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DaFace 05-13-2019 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 14266359)
I believe they did follow most of what GRRM had set to happen in the end. I think what makes GRRM's writing so good was the journey to get to places though... not necessarily the outcome. They have completely screwed with the journey.

No disagreement there.

Bump 05-13-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14266331)
I'm pretty convinced that Dany laying waste to King's Landing is straight from GRRM. The path they took to get here was a little iffy, but it's exactly the kind of thing he'd do. Couple that with the scene from Season 2 where Dany is walking through the throne room all covered in "snow," and I think it's clear this has been planned for a LONG time.

Ya maybe, I haven't read the books so I'm just going off of what he said. He was going on a bit how they didn't include the 3rd targaryen that took over Storms End or something like that.

Pogue 05-13-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 14266359)
I believe they did follow most of what GRRM had set to happen in the end. I think what makes GRRM's writing so good was the journey to get to places though... not necessarily the outcome. They have completely screwed with the journey.

I blame HBO and their budget for the last two seasons.

Sassy Squatch 05-13-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 14266386)
I blame HBO and their budget for the last two seasons.

HBO wanted more than 6 episodes.

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/2019/...-final-season/

Pogue 05-13-2019 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14266397)

I stand corrected, but why couldn’t the show have transitioned from D&D? Hand it off to someone else to to over the reigns?

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"I don't know," Martin explained last year at the Emmys. "Ask David [Benioff] and Dan [Weiss] when they come through. We could have gone to 11, 12, 13 seasons, but I guess they wanted a life.”

Frazod 05-13-2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14266307)
Finale reveal

Spoiler!

Not true!

Spoiler!

ThaVirus 05-13-2019 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 14266301)
I have a buddy who's really into GoT and read all the books and he's pissed lol. "these ****ing writers just shit all over the books, nothing after the first 3 books even happens blah blah blah"

In their defense, it would be extremely difficult to have a truly accurate adaptation after the third book. Martin just had soooo many more characters, each with their little subplots and strings of events that would be difficult for the average TV viewer to follow. Plus, so. much. more. fantasy. I mentioned it earlier but in the books krakens and unicorns are real, Euron has Valyrian steel armor and a magical dragon-controlling horn, Euron's brother Victarion has a flaming hand gifted by a red priest, etc.. I don't think including everything would make for a very 'clean' presentation.

I'll give these dudes credit if no one else will. They've cocked up some shit here and there, but this show was undeniably incredible for the first four seasons. They did a hell of a job with the castings. They even had some fantastic original content as well, namely everything with Tywin and Arya at Harrenhal and I believe The Hound and Arya running into Lorch ("every ****ing chicken"), which are worth the price of admission alone.

ThaVirus 05-13-2019 03:55 PM

Off the top of my head, the only thing they ****ed up to an unforgivable degree was the entire Jaime and Bronn in Dorne subplot and literally everything about Euron.

Hawk 05-13-2019 04:06 PM

Oh man, the actor that plays Barristan Selmy says GRRM has finished Books 6 and 7 but promised D&D he'd wait until after the show ended to release them. If only this is true...if only!

https://tvweb.com/george-rr-martin-g...rdIM3V2PF72tdI

Clyde Frog 05-13-2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14266303)
Spoiler!

Mahomes would have Full Countered that shit back like Meliodas.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/4314...temid=11902509

Hawk 05-13-2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14266501)
In their defense, it would be extremely difficult to have a truly accurate adaptation after the third book. Martin just had soooo many more characters, each with their little subplots and strings of events that would be difficult for the average TV viewer to follow. Plus, so. much. more. fantasy. I mentioned it earlier but in the books krakens and unicorns are real, Euron has Valyrian steel armor and a magical dragon-controlling horn, Euron's brother Victarion has a flaming hand gifted by a red priest, etc.. I don't think including everything would make for a very 'clean' presentation.

I'll give these dudes credit if no one else will. They've cocked up some shit here and there, but this show was undeniably incredible for the first four seasons. They did a hell of a job with the castings. They even had some fantastic original content as well, namely everything with Tywin and Arya at Harrenhal and I believe The Hound and Arya running into Lorch ("every ****ing chicken"), which are worth the price of admission alone.

You have to include the Hound vs. Brienne fight as well, I loved that scene.

And then their absolute BEST work that was not in the books (alluded to, but not shown) was the Hardhome episode in Season 5 Episode 8. That was one of the best episodes in the whole series, and there was nothing to really draw on from the books for that one.

They have rushed the ending to this great show which is unfortunate, but they have certainly done a lot of good stuff with it over the years.

Amnorix 05-13-2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14266501)
In their defense, it would be extremely difficult to have a truly accurate adaptation after the third book. Martin just had soooo many more characters, each with their little subplots and strings of events that would be difficult for the average TV viewer to follow. Plus, so. much. more. fantasy. I mentioned it earlier but in the books krakens and unicorns are real, Euron has Valyrian steel armor and a magical dragon-controlling horn, Euron's brother Victarion has a flaming hand gifted by a red priest, etc.. I don't think including everything would make for a very 'clean' presentation.

I'll give these dudes credit if no one else will. They've cocked up some shit here and there, but this show was undeniably incredible for the first four seasons. They did a hell of a job with the castings. They even had some fantastic original content as well, namely everything with Tywin and Arya at Harrenhal and I believe The Hound and Arya running into Lorch ("every ****ing chicken"), which are worth the price of admission alone.


On balance, this.

chiefzilla1501 05-13-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 14266409)
I stand corrected, but why couldn’t the show have transitioned from D&D? Hand it off to someone else to to over the reigns?

How far do you want to go? Is it the same show when 30 year old Maisie Williams is doing this or watching almost 50 year old knights go into battle ? It's a wonder most of the cast has even stayed alive in real life. Way too many shows have run too long. Would squeezing a few more episodes have been worth waiting a few more months for this season and would the cast and crew even have the energy for it? The show probably didn't hit the sweet spot with ideal number of seasons and episodes. But there are a lot of good reasons to wrap it up quickly. Imagine if the series got handed to a showrunners who dextered the hell out of the ending. People may not love how the series is ending but deep down inside even the biggest haters have to be somewhat satisfied with it.

Hawk 05-13-2019 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk (Post 14266538)
Oh man, the actor that plays Barristan Selmy says GRRM has finished Books 6 and 7 but promised D&D he'd wait until after the show ended to release them. If only this is true...if only!

https://tvweb.com/george-rr-martin-g...rdIM3V2PF72tdI

Well never ****ing mind. GRRM put an end to this speculation.

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/

Sassy Squatch 05-13-2019 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk (Post 14266566)
Well never ****ing mind. GRRM put an end to this speculation.

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/

LMAO


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