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O.city 02-19-2012 06:54 PM

I thought someone said they had to get to within 5 percent of the cap this year?

aturnis 02-19-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8384176)
All this talk about Carr Bowe, Soliai etc.


If we just signed those three to market value, what would the likely hit be?

Completely depends on the contract. If they were smart, they'd take as much of it in the first two years as possible.

A bunch this year, to get them close enough to carry over the remaining cap space into 2013, then use the rollover primarily on those 3, getting us all the players we coveted, and leaving our future cap situation bright.

aturnis 02-19-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8384188)
I thought someone said they had to get to within 5 percent of the cap this year?

They need to be within 5% if they want to carry the remaining balance to next season.

aturnis 02-19-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8384182)

I still think the Chiefs will be way under the cap this season as well. And all this no spending is to reflect next season when you have to be really close to the cap. They will just splash then.

That sounds like the complete opposite of something that Scott Pioli would do.

notorious 02-19-2012 09:17 PM

Who are you guys kidding?


We have a .500 team that competes every Sunday. Why should Clark put out any more money if he is still getting paid?

It's an easy 30 million in his pocket. That's why he overpaid Pioli, so that he can get value.

O.city 02-19-2012 09:18 PM

Well he is gonna have to pay, eventually.

aturnis 02-19-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8384422)
Who are you guys kidding?


We have a .500 team that competes every Sunday. Why should Clark put out any more money if he is still getting paid?

It's an easy 30 million in his pocket. That's why he overpaid Pioli, so that he can get value.

Duh. We HAVE to reach next years floor. Do you really think Pioli will go into next season 30mil below the cap again and be FORCED to pay guys contracts they don't deserve? We have less "dead" money than anyone in the league. Do you think it got that way by Pioli paying guys contracts they don't deserve?

Bowe
Carr
Soliai

If Pioli thinks that they are worth the money they are asking, he will pay it. If not, he'll let them walk, ala Shaun Smith. Pioli seems to have been right. Smiths production looks to have dropped by roughly half, whether by fault of his own or not, and Amon Gordon came in and produced for us. Not only him, but Allen Bailey too.

I'm not a huge Pioli fan, but he's done a stellar job thus far.

aturnis 02-19-2012 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8384533)
Duh. We HAVE to reach next years floor. Do you really think Pioli will go into next season 30mil below the cap again and be FORCED to pay guys contracts they don't deserve? We have less "dead" money than anyone in the league. Do you think it got that way by Pioli paying guys contracts they don't deserve?

Bowe
Carr
Soliai

If Pioli thinks that they are worth the money they are asking, he will pay it. If not, he'll let them walk, ala Shaun Smith. Pioli seems to have been right. Smiths production looks to have dropped by roughly half, whether by fault of his own or not, and Amon Gordon came in and produced for us. Not only him, but Allen Bailey too.

I'm not a huge Pioli fan, but he's done a stellar job thus far.

Not only that, but why on earth would he decide to activate the cap rollover clause in order to give us roughly an extra 20 mil to spend this year?

beach tribe 02-19-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8384422)
Who are you guys kidding?


We have a .500 team that competes every Sunday. Why should Clark put out any more money if he is still getting paid?

It's an easy 30 million in his pocket. That's why he overpaid Pioli, so that he can get value.

Because the real ****ing dough comes from a FULL Arrowhead, PO wins, merchandising, etc. etc.
That 30 mil comes back in fold when you put a contender on the field.
Montana took us to the AFC championship game, and the stadium stayed packed until Herm showed up.

beach tribe 02-20-2012 07:28 AM

Probably a repost so I'll save posting the entire article.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...module=HP11_cp

htismaqe 02-20-2012 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 8384539)
Because the real ****ing dough comes from a FULL Arrowhead, PO wins, merchandising, etc. etc.
That 30 mil comes back in fold when you put a contender on the field.
Montana took us to the AFC championship game, and the stadium stayed packed until Herm showed up.

The REAL dough, for both the NCAA and the NFL, comes from the TV contracts.

Period.

htismaqe 02-20-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8384533)
Duh. We HAVE to reach next years floor. Do you really think Pioli will go into next season 30mil below the cap again and be FORCED to pay guys contracts they don't deserve? We have less "dead" money than anyone in the league. Do you think it got that way by Pioli paying guys contracts they don't deserve?

Bowe
Carr
Soliai

If Pioli thinks that they are worth the money they are asking, he will pay it. If not, he'll let them walk, ala Shaun Smith. Pioli seems to have been right. Smiths production looks to have dropped by roughly half, whether by fault of his own or not, and Amon Gordon came in and produced for us. Not only him, but Allen Bailey too.

I'm not a huge Pioli fan, but he's done a stellar job thus far.

No offense, but you could pretty much replace Pioli with Peterson and this post would sound like 10 year ago all over again.

Chiefnj2 02-20-2012 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8384865)
No offense, but you could pretty much replace Pioli with Peterson and this post would sound like 10 year ago all over again.

Peterson wouldn't have upped Charles, Hali and Johnson with plenty of time to spare.

htismaqe 02-20-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8384870)
Peterson wouldn't have upped Charles, Hali and Johnson with plenty of time to spare.

He re-signed quite a few players proactively over his time. Nobody gives him credit for getting Derrick Thomas into the fold early in 1996 because it required letting Neil Smith go...

beach tribe 02-20-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8384863)
The REAL dough, for both the NCAA and the NFL, comes from the TV contracts.

Period.

This is true.


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