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O.city 03-25-2019 09:18 AM

So that's a joke of a secondary, but a 2nd ish round corner in a weak corner class is going to change it?

Mother****erJones 03-25-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14178549)
So that's a joke of a secondary, but a 2nd ish round corner in a weak corner class is going to change it?

Adding a corner or a safety like CGJ adds more impact to the secondary than drafting an OL. You feel fine with this secondary covering Oakland and LAC WRs now? Because I don’t.

Even if you don’t go corner at 29, you can add a stud safety like CGJ. Pairing CGJ with honey badger would be awesome and so much better than just going with Watts and Lucas lol.


What happens if one of these corners gets hurt? Then you’re down to even more of a bare position. I’m just ****ing sick of ignoring obvious needs in the secondary.

Shit, there’s even more of a need at WR and you could add more impact there at 29. I just hate ****ing first round OL and nothing will change that. Remember Mitch Morse, Rodney Hudson? Not first rounders

The Franchise 03-25-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 14178570)
Adding a corner or a safety like CGJ adds more impact to the secondary than drafting an OL. You feel fine with this secondary covering Oakland and LAC WRs now? Because I don’t.

Even if you don’t go corner at 29, you can add a stud safety like CGJ. Pairing CGJ with honey badger would be awesome and so much better than just going with Watts and Lucas lol.


What happens if one of these corners gets hurt? Then you’re down to even more of a bare position. I’m just ****ing sick of ignoring obvious needs in the secondary.

What happens if Reiter sucks and in turn gets Mahomes hurt?

The Franchise 03-25-2019 09:30 AM

Matt Miller just drafted Bradbury at 29 for the Chiefs in his latest mock draft.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-to-go#slide29

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The Pick: OC Garrett Bradbury, North Carolina State

Chiefs fans might not be happy about this one, but general manager Brett Veach must resist the urge to reach for an edge-rusher just to cross off a need on a list. The value is not here for Jaylon Ferguson or Jachai Polite.

There is great value for center Garrett Bradbury at No. 29 overall. He's the top interior lineman in this draft class and comes at a position of need after Mitch Morse left in free agency. As much as the Chiefs have needs on defense, Veach must think about protecting MVP Patrick Mahomes and using the team's two second-round picks to address the defense.

O.city 03-25-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 14178570)
Adding a corner or a safety like CGJ adds more impact to the secondary than drafting an OL. You feel fine with this secondary covering Oakland and LAC WRs now? Because I don’t.

Even if you don’t go corner at 29, you can add a stud safety like CGJ. Pairing CGJ with honey badger would be awesome and so much better than just going with Watts and Lucas lol.


What happens if one of these corners gets hurt? Then you’re down to even more of a bare position. I’m just ****ing sick of ignoring obvious needs in the secondary.

Shit, there’s even more of a need at WR and you could add more impact there at 29. I just hate ****ing first round OL and nothing will change that. Remember Mitch Morse, Rodney Hudson? Not first rounders

The issue isn't ignoring the need. You can address the need later in the draft with a guy slotted more likely where he should be.

You don't want to end up with the 6th best C and the 5th best C when you could have the best C who has a chance to be an all pro and the 8th best CB.

Or the 4th safety on your board.

It's all about value.

Mother****erJones 03-25-2019 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14178576)
What happens if Reiter sucks and in turn gets Mahomes hurt?

You can take a center outside of round 1. Like the last two awesome centers KC has drafted (Morse and Hudson). Also, Reiter didn’t suck last year and was extended. They liked what they saw in him.

Mother****erJones 03-25-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14178590)
The issue isn't ignoring the need. You can address the need later in the draft with a guy slotted more likely where he should be.

You don't want to end up with the 6th best C and the 5th best C when you could have the best C who has a chance to be an all pro and the 8th best CB.

Or the 4th safety on your board.

It's all about value.

And he ****ing ignored corner/safety altogether. That’s my other problem. Have fun watching another trash secondary. That’s what you’d be getting.

