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bobbything 01-02-2022 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 16049573)
If it was just shitty officiating we would’ve benefited at some point in the second half.

The only call I remember benefiting from was the PI against Kelce early in the game. If we are keeping score on bad calls, they got the better end of that stick 10-1.

That said, if we had safety help on Chase, we likely are bitching about the officials after a win.

GloryDayz 01-02-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 16049438)
I'm usually not one to call out the refs cause I think they have a very hard job (pro football is insanely fast and so much is going on that they need to pay attention to in only a matter of seconds) but holy crap that bs call cost the Chiefs the game and shouldn't have been called. No way should the game have been decided by the refs imo. Oh well on to the next one

But easy enough to be handled by part-timers. Just sayin...

smithandrew051 01-02-2022 08:52 PM

Whether the refs are bad by design or they’re just bad at their jobs doesn’t really matter. The result is the same, and we’ll all keep watching.

Give it a few days and we’ll be ready to get hurt again.

eDave 01-02-2022 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 16049585)
That said, if we had safety help on Chase, we likely are botching about the officials after a win.

Stop it. Without a level playing field, nothing else matters.

GloryDayz 01-02-2022 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Maslowski (Post 16049448)
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not a false start, and neither was Burrow's that got KC an offsides flag instead

Wait, what?

Oh I get it, that fell under the "at that moment we decided to let them play" heading...

TomBarndtsTwin 01-02-2022 08:59 PM

I wouldn’t say the NFL ‘rigs games’, per say.

I would say there was a LOT of questionable officiating at the end of that game (all which seemed to work in the Bengals favor) and also the ‘hold’ on the Pringle return that had nothing to do with the play. Yeah, it was technically a hold, but you could call a hold like that literally on every play. The refs usually swallow their whistle their and this time they chose not to and I honestly believe it was because they were trying to keep the game ‘close’ going into the second half. NFL didn’t want a blowout in the first half, which is what it would have been had that TD counted.

So ‘rigged’ ? No. Outcome ‘influenced’ heavily by officials? Most definitely.

Dartgod 01-02-2022 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16049607)
I wouldn’t say the NFL ‘rigs games’, per say.

I would say there was a LOT of questionable officiating at the end of that game (all which seemed to work in the Bengals favor) and also the ‘hold’ on the Pringle return that had nothing to do with the play. Yeah, it was technically a hold, but you could call a hold like that literally on every play. The refs usually swallow their whistle their and this time they chose not to and I honestly believe it was because they were trying to keep the game ‘close’ going into the second half. NFL didn’t want a blowout in the first half, which is what it would have been had that TD counted.

So ‘rigged’ ? No. Outcome ‘influenced’ heavily by officials? Most definitely.

How often do refs really decide to "swallow their whistle" on Chiefs kick returns? We get flagged frequently on those.

eDave 01-02-2022 09:01 PM

Influencing is rigging. I don't understand how some of you are trying to blur the line here.

PHOG 01-02-2022 09:02 PM

Definition of rigged
1: manipulated or controlled by deceptive or dishonest means

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rigged

PunkinDrublic 01-02-2022 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 16049585)
The only call I remember benefiting from was the PI against Kelce early in the game. If we are keeping score on bad calls, they got the better end of that stick 10-1.

That said, if we had safety help on Chase, we likely are bitching about the officials after a win.

One team is allowed do over after do over when they don’t convert and the other gets a bogus holding call that puts them in a very difficult 3rd and long situation. We scored 3 points in the second half in large part because our possessions were limited due to one sided officiating extending the bengals drives.

I don’t believe in things being rigged but there’s no question that one sided officiating swung the momentum of that game.

GloryDayz 01-02-2022 09:06 PM

I think there's a substantive difference between rigging a game and influencing the outcome of a game. I think the NFL (the corporation) does what it can do, subtly, to increase profits.

Bearcat 01-02-2022 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 16049614)
Influencing is rigging. I don't understand how some of you are trying to blur the line here.

I don't think that's entirely true.

If the NFL tells the refs to crack down on shenanigans during the SB because they don't want the same chippy stuff as the AFCCG, and the refs completely botch their instructions.... I would certainly say the NFL influenced the game, but wouldn't necessarily say they rigged the game. Of course, if they handed down those instructions with any intention of changing the outcome of the game, then it's influencing and rigging.

And that's what most of the debate comes down to.... those who think it's a relatively wide spread effort with refs -- and some even say players -- versus a situation like I mentioned.

And 99% of the time, questions about how the NFL keeps it all a secret and so forth are completely ignored by those who believe it.... and the other 1% it's vague bullshit that never really answers anything.

eDave 01-02-2022 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 16049624)
I think there's a substantive difference between rigging a game and influencing the outcome of a game. I think the NFL (the corporation) does what it can do, subtly, to increase profits.

It's the same ****ing thing. ****!

stevieray 01-02-2022 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 16049551)
Yea...it's pretty obvious that the game is rigged and has been for a long time. I still remember watching Tamba being damn near put in a choke hold multiple times a game, but somehow never getting the flag.

0h man..it was unreal how much they allowed him to be held.

smithandrew051 01-02-2022 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16049628)
0h man..it was unreal how much they allowed him to be held.

He got clotheslined more than a jobber against Bradshaw in his Acolytes days


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