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DRM08 01-22-2024 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17357721)
He went through that stretch again this year where he would drift back in that same scenario instead of stepping up. His pocket presence is so much better the last 3-4 games.

He needs to stay locked in and focused. The drifting stuff should be used in rare situations. He had one awesome TD to Hardman against Baltimore a few years ago where he did the drifting thing against heavy blitz. Torched them on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxmzugJRRVk

smithandrew051 01-22-2024 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17357732)
It's not about throwing in the towel and obviously not related to the players mindset at all... and IMO, not about getting hurt, but simply about expectations as a fan.

The simple truth is they aren't winning the SB 100% of the time and repeating is incredibly difficult... losing this weekend doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, I guess is the point.

We aren't left with "why the **** can't they beat the Bengals" (had they lost last year) or "shit, they've hosted 5 AFCCGs and lost 3 of them".

And at the very least, it just means they aren't the clear favorite this year, which is going to happen sometimes. If they had been scoring 30ppg all year with this defense, we'd all be expecting another SB, because how the hell could we not... well, they aren't so I'm not... that's really it for me.

Agree. My “house money” talk is about my feeling as a fan.

I hope the team doesn’t feel that way for a second. I want them going in expecting to win, not just being happy to make it this far.

Bearcat 01-22-2024 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17357721)
He went through that stretch again this year where he would drift back in that same scenario instead of stepping up. His pocket presence is so much better the last 3-4 games.

I wonder if he gets in his own head about working on things in the regular season, trying to force himself to do things a certain way and trying to get guys involved, etc... and then the playoffs hit and he just goes and plays football.

Given they obviously use the regular season as one long preseason.

Whogotitbetter 01-22-2024 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17357712)
What. How many first round picks has Baltimore invested in their receivers?

You have flowers, Bateman, obj, agholor ,duvernet
You have likely, Andrews
Dalvin cook is their new third string running back.
I don't think I would take the bills weapons over the Ravens out of hand.

Since draft position matters all your top 10 wrs are first rounders? that's makes no logical stance where they were drafted, what round was puka drafted? obj is washed, bateman is jag, zay is solid, andrews is all pro, likely is solid, but you're just listing names, James cook is pro bowl rb 1300 scrimmage yards,Shakir is a stud, diggs is an all pro, kincaid is already one of the best tight ends in the league and better then likely, Andrews is elite, but he didn't have that. Both are medicore, but lamar is a 2x mvp and He can elevate a team, meanwhile joe brady by his playcalling acknowledged he had weapons and made Josh a game manager.

tredadda 01-22-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17357699)
I’ve seen some folks floating that “it’s house money” now for KC, or that if they lose no biggie Baltimore is too good to care

Guys, if you think the Chiefs are going to lose and predict such, that’s perfectly acceptable. But for the love of God, stay the **** out of here with this “house money” bullshit. No year with Mahomes is wasted or taken for granted. We are in this position all the sudden because of their championship DNA. And damn it, we aren’t throwing in the towel right now like a bunch of pussies just because some fans seem scared to get hurt.

Luckily the team isn’t thinking that way whatsoever, we can rest assured they believe they are repeating as world champs.

I think what most people mean by this is that KC is not the favorite. The pressure for them to win is not like it is for other teams. KC has been there and done that, so they know what it takes to win. Buffalo had the pressure of trying to beat KC, especially with them finally getting a chance to do it at home.

Now Baltimore has it as they also get KC at home and Jackson has to deal with the pressure of beating the Chiefs and Mahomes. KC is the hunter right now vs the hunted. That is a much better position to be in.

dirk digler 01-22-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17357673)
Lamar doesn't scare me like Josh.

He's not throwing a seed 40 yards down the field into a breadbox.

Josh terrifies me. And you could tell from the gameplan the Chiefs respect him a lot more than they've ever respected Lamar.

His passing ability doesn't scare me but definitely his running does.

Gary Cooper 01-22-2024 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Whogotitbetter (Post 17357654)
Disagree on this one, too much excuses for allen, lamar was missing his #1 target and 2 best running backs and still elevated his team, while Josh had weapons like diggs/kincaid/cook/davis and a top o-line. All Lamar has is a better defense, And I don't know what games you've been watching but he has to be special for them to win games, unlike allen who joe brady has been game managing in those games they won.

The last game I watched, the Ravens gave up 3 points to Houston's offense. They would have won that game with Kyle Boller at QB.

RunKC 01-22-2024 05:05 PM

Spags copied Fangio's cover 2 shell blueprint that made Mahomes struggle in 2021. 2 deep, cut off the deep pass and force the QB to make long drives and not make mistakes.

