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suzzer99 01-26-2024 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17363479)
Or the guys catch Allen’s Pick 6 ball on that same drive. Buffalo had some pretty fortunate bounces in that game despite their own mistakes on dropped balls, missed FG, missed TD pass, etc.

Sneed was going to house that if McDuffie didn't deflect it.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-26-2024 01:37 AM

Looks like Ravens are getting Mark Andrews back. That's a big one.

BossChief 01-26-2024 01:41 AM

**** Mark Andrews.

New World Order 01-26-2024 01:44 AM

Guys, Prisco picked us to win.

This is not good

carcosa 01-26-2024 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17363491)
Guys, Prisco picked us to win.

This is not good

Even a blind squirrel nuts twice a.day!

New World Order 01-26-2024 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17363492)
Even a blind squirrel nuts twice a.day!

You're right

My faith is restored!!!

carcosa 01-26-2024 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17363493)
You're right

My faith is restored!!!

BELIEF IN CHIEF!!!!

jerryaldini 01-26-2024 02:03 AM

Injuries
For the second day in a row, running back Isiah Pacheco won't practice for the Chiefs. Reid said the sophomore man did participate in the team's walkthrough, however. This is more of a rest situation than anything else, as Pacheco indicated on Wednesday that he plans to play this weekend.

The biggest positive news for Kansas City is that safety Mike Edwards is expected to return to practice on Thursday.
While it's unclear whether Edwards will clear protocol in time to play this weekend, he appears to be progressing well. Reid said the Chiefs will exercise caution with his practice plan.

Reid said his veteran linebacker is battling some neck stiffness and suffered a setback in the team's last playoff game. Gay is trending in a solid direction for Sunday but if he can't play, Reid is satisfied with Drue Tranquill's ability to offset some of the production lost.

Coochie liquor 01-26-2024 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17362803)
Only on my micropeniss does the Bully lose and continue to be the Bully. I seriously got you guys losing and still proclaiming yourselves Champions.

Your desperation knows no bounds! You want so badly for your team to be what the Chiefs have built. But the biggest difference in the teams is your quarterback will never be in the same stratosphere as Mahomes… regardless of how this season ends for you. You should check out how many quarterbacks that never won a SB on their rookie contract, have never won a SB. Maybe then you’ll have a better understanding of what you’re up against (but I doubt it because you’re a delusional, pillow biter. Get your 1000 posts in now, cuz come Sunday evening you’re probably gonna have a gun to your own head!

RollChiefsRoll 01-26-2024 06:35 AM

Man we ****ing NEED Pop to be a full go on Sunday.

Chris Meck 01-26-2024 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17363308)
Im not gonna sit here and let you insult the majority of this board


you didnt bother to read or understand the points made in any of those threads (GDT is not the place to declare "game over or season over"_ even though its been explained to you numerous times yet you pretend not to get that)


youre a dishonest person. You sit here and insult us (the actual majority) by saying the majority gave up on this team. which is a LIE.... yet when you had the opportunity a month ago to speak up, you were silent..and actually complained that people were calling those reeruns out


just pipe down with the other losers

This isn't particularly accurate or fair.

The Christmas Raiders game was pretty discouraging, and even I was pretty down on KC's chances to get it together.

But it turns out, it was a turning point, and they've been much better since. And while I don't think anyone is particularly SUPREMELY CONFIDENT, I think most will take Mahomes + a great defense in any single game.

That's not the same thing as the GDT shitweasels, who just cannot wait to go full blame-game at the first opportunity.

And I'm with you, those posters ruin everything for those of us who would like to follow the game and chat football in real time.

But let's rein it in a little bit here.

digger 01-26-2024 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17363545)
This isn't particularly accurate or fair.

The Christmas Raiders game was pretty discouraging, and even I was pretty down on KC's chances to get it together.

But it turns out, it was a turning point, and they've been much better since. And while I don't think anyone is particularly SUPREMELY CONFIDENT, I think most will take Mahomes + a great defense in any single game.

That's not the same thing as the GDT shitweasels, who just cannot wait to go full blame-game at the first opportunity.

And I'm with you, those posters ruin everything for those of us who would like to follow the game and chat football in real time.

But let's rein it in a little bit here.

