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TripleThreat 01-22-2021 01:45 PM

Mahomes. It’s not even close. The only reason people say he could be better is to create conversation about the quarterback topic. Everyone knows all 32 teams would take mahomes first if every team was drafting from scratch.

htismaqe 01-22-2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15499044)
Allen has a higher YPC average, significantly more TDs, he's bigger, faster, stronger.

He's a more dangerous rusher.

Allen has a half a yard better YPC average and significantly more red zone carries.

Of course Allen has more TD's, he gets a lot more opportunities.

htismaqe 01-22-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15499054)
Here’s an interesting advanced metric on QB rushing effectiveness

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/seaso...aRuns/dir/desc

When Mahomes runs, it's almost always a big play. A big first down, a TD on 3rd and long.

He's surgical.

There's no comparison between him and Allen. Allen is big and runs hard. Patrick Mahomes is infinitely more clutch.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 01-22-2021 01:51 PM

We should worry that the Chiefs' check took so long to clear the bank

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-22-2021 01:54 PM

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ThaVirus 01-22-2021 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15499054)
Here’s an interesting advanced metric on QB rushing effectiveness

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/seaso...aRuns/dir/desc

I'm sure that takes into account the (assumed) insanely high percentage of Mahomes' runs that go for a 1st down. He is extremely cerebral, and I don't get that same vibe from Allen.

But sometimes you've gotta include the ol' eye test too. Allen is bigger, stronger, faster, and has most volume and efficiency stats on his side. Mahomes is quicker and has a higher football IQ.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15499061)
Allen has a half a yard better YPC average and significantly more red zone carries.

Of course Allen has more TD's, he gets a lot more opportunities.

Right, and I think that speaks to how dangerous Allen is as a runner.

Averaging a half a yard more per carry is a big deal.

htismaqe 01-22-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15499175)
I'm sure that takes into account the (assumed) insanely high percentage of Mahomes' runs that go for a 1st down. He is extremely cerebral, and I don't get that same vibe from Allen.

But sometimes you've gotta include the ol' eye test too. Allen is bigger, stronger, faster, and has most volume and efficiency stats on his side. Mahomes is quicker and has a higher football IQ.



Right, and I think that speaks to how dangerous Allen is as a runner.

Averaging a half a yard more per carry is a big deal.

You made my point in your first two paragraphs. ;)

DRM08 01-22-2021 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15499175)
I'm sure that takes into account the (assumed) insanely high percentage of Mahomes' runs that go for a 1st down. He is extremely cerebral, and I don't get that same vibe from Allen.

But sometimes you've gotta include the ol' eye test too. Allen is bigger, stronger, faster, and has most volume and efficiency stats on his side. Mahomes is quicker and has a higher football IQ.



Right, and I think that speaks to how dangerous Allen is as a runner.

Averaging a half a yard more per carry is a big deal.

Yes, I think that metric attempts to focus on how impactful each run might be. Mahomes is pretty clutch and smart. Picks and chooses the right moments to kill a defense with his legs, but 99% of the time he would prefer to throw it.

htismaqe 01-22-2021 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15499184)
Yes, I think that metric attempts to focus on how impactful each run might be. Mahomes is pretty clutch and smart. Picks and chooses the right moments to kill a defense with his legs, but 99% of the time he would prefer to throw it.

Exactly.

KChiefs1 01-22-2021 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15498813)
Some in the league think Allen has caught Mahomes: :hmmm:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...trick-mahomes/

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ThaVirus 01-22-2021 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15499181)
You made my point in your first two paragraphs. ;)

How? Allen is superior in nearly every way we'd measure them.

htismaqe 01-22-2021 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15499445)
How? Allen is superior in nearly every way we'd measure them.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
When Mahomes runs, it's almost always a big play. A big first down, a TD on 3rd and long.

He's surgical.

There's no comparison between him and Allen. Allen is big and runs hard. Patrick Mahomes is infinitely more clutch.


htismaqe 01-22-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15499358)
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TLO 01-24-2021 08:33 PM

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