They already have two RBs. Carson and Penny.

Because he's good? And they can extend him if they want to?

Earl Thomas for the Guinness record trophy for loudest outdoor stadium.

Meh.

:clap::clap:

Probably, but he looks like a hobo and it's not like he's wearing his Seahawks jersey or "SIGN ME CHIEFS" sandwich board. I wouldn't put any stock in no pictures being taken. But then I wouldn't put any stock in any of these dumbass tweets and emails from sociopaths who live fantasy lives on the internet.

Something we can agree on, the hyperbole over this is insane.

SOLD!

Those two guys were basically rentals to get us over the hump and it worked out great. ET would need an extension, meaning we would be stuck with him until retirement age-lol

And then you have Berry with a bum heal hogging cap space. Chiefs would be allocating a Lot of resources to the Safty position. And don't forget Sorensen, who the should have cut getting. Better hope ET stays healthy, that would be a boatload of cap space sitting on the bench.

No it just fixes our weakest link, and that’s pretty good.

No hyperbole.

This offense is good enough to win a Super Bowl.

Right now, the defense is dangerously close to the line between "can" and "can't".

Earl Thomas moves the needle SIGNIFICANTLY into the "can" area.

There are certainly no guarantees, regardless of whether or not it gets done. But you simply can't deny the impact it could potentially have.

Right.

KC, with Thomas and Berry, goes from a bottom 3 safety duo to probably #1.

And when you’re constantly playing with leads, that’s huge.

It sure would suck to be "stuck" with the best safety in football...

I'm alright if that's the price, a 2nd and a 5th.
There are some things you can take off the books next year to make it work. Thomas' abilities would probably age well. And while I think Berry's a tremendous player when healthy and an excellent human, at some point he's got to play or you cut him.

Without a Best Buy sighting, it is hard to believe he was here. :)

I wish we could have had both Berry and Thomas in their prime.

That would be sex

Obviously. It's just not a guarantee one way or the other.

Yup and alot of people are getting their hopes up. Also the NFL isn't MLB, very rarely do mid-season trades work out that year.

Your draft picks in 2019 in that situation:

1st
3rd
6th
7th

That's it.

Theres no guarantees when you're dealing with a single elimination playoff. I've seen KU lose to Northern Iowa, MU lose to whoever in the first round and crazy shit.

Stack the deck with the best odds and go from there.

htis and I may disagree about how to go about that over the long haul, but Earl Thomas def increases your odds. He's a really ****ing good football player.

Add a 2nd round pick in because we have two of them.

We have 2 2nds next year.

n/m

We have two 2s, leaving one.

Oh and take away that 7th.

So we'd actually have.

1st
2nd
3rd
6th

Oh well. Not like the roster is going to see much turnover at all next season anyways.

They used their 4th on Ragland and if they use a 2nd and 5th on Earl Thomas, ****ing awesome.

Do you mean Berry, yeah we are stuck with him. That contract is iron ****ing clad. His agent should go into the sports agent HOF on this contract alone.

So if we do get ET at 48 more million, that is a Huge risk.

But... if it pays off- having E and E Inc. fully healthy back there would be amazing and go a long way in fixing this defense.

As long as we don't cough up a 1st rounder, I think it would be worth a chance. Our D. can't get any worse.

A 2nd and 5th for Thomas is fine. The roster is loaded on one side and Thomas would help greatly on the other side.

I'd give up the 1st any day. Not impressed with Dee Ford and he's the best analog we have.

there are NO guarantees - aside from simply tooling NFL anus' - but - going from that - to tooling NFL team's butts with a ginormous double-donged black dildo - there's your guarantee.

Instead of a 2nd and a 5th this year, do a 2nd in 2019 and a 4th in 2020.

Xavier Williams and Orlando Scandrick.

Veach is going to need to find more solid players like this.

Getting Thomas for a 2nd still sets KC up nicely in the beginning of the draft next year. Make this deal immediately Veach

I forgot about the 2 2nds.

I will also say that we have a 7th -- we swapped 7ths with the 9ers.

1st
2nd
3rd
6th
7th

Still not a great haul. We'll have to trade down from that 3rd or 2nd to accumulate more Day Two action.

:eek:

This thread just got freaky.

**** it. like the 4th and 5th are worth more than a 1, 2, and 3? We don't need projects, we need solid football players. (yes I know, Tyreek and Hunt, blah, blah blah. I'd still rather have a 1, 2, and 3 than two 4ths and 3 6's or some such shit.)

Totally agree. This defense needs playmakers in a bad way. Try to trade a 2nd and 4th or 5th for Thomas, leaving us with 1, 2, and 3. The rest of it is fodder for more trades.

I am sure that is what the Seahags are wanting.