*Discord Plug goes here*

Iowanian 01-26-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17363488)
Looks like Ravens are getting Mark Andrews back. That's a big one.

Mark Andrews probably let’s Vance McMahon poop on his head

New World Order 01-26-2024 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17363494)
BELIEF IN CHIEF!!!!

I BELIEF!

BELIEF IN CHIEF! BELIEF IN CHIEF! BELIEF IN CHIEF!

Bearcat 01-26-2024 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17363545)

That's not the same thing as the GDT shitweasels, who just cannot wait to go full blame-game at the first opportunity.

And I'm with you, those posters ruin everything for those of us who would like to follow the game and chat football in real time.

But let's rein it in a little bit here.

I've rarely had anyone on ignore through the years, but it works wonders for the GDT since people don't get quoted much... and it's funny/sad because something bad will happen and you'll see blocks of "this user is on your ignore list" when all the chicken littles show up at the same time to tell people it's all Veach's fault someone dropped a pass and how the Chiefs aren't making the playoffs because they're down by 3 in the first quarter of a week 6 game.


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Originally Posted by digger (Post 17363549)
*Discord Plug goes here*

With all due respect, that's also the place people go when they've been booted from a GDT and then get butthurt about it for 4 years, so it doesn't feel like it would be much better?

digger 01-26-2024 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17363573)

With all due respect, that's also the place people go when they've been booted from a GDT and then get butthurt about it for 4 years, so it doesn't feel like it would be much better?

Options options... ;)

TwistedChief 01-26-2024 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17363491)
Guys, Prisco picked us to win.

This is not good

So did Florio.

Lucky for us they might be the only two.

duncan_idaho 01-26-2024 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17363587)
So did Florio.

Lucky for us they might be the only two.


Florio picked them because they were his preseason pick. He picked them last week, too.

Seemed like it was grudging/he doesn’t really believe it, though.

Bearcat 01-26-2024 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by digger (Post 17363580)
Options options... ;)

True, and besides scrolling after the fact, I never think of it during games to check (I mean, if I wasn't banned after my last comment LMAO).... the two playoff GDTs were night and day.

The Dolphins game was great, even when the Tyreek touchdown happened.... and the Bills game was doom and gloom throughout (granted, I didn’t read much of it in the 2nd half), even when it was obvious the offense was going to have its way with the Bills.

digger 01-26-2024 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17363594)
True, and besides scrolling after the fact, I never think of it during games to check (I mean, if I wasn't banned after my last comment LMAO).... the two playoff GDTs were night and day.

The Dolphins game was great, even when the Tyreek touchdown happened.... and the Bills game was doom and gloom throughout (granted, I didn’t read much of it in the 2nd half), even when it was obvious the offense was going to have its way with the Bills.


You'd have to sign up to get banned ;)

ChiefaRoo 01-26-2024 08:21 AM

People are on tv this morning saying KC cannot compete physically with Baltimore. Seems to me that Baltimore is going to get a lot of personal foul penalties.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-26-2024 08:25 AM

Happy Red Friday folks

And do not forget, they gotta play us. Six years, six years that the AFC team who wants to go to the Super Bowl has to beat Patrick Mahomes.

St. Patty's Fire 01-26-2024 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 17363606)
People are on tv this morning saying KC cannot compete physically with Baltimore. Seems to me that Baltimore is going to get a lot of personal foul penalties.

people don’t realize how physical the chiefs are. they still think we’re the finesse team we were in 2018

duncan_idaho 01-26-2024 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 17363614)
people don’t realize how physical the chiefs are. they still think we’re the finesse team we were in 2018

The ones who are paying attention understand.

ptlyon 01-26-2024 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 17363614)
people don’t realize how physical the chiefs are. they still think we’re the finesse team we were in 2018

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dannybcaitlyn 01-26-2024 08:55 AM

Chris Jones can earn another million by winning this game. He’s going to give that oline hell.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-26-2024 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17363473)
Justin Watson dropped a perfect throw on 3rd down that would have gained 20 yards and a 1st down at the Buffalo 10 yard line. Butker made a very clutch FG into a tough wind from 47 yards (more like a 60 yarder). Watson’s drop made it a tough situation on the kicker. The dropped ball potentially cost them 4 points since they could have scored a TD on that drive.

