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Coogs 08-09-2021 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15776007)
It seems like the early returns on Lucas Niang are fairly underwhelming. Hopefully it’s something that can be improved through coaching/ additional experience.
Say what?

I get you would like to see the new offensive line win every battle at every position. But it's good to have the defensive line kicking ass from time to time as well. Competition makes the team better.

Dante84 08-09-2021 09:50 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trey Smith vs Wharton <a href="https://t.co/NPw5ha6hY4">pic.twitter.com/NPw5ha6hY4</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424759765683646467?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 09:51 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Noah Gray with a helluva catch during 7-on-7 with the twos</p>&mdash; Tucker D. Franklin (@tuckerdfranklin) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin/status/1424759810982035458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 09:52 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Devon Key is a solid mainstay on the second team during 7-on-7, essentially playing Mathieu’s position.</p>&mdash; Tucker D. Franklin (@tuckerdfranklin) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin/status/1424760328118804484?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 09:53 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CJ95’s re-worked body to play in the edge has been evident everyday if camp.<br><br>His ankle flexion turning up the arc after he softens the corner has been phenomenal for a 290+lb player. <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/U0rDJmnnpz">pic.twitter.com/U0rDJmnnpz</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@ChiefinCarolina) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefinCarolina/status/1424760660316073990?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 09:54 AM
Trying to imagine who Jones is going to look like coming from the edge if he has a big season. Prime Suggs? A bigger Reggie White?

saphojunkie 08-09-2021 09:54 AM
When Orlando Brown is the biggest concern on the starting line, I think we are in a good spot.

Seems like Brown is getting beat around the corner the most often. I wonder if a chip block to force the defender back inside doesn't greatly help.

Dante84 08-09-2021 09:54 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Starting from the 1-yard line in this team period, Joe Thuney just opened a nice hole for Clyde Edwards-Helaire.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1424760977053167617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 09:57 AM
Brown-Thuney-Humphrey do a great job on this rep.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/QgXJpMg0RV">pic.twitter.com/QgXJpMg0RV</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424761313037799430?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 09:59 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Offense picking it up now in the latter part of practice in 11x11. Mahomes throwing dimes to Robinson and Hardman on crossing routes in tight coverage. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Tommy Rezac (@TommyKFEQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/TommyKFEQ/status/1424761790412505089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:01 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Beautiful no look pass from Mahomes to Hardman. A bright spot for a day where Andy Reid will not be too pleased with his offense’s play on the field. Beat guys have told me this is by far the worst day for the offense in camp.</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1424762597904113666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:01 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes no look to Mecole Hardman. Too easy. <a href="https://t.co/8dVHRWV6WU">pic.twitter.com/8dVHRWV6WU</a></p>&mdash; KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCSportsNetwork/status/1424762564853084161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:02 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Demarcus Robinson comes down with a big catch during this team session. <a href="https://t.co/O7mbjbAppn">pic.twitter.com/O7mbjbAppn</a></p>&mdash; Tucker D. Franklin (@tuckerdfranklin) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin/status/1424762519525134340?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MahomesMagic 08-09-2021 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776055)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Beautiful no look pass from Mahomes to Hardman. A bright spot for a day where Andy Reid will not be too pleased with his offense’s play on the field. Beat guys have told me this is by far the worst day for the offense in camp.</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1424762597904113666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Well, I like to see our defense do something. Of course that's the nature of this is someone KC has to lose...

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:03 AM
Jesus Christ. This will never get old. We are so blessed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes ���� <a href="https://t.co/bSzpMlgiDc">pic.twitter.com/bSzpMlgiDc</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424762951316160515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:04 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On cue, another play in the backfield from Saunders. <a href="https://t.co/uZu5e86xhI">https://t.co/uZu5e86xhI</a></p>&mdash; Sam McDowell (@SamMcDowell11) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11/status/1424763203377041408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:04 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones is not being blocked today by anyone <a href="https://t.co/pTRnONJ2VP">pic.twitter.com/pTRnONJ2VP</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424763195449909259?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:07 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today has been a really good practice for the defense</p>&mdash; Tucker D. Franklin (@tuckerdfranklin) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin/status/1424763558009659394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:08 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Juan Thornhill continues to run with the the twos a lot. In related news, I continue to be sad a lot.</p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1424764367736909835?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 08-09-2021 10:08 AM
DAT NO LOOK