O.city 03-25-2019 09:34 AM

Were you ok with the Tyson Jackson pick? Cause that's what could end up being the case here if you're dead set on taking a certain position. .

O.city 03-25-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 14178594)
And he ****ing ignored corner/safety altogether. That’s my other problem. Have fun watching another trash secondary. That’s what you’d be getting.

The Chiefs addressed that in free agency.

Mother****erJones 03-25-2019 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14178595)
Were you ok with the Tyson Jackson pick? Cause that's what could end up being the case here if you're dead set on taking a certain position. .

**** no. And that’s a dumbass argument because Scott Pioli was a dip shit.

Mother****erJones 03-25-2019 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14178596)
The Chiefs addressed that in free agency.

Breeland on a one year deal isn’t addressing corner. Next year Breeland and Fuller will be free agents.

Love honey badger but I need one more. I’m not depending on Watts, Lucas, Murray and Sorensen to fill out the rest of the safety position. Yuck

chiefforlife 03-25-2019 09:45 AM

We are well aware of the needs on Defense.

Andy Reed is not the only HC to realize the fastest way to a QB is up the middle. Adding Bradbury is a need. It protects our Most Valuable Player! If he could have a similar impact as Quinton Nelson and give MVP a second or two more in the pocket, hes worth it.

I have no problem with this pick, it may not be sexy but its a need and its makes our Oline that much better.

O.city 03-25-2019 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 14178606)
**** no. And that’s a dumbass argument because Scott Pioli was a dip shit.

The argument of overdrafting a player based on need? Yeah, seems to fit pretty well.

DJ's left nut 03-25-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 14178591)
You can take a center outside of round 1. Like the last two awesome centers KC has drafted (Morse and Hudson).

Who both went in the 2nd; 55 and 49 respectively. In other words, before we'd even be picking in the 2nd.

Our quality centers were not throwaway picks. They were, at best, guys who will end up costing us a 2 to get ahold of. And if history holds, they wouldn't have been there for our 2nd round picks anyway. Even in your world, taking someone like CGJ (something I have conceded I may have been better served doing but I gambled in the belief that he could fall; he damn near did) would've cost me Omenihu or Jones in the 2nd when I drafted McCoy. And I think both of those guys can make a greater impact than what we'd get at FS from CGJ over Lucas/Watts.

I think we're so damaged by the horrific play of Parker that we forget 2 major things - 1) FS simply isn't as critical in Spags scheme and 2) FS is something you only notice when it's awful. I believe Watts and Lucas, not to mention the ability to flex around Mathieu as needed with the likely retention of Sorensen, will keep us well removed from 'awful' there. And if the rest of the defense improves, the FS becomes far less critical. Realistically you SHOULDN'T be throwing high-end assets at a FS unless you think he's gonna be Earl Thomas. Because if the rest of your defense isn't tripping over its dick every play, the FS is just there to mop up as needed.

Besides, I didn't ignore the secondary - I simply didn't see them as quality picks when we were on the board. Had Adderley fallen to us at 29, I was taking him. Had Layne, CGJ, Love or Savage fallen to us in the 2nd, I'd have likely taken one of them (believing all the while that Love and Savage would've been overdrafts). I was pondering Joejuan in the 2nd but don't see him as an obvious upgrade over what we have given his feet. I was looking at Long as a good developmental fit in the 3rd and Hooker as a solid FS option but again, neither of them made it that far.

But I didn't feel like any of those guys were the best options on the board at the time of the pick and I'm absolutely not going to put need ahead of pedigree, especially when the picks I took addressed positions that could just as easily use the upgrade.

O.city 03-25-2019 09:55 AM

Thing we always always see is that needs next year, aren't needs yet. Needs we think are needs now, may not be needs.

You've got to constantly be adding the best available talent to your roster, no matter the position (within reason). I mean sure, don't go taking a Qb in round 1.

But just always be open to taking the best rated player on your board.


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