Hardman obviously had the 7 point fumble mistake. But he also had an earlier fumble that completely wasted a play inside the Buffalo 10 yard line. Pretty much killed the drive. Thankfully Watson recovered this fumble to save 3 points, but maybe they score a TD on this drive if Andy simply does not give the ball to Hardman. Potentially 11 points lost on cutesy trick play BS with Hardman.

Bottom line is they could have easily scored over 40 points in that game. The other room for improvement is the rushing defense. They got pushed around for 3 quarters and it was nowhere near their best game defensively.

But Buffalo had a lot of those “what if” plays as well. So I guess it evens out. Lol

This was by design, didn't want to get beat by Josh's arma and trade FGs for TDs with our offense humming against their beat up D. Josh made two crazy throws and great catches by their WR's for a TD and a first down at the 1 on 3rd and long, or it would have been worse. When Spags needed to tighten, he tightened.

dallaschiefsfan 01-26-2024 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 17363623)
Chris Jones can earn another million by winning this game. He’s going to give that oline hell.

Not to be underestimated.

Bearcat 01-26-2024 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by digger (Post 17363604)
You'd have to sign up to get banned ;)

I was MightyMike for a bit and then vented at BL after seeing him shouting into the void several times and making completely false statements about this place.... and then I logged out and didn't care enough to see if it was responded to or deleted or whatever.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17363488)
Looks like Ravens are getting Mark Andrews back. That's a big one.

Likely is good.

If a rusty Andrews takes snaps from Likely, that's a positive.

Now if Andrews takes snaps from Nelson Agholor and they grind us up with 12 personnel, that's not ideal. But they haven't had those two on the field together a lot and Likely isn't really a plus blocker at this stage of his career so it may not be the time to lean into those packages.

We'll see. If Andrews is a problem, Likely would've been as well. It will be a scheme problem more than a personnel mismatch.

O.city 01-26-2024 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 17363623)
Chris Jones can earn another million by winning this game. He’s going to give that oline hell.

He's been making business decisions all year on run downs and early parts of the game, so hopefully we get full gear Chris this week.

Bearcat 01-26-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17363626)
This was by design, didn't want to get beat by Josh's arma and trade FGs for TDs with our offense humming against their beat up D. Josh made two crazy throws and great catches by their WR's for a TD and a first down at the 1 on 3rd and long, or it would have been worse. When Spags needed to tighten, he tightened.

Yeah, I thought the Bills' game plan was pretty good and really tough to defend.... they used all 50 yards horizontally and basically had an extended running game on both sidelines and up the middle to defend, and still had to respect hero ball and Allen taking off.

And with how they were getting blockers out to help with the quick screens and then using those blockers to rugby push forward... it's tough to defend.

As a defense, you aren't going to simply say you're defending all of that all the time, and it takes time to adjust to their script.

Just like every other "scary" running team ever, you let them run the ball and don't get sucked into it too much.... there's no "establishing the run" and "gotta stop the run"... you just can't let it get out of hand to the point the offense is picking up first downs on 1st and 2nd downs (happened on 2 drives last weekend). You still have to make enough early down stops to force them into passing downs, then defend those without letting Allen run wild.

Let them take 13 plays to march down the field.. it's what all defenses do these days. People get pissed early in games when "they're running right down our throats!" and then they settle for a FG and everything is okay again. Rinse, repeat.

FloridaMan88 01-26-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 17363623)
Chris Jones can earn another million by winning this game. He’s going to give that oline hell.

Excellent… just need a maximum motivated Chris Jones for two more games.

smithandrew051 01-26-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363642)
Likely is good.

If a rusty Andrews takes snaps from Likely, that's a positive.

Now if Andrews takes snaps from Nelson Agholor and they grind us up with 12 personnel, that's not ideal. But they haven't had those two on the field together a lot and Likely isn't really a plus blocker at this stage of his career so it may not be the time to lean into those packages.

We'll see. If Andrews is a problem, Likely would've been as well. It will be a scheme problem more than a personnel mismatch.

Every time I watched Likely play, he made 2-3 big plays at a key moment.

Then I check his stats, and they’re pretty pedestrian. I must have seen every big play he made.

ptlyon 01-26-2024 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17363648)
Excellent… just need a maximum motivated Chris Jones for two more games.