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes ���� <a href="https://t.co/bSzpMlgiDc">pic.twitter.com/bSzpMlgiDc</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424762951316160515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:11 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joshua Kaindoh, who was in the medical tent, is walking off the practice fields.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1424765097252061186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titty Meat 08-09-2021 10:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15776038)
When Orlando Brown is the biggest concern on the starting line, I think we are in a good spot.

Seems like Brown is getting beat around the corner the most often. I wonder if a chip block to force the defender back inside doesn't greatly help.

Your left tackle is the biggest concern is a good thing?

staylor26 08-09-2021 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15776099)
Your left tackle is the biggest concern is a good thing?
I don’t even understand where all this concern is coming from.

The guy got beat like the first day in pads by Chris Jones. So what? This place goes full reerun during camp.

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:18 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cornell Powell <a href="https://t.co/Zx3Bsejfzq">pic.twitter.com/Zx3Bsejfzq</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424766935829557253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:19 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My guy <a href="https://twitter.com/tommy_townsend?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tommy_townsend</a> dropping bombs. It doesn’t get better than this. <a href="https://t.co/6PJyfhD0oO">pic.twitter.com/6PJyfhD0oO</a></p>&mdash; Tucker D. Franklin (@tuckerdfranklin) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin/status/1424766066379698179?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 08-09-2021 10:23 AM
It's literally only one trait that seems to give Brown trouble, and that's speed around the outside. Bull rushes, inside, double moves he seems to have taken care of.

That's something they can work on, or plan around. At this point I'm not too worried.

ToxSocks 08-09-2021 10:23 AM
I'll be concerned with Brown if he's getting consistently beaten when the real bullets fly.

I wouldn't put too much stock in 1v1's since the OL is at a serious disadvantage there. It's not indicative of real football results.

I'd also note that it looks like they're having Brown work on handling those speed rushes to the outside, as that's what seemingly every DL has attacked him with. Suffice to say, the Chiefs probably aren't worried about his ability to handle a bullrush or anything to the inside, thus in practice they're throwing outside speed rushes at him.

With that said, it's still nice to see him win reps. He's been the least hyped starting lineman this camp.

ToxSocks 08-09-2021 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776121)
It's literally only one trait that seems to give Brown trouble, and that's speed around the outside. Bull rushes, inside, double moves he seems to have taken care of.

That's something they can work on, or plan around. At this point I'm not too worried.
Heh, beat me to it. But yes, it looks like the Chiefs are throwing outside speed rushes at him because, well...it's what he needs to work on.

O.city 08-09-2021 10:27 AM
For one group to be successful the other has to be beaten in training camp.

It's been pretty even. Thats good news for the defense. I'm excited.

I'm not "worried" about the OL at this point. It was always gonna take time.

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776121)
It's literally only one trait that seems to give Brown trouble, and that's speed around the outside. Bull rushes, inside, double moves he seems to have taken care of.

That's something they can work on, or plan around. At this point I'm not too worried.
Yeah, I’m sure Reid will have a plan for it.

Remember a few years back when Dee Ford kept abusing Andre Smith with the Cardinals? It was the same thing over and over and over.

Reid won’t let that happen.

Titty Meat 08-09-2021 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15776108)
I don’t even understand where all this concern is coming from.

The guy got beat like the first day in pads by Chris Jones. So what? This place goes full reerun during camp.
I put 0 stock into any camp reports I'm not concerned about Beown at all. I just thought it was a puzzling statement as LT is the most important position on the line.

ToxSocks 08-09-2021 10:32 AM
On some of those speed rushes where it LOOKS like Brown lost quickly, look again. In a real football situation, Brown forced that guy around, keeping the pocket clean.

Some of those reps there, the defender actually woulda ran himself out of the play.

It may look bad in a 1v1, but in actual football, Brown is likely keeping that guy away long enough for Mahomes to make a play.

