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penguinz 09-17-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15836415)
I have a strong feeling that Clyde is going to make a lot of these posters look foolish by season's end.

Exactly, All the posters that think he is going to be well above avg.

louie aguiar 09-17-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15836464)
I don’t know about foolish.

He’s better than he was against the Browns. But I don’t think he’s ever going to ‘special’

He’s a decent back.

This is where I'm at. I think his ceiling is an average-ish starting running back in the NFL. Which is fine if he was a 4th or 5th round pick.

We've been spoiled by running backs in KC. We went from Priest to LJ to Jamaal to Kareem.

louie aguiar 09-19-2021 09:19 PM

Welp

The Franchise 09-19-2021 09:20 PM

Waste of a 1st round pick.

louie aguiar 09-19-2021 09:21 PM

I can’t think of a single thing he does particularly well. Undrafted tyson Williams outperformed him tonight.

-King- 09-19-2021 09:23 PM

He's a BAD running back. The worst we've had in more than 2 decades. And he's the one we invested the most in

stumppy 09-19-2021 09:23 PM

I've had a gut full of this little mother****er

SupDock 09-19-2021 09:23 PM

He was in between the tackles and a tickle dislodged that ball. It’s not like he was even hit hard.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:24 PM

**** him he lost a game mixed with not being explosive and being slow, great ****ing pick.

stumppy 09-19-2021 09:24 PM

They have to see it, he ain't worth a shit. ****

Sassy Squatch 09-19-2021 09:24 PM

Sure picked the best time to do that.

notorious 09-19-2021 09:24 PM

I don't even think he's JAG.

Iconic 09-19-2021 09:24 PM

Literally **** this first round reach of a pick with an anti-freeze doused cactus that has the next strain of COVID on it

Darwin was a 6th rounder and arguably just as serviceable bitch

Red Dawg 09-19-2021 09:25 PM

Why the hell did we draft an RB in round one?

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15843921)
I don't even think he's JAG.

There's just no natural talent, no burst, no gear. How is this a 1?

kc rush 09-19-2021 09:25 PM

Wasted pick

carcosa 09-19-2021 09:25 PM

Cut his ass

Bump 09-19-2021 09:25 PM

this guy was a bad pick. Just bench him, cut your losses.

Is Gore still on the practice squad? Bring him up. Give McKinnon a chance for goodness sakes.

SupDock 09-19-2021 09:25 PM

The ball was hardly even touched. How the **** do you fumble there. The only thing you need to do is hold onto the ****ing ball.

TEX 09-19-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15843849)
I can’t think of a single thing he does particularly well. Undrafted tyson Williams outperformed him tonight.

He fumbled at the worst time quite well. Glad I called him a BUST before the game. He proved it.

kcpasco 09-19-2021 09:26 PM

**** him

Wisconsin_Chief 09-19-2021 09:26 PM

Literal trash. How the hell did Veach miss so badly on this one?

TEX 09-19-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 15843949)
The ball was hardly even touched. How the **** do you fumble there. The only thing you need to do is hold onto the ****ing ball.

Yep. He's good at just slamming into the line and falling down, he should have just done that.

Bump 09-19-2021 09:27 PM

just don't be like "oh we spent a 1st round pick on him, gonna ride that train no matter what"

cut your losses, the dude is too small and too slow and doesn't break tackles and fumbles in game winning drives.

Trying to make it happen for him cost us the game, handing it off to him every 1st down killed drives.

DrRyan 09-19-2021 09:27 PM

Can we start a Gruden-esque count down until cut clock? Literally no chance he is on the roster unless he is a high pick.

TEX 09-19-2021 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15843962)
Literal trash. How the hell did Veach miss so badly on this one?

Like I've been saying since we drafted him, too small and too slow for the nfl.

-King- 09-19-2021 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 15843941)
this guy was a bad pick. Just bench him, cut your losses.

Is Gore still on the practice squad? Bring him up. Give McKinnon a chance for goodness sakes.

McKinnon has 0 carries in 2 games. What the ****?!?! Someone make that make sense to me

Iconic 09-19-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15843962)
Literal trash. How the hell did Veach miss so badly on this one?

I like Veach but yeah... RBs have no place being picked in the first round

Redbled 09-19-2021 09:28 PM

No idea why McKinnon isn't getting touches. I'd like to see Gore get a shot. CEH offers nothing and then offers this.......

KCUnited 09-19-2021 09:29 PM

Seriously thought quicksand was some made up phenomenon from my childhood until seeing CEH tote the rock tonight.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:30 PM

The other teams QB has better RB instincts.

KCUnited 09-19-2021 09:30 PM

Trade back out of every first round please.

DTVietnam 09-19-2021 09:30 PM

horrid ending but this game is on the D...

chiefzilla1501 09-19-2021 09:31 PM

I try not to overreact with players.

But my God he shat the bed. First by not doing jackshit when the ravens were daring us to run. Then not putting two damn hands on the ball.

I don't care where he was picked in the draft. Give gore a shot until CEH gets his head out of his ass and can actually see a running lane for a change.

TEX 09-19-2021 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 15843941)
this guy was a bad pick. Just bench him, cut your losses.

Is Gore still on the practice squad? Bring him up. Give McKinnon a chance for goodness sakes.

Exactly the case. Don't double down on that bad pick, by trying to prove he's something other than a bad pick. Too small and too slow and no vision
Great college back, but even then he was on one of the best college teams in history. He's a liability in the NFL.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-19-2021 09:32 PM

If Bell goes on IR I'd call up Gore.

kcpasco 09-19-2021 09:33 PM

Done with this turd. He’s just ok at times and sucks the majority of the time.