If you can't be motivated playing in the championship game to go to the SB, you're in the wrong profession

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17363650)
Every time I watched Likely play, he made 2-3 big plays at a key moment.

Then I check his stats, and they’re pretty pedestrian. I must have seen every big play he made.

He's super raw.

Nobody remembers Antonio Gates rookie year, but he didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Likey was kinda like that - just very raw but an incredible physical talent. I'd friggen love to have had him here to learn behind Kelce.

When the lights come on for him, he'll make everyone forget about Mark Andrews, IMO. He could be the league's next superstar TE.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17363647)
Yeah, I thought the Bills' game plan was pretty good and really tough to defend.... they used all 50 yards horizontally and basically had an extended running game on both sidelines and up the middle to defend, and still had to respect hero ball and Allen taking off.

And with how they were getting blockers out to help with the quick screens and then using those blockers to rugby push forward... it's tough to defend.

As a defense, you aren't going to simply say you're defending all of that all the time, and it takes time to adjust to their script.

Just like every other "scary" running team ever, you let them run the ball and don't get sucked into it too much.... there's no "establishing the run" and "gotta stop the run"... you just can't let it get out of hand to the point the offense is picking up first downs on 1st and 2nd downs (happened on 2 drives last weekend). You still have to make enough early down stops to force them into passing downs, then defend those without letting Allen run wild.

Let them take 13 plays to march down the field.. it's what all defenses do these days. People get pissed early in games when "they're running right down our throats!" and then they settle for a FG and everything is okay again. Rinse, repeat.

It it just far easier to throw the ball to RBs out of the backfield than I realize or have we simply sucked at defending that for 25 years? Do we maybe NOT suck at defending it now and it's Bootleg PTSD?

Crazy to me that we constantly get gashed by the same thing. Then again, my memory is that the Ravens system doesn't really throw to the RBs very much. Gotta figure they'll go to the TEs and Flowers from the slot a lot on play fakes as a proxy for those RB throws.

Bearcat 01-26-2024 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363663)
It it just far easier to throw the ball to RBs out of the backfield than I realize or have we simply sucked at defending that for 25 years? Do we maybe NOT suck at defending it now and it's Bootleg PTSD?

Crazy to me that we constantly get gashed by the same thing. Then again, my memory is that the Ravens system doesn't really throw to the RBs very much. Gotta figure they'll go to the TEs and Flowers from the slot a lot on play fakes as a proxy for those RB throws.

I dunno, there were times this year, like the Eagles game, where they were practically in the Eagles' huddle, sniffing out every play and knowing what they were doing before they did it (and then of course everyone else figured it out (except the Bills)).... and then games like last week where they were a step slow for 2.5-3 quarters and the offense looks unstoppable.

I thought the Bills did a good job of getting the ball out quickly and outnumbering the defense, and then had some misdirection and RPO type of stuff, too. And then when they really needed a play, Allen would figure it out with a lateral or that touchdown pass to the pylon. Definitely not dismissing the plays where they'd fall forward for 8 yards after contact or would completely leave a guy out of the backfield uncovered.

The worst of it for the defense probably comes down to the defensive line needing to blow up shit before it starts, and this week needing closer to a burrowhead level of effort from them.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-26-2024 09:43 AM

If I’m Spagnuolo this is the game plan. Lock the Everyone 1 on 1 on outside and put as many man in the box. If Lamar beats you throwing I can live with that but letting his beat you with his feet is unacceptable.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-26-2024 09:44 AM

Mark Andrews is officially back.

smithandrew051 01-26-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363656)
He's super raw.

Nobody remembers Antonio Gates rookie year, but he didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Likey was kinda like that - just very raw but an incredible physical talent. I'd friggen love to have had him here to learn behind Kelce.

When the lights come on for him, he'll make everyone forget about Mark Andrews, IMO. He could be the league's next superstar TE.

The big plays drop your jaw. There just aren’t very many of them. Yet.

He’s a ball player though. I like him.

wachashi 01-26-2024 09:47 AM

I want Lamar throwing the ball 30+ times. Stop the run, show blitz/loaded boxes frequently, and play plenty of zone to allow the secondary to keep eyes on the quarterback.

smithandrew051 01-26-2024 10:05 AM

If the Chiefs lose, the NFL is not rigged.