If ET plays lights out for us, that #32 pick in the 1st round won't sting too bad. :)

Trade Breeland Speaks for a 4th or 5th rd pick

Yeah, I don't care about a pick after round 4. They're nice if they pan out obviously, but the chances aren't just very good.

Man, I mean sure, I'd love to have a 4th and 5th, but you can essentially get those guys as UDFA. Whats the real difference between a 5th and an UDFA?

That late rounds have been good for us- it is the 2 round we keep taking longshot prospects. :shake:

Then you take that 2nd round pick and use it to trade up in the 1st for the guy that you want.

That's true.

Whether they trade for Thomas or not, it won't matter if they keep blowing the 2nd and 3rd rounders.

It's ****ing awful. Stop taking projects there like Kpass. Stop taking good football players and putting them at different positions.

Seriously, Speaks was a good football player at Ole Miss. He wasn't a blue chip guy, but he was just a good solid football player on the DL. So lets draft him and make him stand up and do something he's never done.

:clap:

We aren’t trading for Earl Thomas.

I just hate that.

The teams that consistently draft well don't do it because they take better players. Theres no secret formula.

Take guys and ask them to do what they're good at and develop them to do the rest along the way.

Maybe I'm oversimplifying it or something. It just doesn't seem like rocket surgery.

The NFL is filled with guys who all want to look smarter than everyone else. Sometimes it works.....more of then than not though....it doesn't.

Look...I just want to have the chance to moon some of you assholes that night during the Super Bowl celebration down at the P&L district, and I know there’s a lot better chance of it happening with Thomas...so for that reason, just make it work Veach.

Maybe that's true.

I get looking at what can translate and all. But hell, look how long it's taken them to do it with QB's. Finally that's getting into the league and holy shit, it works. It just doesn't seem like it's that hard to figure out.

Eric Murray was a corner in college, pretty good one. Lets draft him to play safety. Ok, I mean I get it. You don't think he has the foot speed or whatever. Fine.

I get it. I also understand development isn't always a linear line. Maybe he figures it out and plays better. I think he was better against SF than before but he's still having issues.

Yeah, that would be awesome.

I know the Royals parade in KC was crazy and KC loves the Royals.

But if the Chiefs won one, I dunno. IMO, it would be crazier.

Thanks for the update.

Probably not. It'd be nice, though.

Philly just lost a safety for the season...more competition enters the fray....grumble grumble harrumph

only Siths speak in absolutes so **** off you dirty bastard

Maybe that’s how our d will improve...all the other teams will keep losing players to injury and come down to our level. ��

Dude, they're currently sitting at 20 million over the cap next season.

Lol...philly fans are worse than us. They think Thomas to them is basically a done deal.

Less than 400 posts to go before Thomas signs! LET'S GO CP!

**** it, do the trade. Find a way to move on from Berry ASAP, maybe with an injury settlement. Thomas can be his replacement for the next 4 years.

I'm not sure why Berry would want to do an injury settlement.

GOOD NEWS!
 

OR...

keep them both since we have the $?

**** yeah! Done deal.

Bump.

Take one down..Pass it around.
373 posts to go on the wall

Nice handbag.

OVERDRIVE gang. We can't fail Earl like we did Bashaud and his foot aids.

More from Dane -

The Chiefs are trying to extend ET's contract another 3 years and fit him under the cap.

Now again, please take this with a grain of salt. I don't doubt my agent friend, nor his agent friends that passed this info on, but I can't verify the veracity of the report. It could be "Agent Speak", it could be that Earl's agent is trying to jack up the monetary compensation or it could be that Earl's asking far too much in monetary compensation from the Chiefs because he really wants to go to Dallas. I don't know. But I thought I'd at least pass the info on".

In.

2 too many.

To the ship?

I don't know why I find this stuff so hilarious but I do.

.hey SR...

tell Dane that no on CP gIves a **** about what he has to say.

For a reason.

And you can quote me on that.

This is true - IN

Speak for yourself, bro. This is about Earl Thomas!

Had to modify my Twitter search from “earl thomas” to “earl Thomas Chiefs.” It hasn’t even been an hour and the entitlement of philly fans has me wanting to gouge my eyes out.

There was like a dozen comments about some country singer in the Mahomes thread. Granted, I doubt Earl wants to read about that crap in his thread, but this is the kind of filler we need gang. 3k isn't going to write itself. Any giant shits this morning? Earl sightings?

I couldn't possibly buy this horseshit any less. If there's genuine interest and a stumbling block, it's bound to be Seattle's asking price. If we could get past that, we'd give ET a shorter Berry/top 1 safety contract in an instant and have him in here getting him ready to play.

Did Earl Thomas show up to practice today?!?