ChiefBlueCFC 08-09-2021 10:33 AM
Glad to hear the defense winning some days and not just being railroaded by the offense

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15776140)
I put 0 stock into any camp reports I'm not concerned about Beown at all. I just thought it was a puzzling statement as LT is the most important position on the line.
I won’t speak for him, but I think his intention was that if Orlando Brown Jr is our worst starting O lineman then we’re in pretty good shape.

Since Brown is at least somewhat proven, then that means those other guys are really performing well.

That’s how I read it at least.

staylor26 08-09-2021 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15776147)
On some of those speed rushes where it LOOKS like Brown lost quickly, look again. In a real football situation, Brown forced that guy around, keeping the pocket clean.

Some of those reps there, the defender actually woulda ran himself out of the play.

It may look bad in a 1v1, but in actual football, Brown is likely keeping that guy away long enough for Mahomes to make a play.
Exactly. Most of those reps from today would absolutely be considered wins on game day.

InChiefsHeaven 08-09-2021 10:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15776147)
On some of those speed rushes where it LOOKS like Brown lost quickly, look again. In a real football situation, Brown forced that guy around, keeping the pocket clean.

Some of those reps there, the defender actually woulda ran himself out of the play.

It may look bad in a 1v1, but in actual football, Brown is likely keeping that guy away long enough for Mahomes to make a play.
That was my thought. He's CONSISTENTLY getting beat...which could mean he's actually doing it right and we can't tell cuz it's one on one, and shitty cell phone video with no depth perception.

MahomesMagic 08-09-2021 10:41 AM
With a mobile QB like Mahomes it looks like a change in philosophy on the OL.

Don't get beat right in front (guard-center-guard) and tackles just need to not get him blasted right away.

If someone has to take a long arc to Mahomes around Orlando Brown it's too easy for Mahomes to step up up or around and fire.

Deberg_1990 08-09-2021 10:42 AM
Not sure where to put this.

Sign her Veach!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Give the Dodgers ballgirl the absolute MAX. <br><br>20 years, 500 million. **** it. <a href="https://t.co/K7HuH8p6qK">pic.twitter.com/K7HuH8p6qK</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1424506780625907714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kiimo 08-09-2021 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776110)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cornell Powell <a href="https://t.co/Zx3Bsejfzq">pic.twitter.com/Zx3Bsejfzq</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424766935829557253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


I'm glad Kemp is blowing up camp because I have to be honest everything from Powell looks...too slow

ThyKingdomCome15 08-09-2021 11:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15769150)
I hope Devon Key balls out in the preseason games.
That kid is sharp as a tack. He said he joined KC because Andy Reid called him after they ran out of picks. That made an impression on him.

RealSNR 08-09-2021 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15753475)
Quick! I must know the camp scrapdick dude who's going to make everybody's projected 53 man roster only to end up cut before Week 1!

Random white WR dude from a couple years ago was a particularly good one! What is it this year? Undrafted guard who's going to replace Wylie? Small midget LB who makes a lot of plays against 3rd string? One of the old WR barnacles who manages to survive from year to year by attaching himself to the hull on the practice squad?

I can't wait!!!!
Are there any guys like that this year? I can't think of any on-the-bubble guys that everybody thinks will make the roster.

A lot of young guys are impressing, but they can't all make the roster. There's going to be a surprise cut or two that has people going, "whhaaaaaat?" It's just math.

It honestly just might be somebody like Deandre Baker. Not trying to pick on or single him out specifically, but it's going to be somebody like him.

Hammock Parties 08-09-2021 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15776195)
I'm glad Kemp is blowing up camp because I have to be honest everything from Powell looks...too slow
That get off was pathetic.

staylor26 08-09-2021 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15776195)
I'm glad Kemp is blowing up camp because I have to be honest everything from Powell looks...too slow
He had one of the best MPH readings at the Senior Bowl. He’s not a burner, but his speed is adequate. I’m sure he’s not playing as fast because of the mental aspect right now though.

Kiimo 08-09-2021 11:16 AM
Hope that's right, his routes just look like he's gonna have issues with separation.


