A lot of the guys that many of us wanted to draft on the O-Line went to teams that had solid O-Lines already, so it's unfair to say that we should regret passing on them, becuase we had shit.

I've been wrong a lot in the past, and have said so when it applies.

I've yet to be proven wrong on anything since Pioli's been hired.

When the day comes, if the day comes, I'll come and eat crow like I did when I was wrong about Carl or any past player.

No, I took those into account when I said I think he would see much less than 67% of the snaps actually.

Maybe..but that isn't what I was talking about...It is a huge IF, as the average RB's career is only about 3 years or so anyhow.


He isn't the #2 back though. We have Jones and Charles as the 1 and 2. He is the #3. Not sure what your definition of hefty is....but, 50% of the snaps is pretty hefty in my eyes, and I doubt he will even get that. If he does, it will be a good pick.

Yep.

I hate this team, that's why I've spent over $25k of my hard-earned money to attend games, at home and on the road, over just the last 7 years alone.

But then why come onto a message board just to give your opinion and defend it, when you admit that your opnion will never change? To hear yourself talk? To constantly believe that everyone else is wrong and you are the only correct person?

It is very strange, you must admit..

Just to be clear here, there were guys available at our pick in the second round who would have definitely solved our pass rushing and/or ILB issues for the next decade? If that is correct, who specifically are these players? I'm a bit shocked that these guys weren't drafted higher, given their guaranteed long-term production.

I watched the Bills a lot last year, becuase od Wood and Meredith specifically.

Andy Levitre was the best of the four rookies.

Wood looked lost a few times, but did show his talent as well, and will probably become a stud.

But Demetrius Bell showed the athletic ability that some said he had going onto the draft, and said he was a project that had huge upside.

He was that.

He struggled more than the rest, but his upside is off the charts.

He could, if they show patience and stick with him, become a top 5 LT.

But I think you're ruling out the fact that we'll have plenty of opportunity to find these guys over the next few years.

I don't think this even remotely says that Pioli is satisfied with the front 7. I think we'll be aggressive in free agency next offseason, where we can probably find a pass rusher and maybe a Nose Tackle like Wilfork. And I think that over the next two drafts and the offseason, we can fix the ILB problem. And while you'll overpay for those guys, at least you know exactly what you'll get.

Admitting you were wrong is changing your opinion?

Seems to me that whatever you hold an opinion on would have to become somewhat factual or generally accepted, or you wouldn't admit you were wrong.

At that point, it's no longer an opinion, is it?

Hey, I was on that bandwagon as well.

I'm just admitting that while the Chiefs did have serious needs along the offensive line, one year later, it doesn't seem like the Chiefs were passing up sure-fire Pro Bowlers in rounds 3-7.

Which also makes it likely the all of these defensive players available won't be sure-fire Pro Bowlers as well.

You can scout the shit out of these guys for 8 years, from high school to college and at the end of the day, be wrong about how they project to the NFL.

It doesn't take 5 years to rebuild a football team, no matter how poor it is.

Pioli and Jim Schwartz started their rebuilding process at the same time.

From the looks of it, Schwartz is well ahead of Pioli - though no one will admit it because of Detroit's history.

No one wants to admit that a franchise like Detroit is doing a better job rebuilding than we are.

Dinner time. I'm out..

yeah Detroit did great when they passed on Oher for Pettigrew!

what did they do this year?

Draft a tackle the drafturbators like in the 5th round!

Whoohooo! I bet he's a sure thing.

I think this idea that people have that next year's free agency is going to be some kind of deep pool of talent is off base.

With no cap this year, guys with big contracts that teams feel are not players that will play to that contract will be cut or traded, if possible.

The guys that teams want to keep will probably stay put when a new agreement is in place, because teams are going to have tons of money under the cap to keep those guys.

I think you're talking about a RB like Adrian Peterson or Priest Holmes. AP takes way too much punishment as a back and Priest played in a league where 350+ carries was the norm.

Usually, RBs are slowly introduced to the league to get used to NFL workloads. Like when AP was limited to only 240 carries his rookie year. Jones has 1-2 years here max. In 2 years, I think McCluster will take on a Sproles role, where he takes a pretty decent amount of carries per game. If the goal is to prepare for 3 years from now, rather than trying to win today, that's a valuable asset for the Chiefs.