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WhiteWhale 05-13-2019 11:48 AM

For everyone who thinks this was bad... I want to remind you that Cercei blew up a religious monument killing hundreds if not thousands including religious leaders and
some entire noble families while the king suicided himself from a window. She caused all of that and what happened?

She was crowned queen for this. There was no revolt by any regions enraged by the murder of their noble house. There was no uprising in the city for the dead mothers and fathers. No outrage that this powerful religious symbol was destroyed. No... the whole of the religion's power just vaporized. Poof!

I'm expecting the 7 people left in King's landing to name her queen and go about their business.

DJ's left nut 05-13-2019 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by God of Thunder (Post 14266014)
I actually suspect Dany will 'capture' Jon and sentence him to die. The dragon will unleash fire upon him - but because he is a true Targaryn, he will not die(Fire can't kill them, remember Dany survived this). People will realize what that means and cause them to turn against her.

Eh, I'm not even a little convinced that 'fire can't kill a Targaryn' is show canon. I think if you view the time that she walked through the fire pit as some kind of bizarre one-off when she was using magic and dragons eggs (afterall, it also hatched dragons), then Jon being burned when he rescued Jeor Mormont in season 2 works.

Let's not forget that B&W hate magic and mysticism - if they can make something a 1-time deal, they'll do it every time. I'd be damn disappointed if Jon suddenly becomes the unburnt as well.

It's just a bridge too far, IMO.

Pogue 05-13-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by God of Thunder (Post 14266034)
Shit - I can see that happening. Lots of rumors about him being a Targ.

Some foreshadowing where Dany warns him the next mistake will be his last and how vary’s was executed.

Then we see Tyrion free Jaime.

GloucesterChief 05-13-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 14266042)
For everyone who thinks this was bad... I want to remind you that Cercei blew up a religious monument killing hundreds if not thousands including religious leaders and
some entire noble families while the king suicided himself from a window. She caused all of that and what happened?

She was crowned queen for this. There was no revolt by any regions enraged by the murder of their noble house. There was no uprising in the city for the dead mothers and fathers. No outrage that this powerful religious symbol was destroyed. No... the whole of the religion's power just vaporized. Poof!

I'm expecting the 7 people left in King's landing to name her queen and go about their business.

Hell, what 4 or 5 major kingdoms probably have dissolved into pretty kingdoms by now due to a huge power vacuum.

The show runners and script writers have no idea how a medieval society would respond to that event but that should be pretty obvious that they did no research for anything

God of Thunder 05-13-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14266047)
Eh, I'm not even a little convinced that 'fire can't kill a Targaryn' is show canon. I think if you view the time that she walked through the fire pit as some kind of bizarre one-off when she was using magic and dragons eggs (afterall, it also hatched dragons), then Jon being burned when he rescued Jeor Mormont in season 2 works.

Let's not forget that B&W hate magic and mysticism - if they can make something a 1-time deal, they'll do it every time. I'd be damn disappointed if Jon suddenly becomes the unburnt as well.

It's just a bridge too far, IMO.

The Doth'Raki building also burned to a crisp and she walked out unscathed.

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DJ's left nut 05-13-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by God of Thunder (Post 14266058)
The Doth'Raki building also burned to a crisp and she walked out unscathed.

But molten gold kills Viserys?

Again - Jon has been burnt. He's clearly not immune to fire.

ToxSocks 05-13-2019 11:58 AM

I thought only Pure blood Targs are fire resistant. Jon Snow is not a pure blood Targ, and apparently neither was Viserys.

Sassy Squatch 05-13-2019 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14266062)
I thought only Pure blood Targs are fire resistant. Jon Snow is not a pure blood Targ, and apparently neither was Viserys.

Ah. Makes sense why they stay in the family to **** then.

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KC_Lee 05-13-2019 12:00 PM

One thing we can all agree on; if you are a young girl in the world of GoT, never have a small toy of a hooved animal (i.e. horse or deer / stag) or you'll end up getting cooked to crisp.

Buehler445 05-13-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14265485)
Yes. Especially that ONLY Euron arrives on that particular shore at just the right time to fight Jaime. One more Ironborn shows up and it's not much of a fight.

Meh, whatever. Wasnt' a bad fight. It's a TV show. Lots more that's stupider to bitch about.

Maybe someone raised this earlier, but WHERE THE ACTUAL **** did all those Dothraki and Unsullied come from?! Was there another set of armies that weren't at Winterfell that we were ever mentioned?

I would've thought a more logical explanation would be that the men of the North that were south of Winterfell had been heading south to get away from the Army of the Dead and they formed up with men from the Riverlands, the Vale, Dorne, the Reach and maybe even Highgarden to form a new army. Instead, it appears to be the same freaking army that I thought had been wiped out at Wintefell.

Did I miss something somewhere along the way explaining this?

Yes. They said half their force was eliminated. That was my biggest get the **** out of here with that shit moment. Obviously the writers didn’t watch the battle.

Pogue 05-13-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14266062)
I thought only Pure blood Targs are fire resistant. Jon Snow is not a pure blood Targ, and apparently neither was Viserys.

Viserys didn’t die by fire though. Thought it was molten metal poured on his head.

Sassy Squatch 05-13-2019 12:03 PM

Has Jon actually done anything this season? He rode Rhaegal and got chased around by undead Viserion for a bit. Gave that nice speech at the victory feast. Said "I don't want it" and "you're my queen" incessantly. Stood around while folks got slaughtered.

That pretty much cover it?

Buehler445 05-13-2019 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 14266075)
Viserys didn’t die by fire though. Thought it was molten metal poured on his head.

Show said nothing about pure blood. I believe she said “real Targaryen”

GloucesterChief 05-13-2019 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14266078)
Has Jon actually done anything this season? He rode Rhaegal and got chased around by undead Viserion for a bit. Gave that nice speech at the victory feast. Said "I don't want it" and "you're my queen" incessantly. Stood around while folks got slaughtered.

That pretty much cover it?

He is a beloved and respected leader until he isn't. His troops decided that looting a city that was collapsing and being burnt around them was more important than their king.


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