Then again I thought the same thing about receivers in the past who surprise me

Dante84 08-09-2021 11:40 AM
Definitely a contested catch/possession guy as opposed to an instant separation guy

ThaVirus 08-09-2021 11:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776018)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thuney vs Reed <a href="https://t.co/nSDXLtQunT">pic.twitter.com/nSDXLtQunT</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424758736250413056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Oh, ****. Look at him chop those feet. Beautiful technique.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776046)
Brown-Thuney-Humphrey do a great job on this rep.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/QgXJpMg0RV">pic.twitter.com/QgXJpMg0RV</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424761313037799430?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
He isn't looking great in 1-on-1 pass blocking drills, but those are tough for offensive linemen. Let the big fella get downhill and rough some of the other guys up. After getting walloped a few times I'm guessing they'll have a little less gas to give him trouble off the edge.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776110)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cornell Powell <a href="https://t.co/Zx3Bsejfzq">pic.twitter.com/Zx3Bsejfzq</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1424766935829557253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Took him forever to come out of that break. Not a great rep.

comochiefsfan 08-09-2021 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15776279)
Took him forever to come out of that break. Not a great rep.
It's going to be hard for him to create separation with his lack of speed.

He needs to be really crisp on his routes in order to get open. Looks like he has some serious work ahead.

RunKC 08-09-2021 11:53 AM
Joe Thuney is such a calming player. He’s just like Mitch. Does everything really well and is such technically sound that he doesn’t lose often.

Humphrey is very similar as well.

Great to see our interior be upgraded to such a level. It’s going to help Patrick out so much

Hammock Parties 08-09-2021 11:57 AM
I think the Chiefs are going to absolutely pile up the rushing yards running between C-LG.

This will be really good for the play action boots the other way.

Fun year is coming for Reid.

ToxSocks 08-09-2021 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15776219)
Hope that's right, his routes just look like he's gonna have issues with separation.


Then again I thought the same thing about receivers in the past who surprise me
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776272)
Definitely a contested catch/possession guy as opposed to an instant separation guy
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15776279)
Oh, ****. Look at him chop those feet. Beautiful technique.



He isn't looking great in 1-on-1 pass blocking drills, but those are tough for offensive linemen. Let the big fella get downhill and rough some of the other guys up. After getting walloped a few times I'm guessing they'll have a little less gas to give him trouble off the edge.



Took him forever to come out of that break. Not a great rep.
Quote:
Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15776294)
It's going to be hard for him to create separation with his lack of speed.

He needs to be really crisp on his routes in order to get open. Looks like he has some serious work ahead.
I'm not into "Jump ball" receivers as ive stated many times.

However, Powell DOES do a great job of creating separation at the point of the catch. He seems to have a knack for it.

I don't think he's pigeon holed into "jump ball guy" per se, but i do think he's a guy that will have to run "strong" routes if that makes any sense. Bodying up a guy to gain leverage. Running through bump n run coverage, or just plain running through a guy who's trying to squeeze him, and then creating the separation at the point of the catch.

He's got those seemingly Stretch Armstrong arms.

Kinda reminds me of Chris Chambers in that way. Chris Chambers might be a good pro comp, i'll have to look at that.

staylor26 08-09-2021 11:59 AM
Powell’s speed is fine.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are fastest max speeds from Day 2 of Reese’s Senior Bowl practice (7-on-7’s, team, and WR/DB 1-on-1’s) per our partners at <a href="https://twitter.com/SlantsAI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SlantsAI</a>. <br><br>Cornell Powell - 20.47 mph<br>Dez Fitzpatrick - 19.92 mph<br>Demetric Felton - 19.61 mph<br>Thomas Graham Jr. - 19.49 mph<br>Khalil Herbert - 19.43 mph <a href="https://t.co/shtylau1ba">pic.twitter.com/shtylau1ba</a></p>&mdash; Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1355375124761993217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 08-09-2021 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15776309)
I'm not into "Jump ball" receivers as ive stated many times.

However, Powell DOES do a great job of creating separation at the point of the catch. He seems to have a knack for it.

