4.02 :eek:

heh, been there. Might be there again this season. Got burned by the Chiefs yesterday.

3 things kept me off this game.

1) The Saints typically aren't as good on the road. Been that way for years. The just have trouble covering on the road.

2) Brees didn't play well last week, and there were already comments about his arm. More disturbing, they ran several trick plays with Hill throwing the ball in that game early.

3) Michael Thomas being out.

So even though everything on paper said the Saints would win and should cover, my gut said stay away.

Alex at least had an occasional 25 yard pass with some heat on it.

I’m not even sure Brees could do that at this point. It’s hard to watch.

It sounds to me like your gut said to bet the Raiders. I was pretty confident in this one with Brees not having his security blanket. I thought it would be a little lower scoring from the Raiders but still viewed that as favoring a Raiders cover.

Yeah, but I have a rule: never bet on the Raiders. Been screwed too many times. I have the same rule about the Panthers actually. It's a pair of rules I write in very large black Sharpie on the front of every season's new wager notebook.

Brees sucked tonight.

He made the fatal mistake many athletes do: he decided to play one more year longer than his body is allowing him too. He ain't got it anymore.

His throws for the most part were awful.

FWIW, Carr's weren't much better for a guy much younger

The ****? Went to bed at half and the Raiders won... These dudes actually legit or is there another story?

You're right. 300 yards, 3 tds, and 74% completion percentage is pretty awful :thumb:

Ill take the one playing with the best qb in the league.

A lot of help from the Saints, but I don't think it can be denied that it was a decisive victory for the Fade. They looked competent and confident. They have a killer running game and a great tight end, and Carr did not look rattled or frightened of anything.

I'm surprised. The Raiders look pretty good. So far.

The Raiders aren't all that. Just like last year.

The Saints are built to fast break. When they can't do that, things get dicey.

The Raiders pounded them on the ground, especially late, which is the Saints' kryptonite.

Furthermore, Brees missed some WIDE open throws. He's obviously just done.

Some people will call it a conspiracy, or poor officiating or whatever, but the Saints also had a sloppy game and had over a dozen penalties, most of them 10 yards or more.

The Raiders are an 8-8 team at best.

Why can't Brady start looking like total shit.

Bro, we have Mahomes. Brady is an afterthought for us now. And believe me, his time is coming. But it’s inconsequential to us!

Perhaps. But they could give the Chiefs some problems. Its not like they dont have any talent. There is definitely talent there.

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