Zero chance the League would pass on Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17363691)
The big plays drop your jaw. There just aren’t very many of them. Yet.

He’s a ball player though. I like him.

Some Darren Waller to him. Not quite as big, but probably more athletic.

Whogotitbetter 01-26-2024 10:11 AM

If the chiefs main perpersonnel is 13, then 3 tight ends/one rb/one wr that won't do good against the ravens.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Whogotitbetter (Post 17363723)
If the chiefs main perpersonnel is 13, then 3 tight ends/one rb/one wr that won't do good against the ravens.

Superman does good.

That wouldn't do well.

Seriously Lamar, you really should be studying right now. Not arguing with your betters on the internet.

TEX 01-26-2024 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17363692)
I want Lamar throwing the ball 30+ times. Stop the run, show blitz/loaded boxes frequently, and play plenty of zone to allow the secondary to keep eyes on the quarterback.

I want Lamar to throw it as well, especially if he doesn't want to throw it. You're right, make Lamar play QB instead of RB. But not on his terms. That's the key.

In fact, I would just focus on stopping Lamar from running. Now with that, you're going to give up yards to the other RB's, but I'd gladly give up something to get something much bigger in return.

Kman34 01-26-2024 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Whogotitbetter (Post 17363723)
If the chiefs main perpersonnel is 13, then 3 tight ends/one rb/one wr that won't do good against the ravens.

You don’t have a clue what the Chiefs run just like you don’t have a clue how to spell “personnel “ edit.. Apologies to Whogotitbetter..

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17363729)
You don’t have a clue what the Chiefs run just like you don’t have a clue how to spell “personal”….

{pssst - it's personnel}

Kman34 01-26-2024 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363734)
{pssst - it's personnel}

ROFLROFLROFLROFL OMG I apologize to our guest..

smithandrew051 01-26-2024 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363721)
Some Darren Waller to him. Not quite as big, but probably more athletic.

You could probably come up with some creative stuff with him out of the backfield.

Didn’t Chris Cooley used to do a lot of that stuff?

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17363740)
You could probably come up with some creative stuff with him out of the backfield.

Didn’t Chris Cooley used to do a lot of that stuff?

Yeah - what did they used to call him? A J-Back?

Edit: H-back. J-back was our high school terminology for the TE in a triple option.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-26-2024 10:20 AM

This will be the first time we have played Baltimore without Mathieu, who admittedly did a lot to limit them over the MOF in the past. But this is a different offense we are facing and defense they are facing as a whole too.

Kman34 01-26-2024 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17363748)
This will be the first time we have played Baltimore without Mathieu, who admittedly did a lot to limit them over the MOF in the past. But this is a different offense we are facing and defense they are facing as a whole too.

He had two easy picks in that game. One for a TD.. But did a lot of the sidestep tackling… I don’t miss that.

smithandrew051 01-26-2024 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17363754)
He had two easy picks in that game. One for a TD.. But did a lot of the sidestep tackling… I don’t miss that.

I just watched the highlights from that game.

Man, that defense was so bad. It’s night and day from this year.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17363759)
I just watched the highlights from that game.

Man, that defense was so bad. It’s night and day from this year.

Wasn't that the 'Man, this Chris Jones at DE thing may end very poorly' game?

smithandrew051 01-26-2024 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363762)
Wasn't that the 'Man, this Chris Jones at DE thing may end very poorly' game?

Oh yeah. He got embarrassed by Lamar on the edge multiple times.

Oxford 01-26-2024 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 17363686)
If I’m Spagnuolo this is the game plan. Lock the Everyone 1 on 1 on outside and put as many man in the box. If Lamar beats you throwing I can live with that but letting his beat you with his feet is unacceptable.

46 defense

Shag 01-26-2024 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363642)
Likely is good.

If a rusty Andrews takes snaps from Likely, that's a positive.

Now if Andrews takes snaps from Nelson Agholor and they grind us up with 12 personnel, that's not ideal. But they haven't had those two on the field together a lot and Likely isn't really a plus blocker at this stage of his career so it may not be the time to lean into those packages.

We'll see. If Andrews is a problem, Likely would've been as well. It will be a scheme problem more than a personnel mismatch.