I don't think he's pigeon holed into "jump ball guy" per se, but i do think he's a guy that will have to run "strong" routes if that makes any sense. Bodying up a guy to gain leverage. Running through bump n run coverage, or just plain running through a guy who's trying to squeeze him, and then creating the separation at the point of the catch.

He's got those seemingly Stretch Armstrong arms.

Kinda reminds me of Chris Chambers in that way. Chris Chambers might be a good pro comp, i'll have to look at that.
There is a reason he was described as our “post up WR” to replace Watkins by the scouts.

Hammock Parties 08-09-2021 12:08 PM
It's not speed with Powell, it's quickness.

Kman34 08-09-2021 12:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15776340)
It's not speed with Powell, it's quickness.
Not everyone is Tyreek Hill.. We’ve been spoiled.. Travis gets open easy enough.. Powell will be fine once he learns the playbook and gets comfortable..

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 12:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15776307)
I think the Chiefs are going to absolutely pile up the rushing yards running between C-LG.

This will be really good for the play action boots the other way.

Fun year is coming for Reid.
C-RG too. Smith appears to be a mauler.

O.city 08-09-2021 12:19 PM
Separation is more important in today's NFL for a WR.

Perfecting route running will help him. Also, expectations for him need to be in line with him as a player. He's not likely gonna be a #1 WR ever, maybe a mid #2 or good #3.

And that's ok.

ThaVirus 08-09-2021 12:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 15776358)
Not everyone is Tyreek Hill.. We’ve been spoiled.. Travis gets open easy enough.. Powell will be fine once he learns the playbook and gets comfortable..
Kelce is incredibly quick out of his breaks plus he's one of the best route runners in the league.

I jizz every time I see this one:

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch...3a_480x256.gif

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15776371)
Kelce is incredibly quick out of his breaks plus he's one of the best route runners in the league.

I jizz every time I see this one:

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch...3a_480x256.gif
I also am erect

InspectorVol 08-09-2021 12:27 PM
Vol fan here checking in on Trey Smith. Don’t really see anything about him. How is he doing? I hope well as I think he has the potential to be a 10 yr guard in the league.

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by InspectorVol (Post 15776387)
Vol fan here checking in on Trey Smith. Don’t really see anything about him. How is he doing? I hope well as I think he has the potential to be a 10 yr guard in the league.
We all have boners

ToxSocks 08-09-2021 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by InspectorVol (Post 15776387)
Vol fan here checking in on Trey Smith. Don’t really see anything about him.
Haven't seen anything about him? HAHAHA

Dude is the toast of the town right now. There hasn't been a day in which people aren't fawning over him.

We've been thrilled with him since the day he was drafted, from his film room videos all the way to his camp 1v1's etc.

Dude pretty much took the RG spot back in minicamp and hasnt looked back.

Marcellus 08-09-2021 12:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by InspectorVol (Post 15776387)
Vol fan here checking in on Trey Smith. Don’t really see anything about him. How is he doing? I hope well as I think he has the potential to be a 10 yr guard in the league.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15775984)
Knew this was coming...


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;The amount of hype coming out of <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> training camp for rookie OG Trey Smith is huge. There&#39;s a small pocket of the Internet--all those terrific Chiefs blogs--where the rookie offensive guard is picking up Paul Bunyan level status.&quot;-<a href="https://twitter.com/PSchrags?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PSchrags</a><a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadPride</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadAddict?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadAddict</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZBYfa0zAA3">pic.twitter.com/ZBYfa0zAA3</a></p>&mdash; GMFB (@gmfb) <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/1424704754865909763?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
^^

BigRedChief 08-09-2021 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15776108)
I don’t even understand where all this concern is coming from.

The guy got beat like the first day in pads by Chris Jones. So what? This place goes full reerun during camp.
No shit. Jones is kicking everyone's ass. He may be the DPOY at this rate of kicking ass.

staylor26 08-09-2021 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15776340)
It's not speed with Powell, it's quickness.
He has a above average speed, size, and he’s excellent when the ball is in the air. His body control and ability to adjust to the ball are 2 of his best traits.

You can’t have it all in a 5th round pick.

O.city 08-09-2021 12:57 PM
Best case scenario, he's a nice WR, contributes and plays special teams.

