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Sam Hall 02-10-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5478030)
That could be said for several NFL QB's.

I don't think Big Ben is the key for the Steelers. He's second to their defense.

Smed1065 02-10-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5478014)
You really don't get the whole QB position, do you?

There have been 43 Super Bowls. Rothlisberger has won two. Drew Brees was not re-signed by the team that drafted him and while he's put up gaudy numbers (style points), he hasn't even won a playoff game.

So yeah, I'll take Big Ben any day of the week. And apparently, you've never watched Pittsburgh because for one, their offensive line is worse than the Chiefs and two, their running game isn't much to speak.

Yet all Ben does is will them to wins.

Their running game isn't much to speak.

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Wish we had no rush to speak of.!

DaneMcCloud 02-10-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5478041)
I don't think Big Ben is the key for the Steelers. He's second to their defense.

Then you've never seen them play.

Explain to me how their defense gave up 407 yards in the Super Bowl but won the game because why again?

Oh yeah, Rothlisberger drove them down the field with less than 2 minutes to play to win the game.

Right.

dirk digler 02-10-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5478033)
Duh, my bad.

No big deal.

Drew Brees has been the QB of a team that is alot like what the 2003 Chiefs were. All O and no D. I don't put that on him I put that on Sean Peyton and the front office.

Sam Hall 02-10-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5478048)
Then you've never seen them play.

Explain to me how their defense gave up 407 yards in the Super Bowl but won the game because why again?

Oh yeah, Rothlisberger drove them down the field with less than 2 minutes to play to win the game.

Right.

There are even more examples of him not playing well and the Steelers still winning because of their defense.

OnTheWarpath15 02-10-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5478041)
I don't think Big Ben is the key for the Steelers. He's second to their defense.

The defense that gave up almost double their season average in the biggest game of the year, only to have BR drive 90 yards in 2:00 with broken ribs for the win?

Mama Hip Rockets 02-10-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5478048)
Then you've never seen them play.

Explain to me how their defense gave up 407 yards in the Super Bowl but won the game because why again?

Oh yeah, Rothlisberger drove them down the field with less than 2 minutes to play to win the game.

Right.

have you ever seen them play, other than the super bowl? you do know they played an entire season before that, right? their defense is pretty mother****ing awesome.

DaneMcCloud 02-10-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5478049)
No big deal.

Drew Brees has been the QB of a team that is alot like what the 2003 Chiefs were. All O and no D. I don't put that on him I put that on Sean Peyton and the front office.

Except that when they really needed offense, they blew it in the NFC Championship.

I'm by no means saying that Brees isn't statistically a great QB, but there's more to a winning QB than stats.

doomy3 02-10-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5478054)
The defense that gave up almost double their season average in the biggest game of the year, only to have BR drive 90 yards in 2:00 with broken ribs for the win?

So, do you also believe Roethlisberger superior to Brees because of that?

OnTheWarpath15 02-10-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 5478046)
Their running game isn't much to speak.

3 Pittsburgh Steelers
10 Pittsburgh Steelers
5 Pittsburgh Steelers
2 Pittsburgh Steelers

Wish we had no rush to speak of.!

I'm not sure where you got those numbers, but the Steelers were ranked in the bottom quarter of the league in rushing this year.

DaneMcCloud 02-10-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 5478059)
have you ever seen them play, other than the super bowl? you do know they played an entire season before that, right? their defense is pretty mother****ing awesome.

Yeah, their defense is great but without Ben, they don't win the Super Bowl.

Plain and simple.

DaneMcCloud 02-10-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5478064)
I'm not sure where you got those numbers, but the Steelers were ranked in the bottom quarter of the league in rushing this year.

I don't know where he got them, either.

The Steelers had the 22nd ranked offense in 2008.

dirk digler 02-10-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5478060)
I'm by no means saying that Brees isn't statistically a great QB, but there's more to a winning QB than stats.

I definitely agree with that.

DaneMcCloud 02-10-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5478063)
So, do you also believe Roethlisberger superior to Brees because of that?

Yeah, I do.

Is Joe Montana "superior" to Dan Fouts or Dan Marino?

I think so.

dirk digler 02-10-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5478072)
Yeah, I do.

Is Joe Montana "superior" to Dan Fouts or Dan Marino?

I think so.

Yep I agree with that too. Montana never did put up the biggest stats but when it came time to make the big play or play great in a big game he was money.


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