That pretty much has to be the plan, right? Given the strengths/weaknesses of both teams, seems obvious that the Ravens will go 12 and just try and run it down our throats the entire game, mixed with short passes to the TEs and Flowers. I can't see any situation where their gameplan is to stretch the field and challenge our DBs, unless they somehow care about the narrative around Lamar.

We need to get them playing from behind, force them out of their plan.

Gary Cooper 01-26-2024 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17363748)
This will be the first time we have played Baltimore without Mathieu, who admittedly did a lot to limit them over the MOF in the past. But this is a different offense we are facing and defense they are facing as a whole too.

I wouldn't mind having the 2016 Eric Berry for this game.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 17363789)
That pretty much has to be the plan, right? Given the strengths/weaknesses of both teams, seems obvious that the Ravens will go 12 and just try and run it down our throats the entire game, mixed with short passes to the TEs and Flowers. I can't see any situation where their gameplan is to stretch the field and challenge our DBs, unless they somehow care about the narrative around Lamar.

We need to get them playing from behind, force them out of their plan.

Correct.

I think we should still defer if we win the toss, but this may be one of those instances where you consider taking the ball.

If you get a score and a stop, you're one drive away from putting the Ravens in a real bind. You get up 10 or 14 on them, it'll take a lot of willpower to not start opening up the offense a bit. Especially since they saw this happen not too terribly long ago against Tennessee. Some doubt WILL creep in.

Harbaugh's a good coach - they may be able to ignore all that. That's why I'd probably still defer. But I'd understand if Andy didn't.

ThaVirus 01-26-2024 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363762)
Wasn't that the 'Man, this Chris Jones at DE thing may end very poorly' game?

Yep. Kinda glad we put that on tape in a pretty meaningless regular season game against Baltimore.

Now we know we can’t run Chris out at end in this Championship matchup. At least not outside of obvious passing situations.

T-post Tom 01-26-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17363799)
I wouldn't mind having the 2016 Eric Berry for this game.

I'll take 1990 DT, who had 20 sacks that year. Quickest 1st step EVER.

Gary Cooper 01-26-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17363817)
I'll take 1990 DT, who had 20 sacks that year. Quickest 1st step EVER.

DT was great but Lamar is slippery as an eel. Back then most QBs were statues in the pocket.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-26-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 17363606)
People are on tv this morning saying KC cannot compete physically with Baltimore. Seems to me that Baltimore is going to get a lot of personal foul penalties.

Ravens are soft. Pound Pacheco and when Lamar gets hit he folds

Pasta Little Brioni 01-26-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17363640)
I was MightyMike for a bit and then vented at BL after seeing him shouting into the void several times and making completely false statements about this place.... and then I logged out and didn't care enough to see if it was responded to or deleted or whatever.

Ace screen name ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni?

FloridaMan88 01-26-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 17363606)
People are on tv this morning saying KC cannot compete physically with Baltimore. Seems to me that Baltimore is going to get a lot of personal foul penalties.

Baltimore’s defense was manhandled in multiple games this season.

See Cleveland bludgeoning them for almost 200 yards rushing… led by a back-up RB.

Coochie liquor 01-26-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 17363310)
You type like someone cut the blood flow to your brain. I hope for your sake you're just naturally reeruned and it's not a stroke.

He’s clearly practicing auto asphyxiation, while jerks it to LameArm highlights. He’s cut the oxygen level off too late a few times apparently.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-26-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17363647)
Yeah, I thought the Bills' game plan was pretty good and really tough to defend.... they used all 50 yards horizontally and basically had an extended running game on both sidelines and up the middle to defend, and still had to respect hero ball and Allen taking off.

And with how they were getting blockers out to help with the quick screens and then using those blockers to rugby push forward... it's tough to defend.

As a defense, you aren't going to simply say you're defending all of that all the time, and it takes time to adjust to their script.

Just like every other "scary" running team ever, you let them run the ball and don't get sucked into it too much.... there's no "establishing the run" and "gotta stop the run"... you just can't let it get out of hand to the point the offense is picking up first downs on 1st and 2nd downs (happened on 2 drives last weekend). You still have to make enough early down stops to force them into passing downs, then defend those without letting Allen run wild.

Let them take 13 plays to march down the field.. it's what all defenses do these days. People get pissed early in games when "they're running right down our throats!" and then they settle for a FG and everything is okay again. Rinse, repeat.