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15776418)
No shit. Jones is kicking everyone's ass. He may be the DPOY at this rate of kicking ass.
Iron sharpens iron. I like it.

I’m hoping blocking lesser DLs feels easy for this OL in a couple weeks.

InspectorVol 08-09-2021 01:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15776398)
^^
Thanks. I’m been a chiefs fan since way back to early early 70’s. Causal fan, not full on like a lot of you guys.

Titty Meat 08-09-2021 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15776462)
Best case scenario, he's a nice WR, contributes and plays special teams.
Likely wont play much this year if history is any indication. I cant think of a WR other than Hill that got significant snaps during the year as a rookie. Wilson played like 2 games at the end of the year and Conley didnt play til he was forced to when Maclin went down.

Dunerdr 08-09-2021 01:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15776489)
Likely wont play much this year if history is any indication. I cant think of a WR other than Hill that got significant snaps during the year as a rookie. Wilson played like 2 games at the end of the year and Conley didnt play til he was forced to when Maclin went down.
Every time i hear someone talking about Rodgers press conference and how guys were treated on the way out i think of Maclin and Dorsey. And wonder if that GB attitude is what got him ran out.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-09-2021 01:17 PM
Even Chris Jones giving Trey Smith some love towards the end

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m told <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> star DL Chris Jones is having the best camp of his career. He’s working at DT and DE, so who has he studied this offseason to prepare for DE? Our conversation on <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/5M3nzPyDDo">pic.twitter.com/5M3nzPyDDo</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1424786003802394630?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 08-09-2021 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15776371)
Kelce is incredibly quick out of his breaks plus he's one of the best route runners in the league.

I jizz every time I see this one:

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch...3a_480x256.gif
I'm just sad every time I see a GIF from last year's playoff run.

Those two games were so fun.

But I guess were just not used to that kind of disappointment.

Probably just the newness of winning playoff games regularly...they can't all result in SBs.

Hammock Parties 08-09-2021 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15776496)
Even Chris Jones giving Trey Smith some love towards the end

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m told <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> star DL Chris Jones is having the best camp of his career. He’s working at DT and DE, so who has he studied this offseason to prepare for DE? Our conversation on <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/5M3nzPyDDo">pic.twitter.com/5M3nzPyDDo</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1424786003802394630?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
God damn. He is really going all out studying guys like Khalil Mack to steal moves from.

This is going to be a special season for CJ.

Easy 6 08-09-2021 01:35 PM
My biggest takeaway thus far, is just how deep and slam full of potential our trenches are now

If they are indeed where games are won or lost, we’ll come damn close to running the table

The sheer amount of positive news coming out of this camp is shocking

This team has the gleam, boys

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15776525)
My biggest takeaway thus far, is just how deep and slam full of potential our trenches are now

If they are indeed where games are won or lost, we’ll come damn close to running the table

The sheer amount of positive news coming out of this camp is shocking

This team has the gleam, boys
Mahomes will have time to throw.

We will have an effective running game again.

Our pass rush will be better than expected (maybe upper third).

We’ll be around average against the run.

RustShack 08-09-2021 01:48 PM
The Chiefs aren’t going to lose a game ever again.

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15776549)
The Chiefs aren’t going to lose a game ever again.
The minimum expectation

BossChief 08-09-2021 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776037)
Trying to imagine who Jones is going to look like coming from the edge if he has a big season. Prime Suggs? A bigger Reggie White?
Bruce smith

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15776037)
Trying to imagine who Jones is going to look like coming from the edge if he has a big season. Prime Suggs? A bigger Reggie White?
A more explosive Richard Seymour?

RealSNR 08-09-2021 01:57 PM
If Chris Jones is elite at DE like he likely could be, do we NEED a DE high in the draft next year?

If the draft didn’t fall our way, I don’t think we necessarily have to go after any position

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-09-2021 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15776565)
If Chris Jones is elite at DE like he likely could be, do we NEED a DE high in the draft next year?

If the draft didn’t fall our way, I don’t think we necessarily have to go after any position
DT because Reed is only here for a year and Nnadi is a free agent


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