the 1 1st round interior guy was gone, like 7 OTs got picked, yea reach fool.

PAChiefsGuy 04-23-2020 10:35 PM

This dude better be a beast. We already have Williams.

OskaloosaChief 04-23-2020 10:35 PM

Barry Sanders was only 5'8". I'm not saying he's Barry Sanders, but watch some tape and with a little imagination......

frozenchief 04-23-2020 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14928818)
Did a polar bear eat your dog today or something, dude?

Rep for the polar bear joke. I undoubtedly deserve it.

I realize it ultimately is just a game. And I realize we won the SB just a couple of months ago. But I see many, many times where what one expects to happen is not what really happens. and if Veach had been paying attention to what really happens, he would not have chosen an RB with any draft choice and its super frustrating to see that pick just wasted.

Skyy God 04-23-2020 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14928810)
I don’t know. Chris Simms vs JakeF.

This could get interesting.

I know who I got!!

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2020 10:37 PM

Mecole wants Swift because their both from Georgia

frozenchief 04-23-2020 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14928838)
Yea let's reach on an OL the 1 1st round interior guy was gone, like 7 OTs got picked, yea reach fool.

You miss the point. I said that OL will be a better choice if you want to improve the run game. Sol if there isn’t an OL that’s worthy of a 1st round pick, choose a CB or an LB or an edge rusher or another position we need. Fine. Just don’t waste a first round pick on an RB.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 04-23-2020 10:38 PM

Mecole tweeted that he couldn't believe D'Andre wasn't picked at all in the first round, not that he was complaining about who the Chiefs drafted.

Georgia boy all the way through.




Quote:

Originally Posted by PurpleRiders51 (Post 14928794)
Mecole doesn't seem happy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you telling me out of 32 picks D’ANDRE SWIFT WAS NOT SELECTED 🤦🏾*♂️</p>&mdash; Mecole Hardman Jr. (@MecoleHardman4) <a href="https://twitter.com/MecoleHardman4/status/1253540372426326016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2020 10:38 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For everybody who think they know it all, I have no problem with the Chiefs pick! I trust Veach and Coach Reid in their decision process! So save all that extra stuff for some else</p>&mdash; Mecole Hardman Jr. (@MecoleHardman4) <a href="https://twitter.com/MecoleHardman4/status/1253543557366939649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

carcosa 04-23-2020 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928611)
What the ever loving ****? A RB in the first round? You’ve got to be ****ing kidding me! There is no reason to take an RB in the first round. Jesus, an interior OL would have been a better choice than this shit. What the ever-lasting **** was Veach thinking? Can he not see what’s going on with the NFL?

Giant Waste of a draft choice.

shut up baby

carcosa 04-23-2020 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928848)
Rep for the polar bear joke. I undoubtedly deserve it.

I realize it ultimately is just a game. And I realize we won the SB just a couple of months ago. But I see many, many times where what one expects to happen is not what really happens. and if Veach had been paying attention to what really happens, he would not have chosen an RB with any draft choice and its super frustrating to see that pick just wasted.

lol

Mecca 04-23-2020 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928855)
You miss the point. I said that OL will be a better choice if you want to improve the run game. Sol if there isn’t an OL that’s worthy of a 1st round pick, choose a CB or an LB or an edge rusher or another position we need. Fine. Just don’t waste a first round pick on an RB.

Did you miss the big CB and WR run? Safety was about the only other real option.

carcosa 04-23-2020 10:40 PM

love too have a complete meltdown because the team that just won a super bowl took their BPA at 32

MahiMike 04-23-2020 10:40 PM

This is how you do it. Pick your choice of a position that hasn't been picked yet. Get the best player at the position. It's how I end up with kelce every year in fantasy.

TwistedChief 04-23-2020 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928826)
Little bit younger but I don’t give a ****.

The evidence is clear: RBs don’t merit the attention that they did 30 years ago. You no longer need a first round RB. Handing the ball to an RB generally COSTS a team points. You can either look at the data and agree or you can make snide comments, but the fact is, Veach wasted this pick.

If you disagree, point to a RB in the last 15 years that had a positive Extra Points Added per carry. We would have been better off drafting a WR or another TE.

And before Patrick Mahomes, Big 12 QBs never amounted to anything in the NFL. Get outside of the box and trust the guy who just brought us a SB.

Kman34 04-23-2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928611)
What the ever loving ****? A RB in the first round? You’ve got to be ****ing kidding me! There is no reason to take an RB in the first round. Jesus, an interior OL would have been a better choice than this shit. What the ever-lasting **** was Veach thinking? Can he not see what’s going on with the NFL?

Giant Waste of a draft choice.

Boo Hoo.. The Chiefs will never make the Super Bowl.. Andy and Veach don’t know what they are doing... Andy is a horrible football coach... Boo Hoo..


JFC.. He’s a great player who will make us even greater on offense...

frozenchief 04-23-2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14928866)
Did you miss the big CB and WR run? Safety was about the only other real option.

Then take a safety. I don’t care. The evidence over the past decade plus shows that RBs COST points.

I’m a numbers/data/analytics guy. I read what computer crunching data means for current NFL games means. And they mean that you don’t take an RB in the first round.

Here’s Geoff Schwartz talking about why it is ludicrous to pay for an elite RB in today’s NFL:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/4/...ound-box-count

This was just a giant waste.

BossChief 04-23-2020 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14928696)
Reading up on him, he apparently has a good rating for breaking tackles. That matches the profile of what Andy likes.

Excellent contact balance.

Bienemy will get him to improve his pass blocking and this kids gonna be a STUD. Could have a per carry average similar to Charles.
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14928720)
Anyone that is bitching is weird to me, running game was our 1 offensive weakness.

The people bitching haven’t seen this kid play.
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14928866)
Did you miss the big CB and WR run? Safety was about the only other real option.

McKinney would be nice to have but look at the recent investment at safety. A 2 on Juan and a huge contract for Landlord.

Glyde Helaire is going to be fun to watch in this offense.

carcosa 04-23-2020 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 14928888)
Then take a safety. I don’t care. The evidence over the past decade plus shows that RBs COST points.

I’m a numbers/data/analytics guy. I read what computer crunching data means for current NFL games means. And they mean that you don’t take an RB in the first round.

Here’s Geoff Schwartz talking about why it is ludicrous to pay for an elite RB in today’s NFL:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/4/...ound-box-count

This was just a giant waste.

calm down buddy


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