Quite honestly, I find the Bills MUCH more difficult to defend than Baltimore especially having to account more for Josh's arm and the undefendable throws that Lamar could never make

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17363862)
Baltimore’s defense was manhandled in multiple games this season.

See Cleveland bludgeoning them for almost 200 yards rushing… led by a back-up RB.

I did see a fairly interesting breakdown somewhere on their defense vs. quality of QB.

Against roughly half their schedule full of shite QBs (plus Stroud in his first NFL game), they gave up 9 points/gm. Against the other half against high quality QBs they gave up 23 points/gm.

Again, the Eagles parallels start to surface again. But then again, the DVOA stuff does attempt to adjust for that. I just don't worry much about how defenses performed against anyone that WASN'T Patrick Mahomes. He's just a different cat.

Can he have a bad game? Sure - but if he's on, the quality of your defense just doesn't matter. I think it was 2 years ago he kept going up against the #1 scoring defense; like 2 or 3 times that seasons - and averaged 30 odd points/pop against them to re-set the rankings.

Guy rises to challenges far more often than he doesn't.

I mean there's really not a ton to say. On paper, the Ravens should win by less than a score. But in either event, these are two teams that are REALLY evenly matched in most ways. It should be a damn good game.

Though I'd be content with a Chiefs blowout win as well...

Hammock Parties 01-26-2024 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17363869)
Quite honestly, I find the Bills MUCH more difficult to defend than Baltimore especially having to account more for Josh's arm and the undefendable throws that Lamar could never make

You can't play single high against the Bills too much. Josh will destroy you.

You do it all day against Lamar. All ****ing day.

Legendary Chiefs defensive game coming.

PurpleOrange 01-26-2024 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17363856)
Ravens are soft. Pound Pacheco and when Lamar gets hit he folds

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...0VUPtqeb3sQPHs

ntexascardfan 01-26-2024 11:11 AM

I'm also glad we have the early game where there's still a decent chance it'll be raining in Baltimore at kickoff.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17363872)
You can't play single high against the Bills too much. Josh will destroy you.

You do it all day against Lamar. All ****ing day.

Legendary Chiefs defensive game coming.

Can Conner play single high? I kinda doubt he has the eye discipline he needs to do that effectively just yet. He'll get there (god I love the range he's shown) but that's a massive risk at the moment.

Edwards doesn't have the wheels that Conner has, but he's not bad in that regard and he's clever out there. Combine that with the generally stout coverage we'll get on the outside, and I would be pretty comfortable rolling a lot of single high out there.

Reid down in the box can do some pretty stout work to shut down that TE passing game and prevent a 3 yard run from becoming an 8+ yard run.

Someone give Buddy Ryan a call and do a crash course on the 46 Defense, stat!

Pasta Little Brioni 01-26-2024 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PurpleOrange (Post 17363877)

Some piece of shit backup destroyed you from Cleveland and you got bludgeoned over and over so ya you are soft. How many games has Lamar missed? INCLUDING a playoff game he chose not risking a contract over playing a game he could have.

RunKC 01-26-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17363862)
Baltimore’s defense was manhandled in multiple games this season.

See Cleveland bludgeoning them for almost 200 yards rushing… led by a back-up RB.

Joe Burrow was destroying that defense before he got hurt with 6 mins left in the 2nd quarter.

He was 11/17 101 yards 1 TD and a 100 rating

wachashi 01-26-2024 11:15 AM

I think 20-21 points could very well win this game. Two elite defenses. Both sides have every incentive to try and run the ball. Explosive plays could be very rare.

If it's a clean game from both sides with no really costly turnovers, I think 21 points does it.

PurpleOrange 01-26-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 17363879)
I'm also glad we have the early game where there's still a decent chance it'll be raining in Baltimore at kickoff.

Latest update looks like the rain will be done by kickoff.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-26-2024 11:16 AM

Spags doesn't want to play a bunch of single high though. He knows he can let his CBs play extremely physical if they have sure help behind them.

He's gonna play games in the front 7 - McDuffie will blitz plenty, the LBs too. But I don't expect a bunch of one-high.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-26-2024 11:16 AM

Every legit QB other than a green rookie torched that defense


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