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DaFace 05-23-2011 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7658630)
Thats what I mean. I'm truly thankful (hopeful) that it isn't worse, but I'm shocked as to how it isn't.
I'm no expert, but it doesn't surprise me too much. The numbers are going to climb still as people start finding people who were "lost." But I'd think that it's VERY likely that you'll be injured by a tornado, but less likely that you'll actually be killed. In other words, if your roof flies off and the walls cave in, you will likely be trapped underneath a bunch of rubble, but as long as it doesn't come down on you too hard, it's survivable.

Radar Chief 05-23-2011 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7658610)
I'm curious. It looks like a total disaster with almost nothing left standing for thousands of homes and businesses. I'm wondering how the death toll isn't closer to a few thousand if there aren't many basements down there. I would think on a sunday evening, most people are home or out to dinner at that time, neither of which seem very safe. Do more homes have basements down there, or was there a very good warning system in place for this storm?
They said they had around 17 minutes worth of warning. Surely that helped some.

DaFace 05-23-2011 03:27 PM
On a side note, why do people keep saying that Joplin doesn't have basements? (Legitimate question.)

Is there something about its history that made people think that tornadoes weren't a problem or something?

Radar Chief 05-23-2011 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7658629)
My God.
Yea, how that’s not an F5 I don’t know.

Brock 05-23-2011 03:29 PM
Because they're classified by windspeed, not diameter.

JohninGpt 05-23-2011 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7658650)
On a side note, why do people keep saying that Joplin doesn't have basements? (Legitimate question.)

Is there something about its history that made people think that tornadoes weren't a problem or something?
If it's like Tulsa, it's a water table issue.

DaFace 05-23-2011 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 7658652)
Yea, how that’s not an F5 I don’t know.
The scale has to do with the SEVERITY of the storm - not the SIZE. This obviously caused a huge amount of damage, but if you look at the pictures of individual houses, it doesn't seem as bad as the pictures from Greensburg, for example. In Joplin, the houses are giant piles of rubble. In Greensburg, it was more a question of "what houses?"

luv 05-23-2011 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 7658614)
Can I get you to post a link to this information please.
Friend said it should be in the local paper soon, so I'll keep an eye on the website and let you know.

Monty 05-23-2011 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7658650)
On a side note, why do people keep saying that Joplin doesn't have basements? (Legitimate question.)

Is there something about its history that made people think that tornadoes weren't a problem or something?
I believe it may have more to do with the composition of the soil than anything else. Here in the Dallas area, there's only a handful of homes with basements because of the expansion/contraction of the clay. Not entirely sure if that's the issue in Joplin though.

DaFace 05-23-2011 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JohninGpt (Post 7658658)
If it's like Tulsa, it's a water table issue.
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.

HonestChieffan 05-23-2011 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7658659)
The scale has to do with the SEVERITY of the storm - not the SIZE. This obviously caused a huge amount of damage, but if you look at the pictures of individual houses, it doesn't seem as bad as the pictures from Greensburg, for example. In Joplin, the houses are giant piles of rubble. In Greensburg, it was more a question of "what houses?"
Greensburg would fit in the path of this one

Monty 05-23-2011 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7658664)
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.
And mine doesn't? :p

dirk digler 05-23-2011 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7658650)
On a side note, why do people keep saying that Joplin doesn't have basements? (Legitimate question.)

Is there something about its history that made people think that tornadoes weren't a problem or something?
I don't know if that is accurate I read stories where people went into their basements.

DaFace 05-23-2011 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 7658674)
Greensburg would fit in the path of this one
Again, size vs. severity.

Radar Chief 05-23-2011 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7658656)
Because they're classified by windspeed, not diameter.
That makes sense. I assume they calculate that with Doppler?


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