Allen made the plays in the red zone 2X to Shakir but never at any other moment. I bet he does the same thing to Lamar.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> gameplan was perfectly executed. Bend but dont break. <a href="https://twitter.com/Bills?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bills</a> had 0 explosive plays. They were not going to get beat deep. Forced a lot of checkdowns and scrambles and got the most important prize. The W. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/7MEq5CRH1X">pic.twitter.com/7MEq5CRH1X</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1749461468892803316?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

InChiefsHeaven 01-22-2024 05:10 PM

I feel like the Ravens are like the Chiefs when we beat the Texans back in 2015. That was the Texans. These are the Chiefs. No reason for us to be afraid.

Doesn't mean we can't lose, but I firmly believe we will win. If I'm wrong...meh. It happens. But I just think this team is clicking and in full playoff mode...and they go to the Superbowl at least half the time they go to the playoffs...

No reason to believe we can't win this game.

Hammock Parties 01-22-2024 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17357791)
Spags copied Fangio's cover 2 shell blueprint that made Mahomes struggle in 2021. 2 deep, cut off the deep pass and force the QB to make long drives and not make mistakes.

Allen made the plays in the red zone 2X to Shakir but never at any other moment. I bet he does the same thing to Lamar.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> gameplan was perfectly executed. Bend but dont break. <a href="https://twitter.com/Bills?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bills</a> had 0 explosive plays. They were not going to get beat deep. Forced a lot of checkdowns and scrambles and got the most important prize. The W. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/7MEq5CRH1X">pic.twitter.com/7MEq5CRH1X</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1749461468892803316?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No way.

You don't defend them the same.

You're single high all day because Lamar can't throw the ball outside the numbers well.

Josh does that in his sleep.

TheGuardian 01-22-2024 05:29 PM

Lamar can't throw outside. It's all the crossing stuff, or broken plays.

But the strength of the defense is the secondary. And we cannot play Smith man to man because he will eat us alive running. Josh is a big bruiser but Lamar is dynamic and that is way way way harder to contain.

The best game I can remember where someone did this, was Philly against Atlanta the year the Vick was crushing everyone similarly.

They played a mush rush, and kept the lanes closed down, and forced Vick to pass. And he couldn't. I need to go find that game now....

carcosa 01-22-2024 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17357732)
It's not about throwing in the towel and obviously not related to the players mindset at all... and IMO, not about getting hurt, but simply about expectations as a fan.

The simple truth is they aren't winning the SB 100% of the time and repeating is incredibly difficult... losing this weekend doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, I guess is the point.

We aren't left with "why the **** can't they beat the Bengals" (had they lost last year) or "shit, they've hosted 5 AFCCGs and lost 3 of them".

And at the very least, it just means they aren't the clear favorite this year, which is going to happen sometimes. If they had been scoring 30ppg all year with this defense, we'd all be expecting another SB, because how the hell could we not... well, they aren't so I'm not... that's really it for me.

Exactly where I'm at. I want another Lombardi, I want ALL the Lombardis, but I just know that I won't be devastated if it doesn't come to pass this year. Still ticked and/or disappointed, I'm sure, but not devastated.

And if it does happen, WHICH TBH IT WILL??? OH BABY

TheGuardian 01-22-2024 05:32 PM

Here's the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B20v...l=JamieJohnson

Philly held the Falcons to 3 points, Vick to 30 yards rushing and two picks. No tuddies.

Lamar is very similar to Vick in his prime and both guys really wait for lanes if the first 1-2 reads aren't there.

So I'm really interested to see how Spags cooks this one up.

New World Order 01-22-2024 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17357791)
Spags copied Fangio's cover 2 shell blueprint that made Mahomes struggle in 2021. 2 deep, cut off the deep pass and force the QB to make long drives and not make mistakes.

Allen made the plays in the red zone 2X to Shakir but never at any other moment. I bet he does the same thing to Lamar.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> gameplan was perfectly executed. Bend but dont break. <a href="https://twitter.com/Bills?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bills</a> had 0 explosive plays. They were not going to get beat deep. Forced a lot of checkdowns and scrambles and got the most important prize. The W. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/7MEq5CRH1X">pic.twitter.com/7MEq5CRH1X</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1749461468892803316?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ravens are going to run all over us if we do that

seamonster 01-22-2024 05:51 PM

Local baltimore radio were joking on the Chiefs. Very confident in a blowout.. They seem to think they've already won the SB and it's just a formality. Bizarre coming from a franchise that's 2-3 in the playoffs with Lamar compared to a team with Mahomes (13-3). Somebody needs to send the Chiefs clips of these clowns.


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