TwistedChief 09-19-2021 09:34 PM

I don't get it. He was supposed to be this big threat out of the backfield in our passing game. He's been absolutely none of that. The guy gets some looks in the flat but isn't being schemed to do anything special. And then he has completely lacked vision on so many of his runs and essentially just lost us a game.

I'm perplexed how a team with a passing offense as good as ours can't have a RB that feasts when teams are clearly gearing up to stop the pass.

You need JAG-minus player running the ball for that to make sense, no?

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:34 PM

This is why you don't take RBs that lack explosion with high picks.

He looks no better than UDFAs.

Papi 09-19-2021 09:35 PM

Should be 3rd string on the depth chart after last week. I miss Damien Williams.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15844062)
I don't get it. He was supposed to be this big threat out of the backfield in our passing game. He's been absolutely none of that. The guy gets some looks in the flat but isn't being schemed to do anything special. And then he has completely lacked vision on so many of his runs and essentially just lost us a game.

I'm perplexed how a team with a passing offense as good as ours can't have a RB that feasts when teams are clearly gearing up to stop the pass.

You need JAG-minus player running the ball for that to make sense, no?

They won't even play him in pass downs because they don't trust him to pick up blitzers.

notorious 09-19-2021 09:36 PM

3.2 yards a carry.

There are holes everywhere.

**** this guy.

Oh Snap 09-19-2021 09:36 PM

Just logged on to say **** Clyde and **** the horse he rode in on. You can't fumble the ball on the game winning drive. That is 100% on him. Hopefully Reid runs his legs off for costing us the game when it mattered.

The defense is a cluster****...**** them too. But this game is in the bag if that piece of shit from LSU keeps both hands on the ball. Cut his ass.

notorious 09-19-2021 09:38 PM

Darrell Williams is the better option.

Someone disagreed with me in the game thread. I wonder what he thinks now.

Chiefspants 09-19-2021 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844073)
This is why you don't take RBs that lack explosion with high picks.

He looks no better than UDFAs.

He looks worse

mr. tegu 09-19-2021 09:39 PM

All of his playing time now was earned in college. He has earned nothing at this level.

-King- 09-19-2021 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844017)
The other teams QB has better RB instincts.

The other teams QB is the best RB in the league tbf.

notorious 09-19-2021 09:40 PM

If the Chiefs cut him tomorrow, does a team pick him up?

He's shown very little.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:40 PM

A 1st round RB in his second year and he literally looks like one of the most untalented players in the league.

-King- 09-19-2021 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844098)
3.2 yards a carry.

There are holes everywhere.

**** this guy.

The O-line was perfect all around today. Great at run blocking last week. And he rewards them with that. Pitiful.

chiefzilla1501 09-19-2021 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15844062)
I don't get it. He was supposed to be this big threat out of the backfield in our passing game. He's been absolutely none of that. The guy gets some looks in the flat but isn't being schemed to do anything special. And then he has completely lacked vision on so many of his runs and essentially just lost us a game.

I'm perplexed how a team with a passing offense as good as ours can't have a RB that feasts when teams are clearly gearing up to stop the pass.

You need JAG-minus player running the ball for that to make sense, no?

Yeah it's perplexing two ways. Perplexing that hrs just not a good runner so far. Also perplexing that the best in the game at screens doesn't use him in the passing game.

dlphg9 09-19-2021 09:41 PM

In before Staylor screams at everyone.

But yeah he isn't good. Pisses me off that Darwin never got a ****ing shot. Pisses me off that we drafted him with a first and then you ****ing idiots down voted my post into oblivion over it. So **** you all too.

notorious 09-19-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15844145)
The O-line was perfect all around today. Great at run blocking last week. And he rewards them with that. Pitiful.

He never looks left.

It's happened time and time again where there is a MASSIVE hole a half step left and he runs right and piles into the back of the line.

****!!!!!

Bump 09-19-2021 09:42 PM

the sad thing is Butker probably could have hit a field goal from where he fumbled

notorious 09-19-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15844146)
Yeah it's perplexing two ways. Perplexing that hrs just not a good runner so far. Also perplexing that the best in the game at screens doesn't use him in the passing game.

Chiefs haven't used screens in years.

Andy has moved on.

Easy 6 09-19-2021 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844098)
3.2 yards a carry.

There are holes everywhere.

**** this guy.

Sad, we’re done here Mr Helarious

notorious 09-19-2021 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 15844164)
the sad thing is Butker probably could have hit a field goal from where he fumbled

Easily.

It was simply a time-killer run.

Prison Bitch 09-19-2021 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844122)
Darrell Williams is the better option.

Someone disagreed with me in the game thread. I wonder what he thinks now.

3 carries for -2 yards?

chiefzilla1501 09-19-2021 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844156)
He never looks left.

It's happened time and time again where there is a MASSIVE hole a half step left and he runs right and piles into the back of the line.

****!!!!!

Amazing how a guy who seems to just barrel into a running lane instead of waiting for it is also too damn slow to hit the hole. But that seems to be what we have right now.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15844199)
Amazing how a guy who seems to just barrel into a running lane instead of waiting for it is also too damn slow to hit the hole. But that seems to be what we have right now.

And he'll keep playing because of where he was picked.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-19-2021 09:46 PM

Blame the call that put him in position to fumble instead of letting 15 slice and dice to a chip shot. But yeah another unimpressive game...

Spott 09-19-2021 09:47 PM

This is what Paul Palmer was like, just with a much better team.

SupDock 09-19-2021 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15844208)
Blame the call that put him in position to fumble instead of letting 15 slice and dice to a chip shot. But yeah another unimpressive game...

The ball was ****ing tickled out. Absolutely inexcusable. You can’t blame Reid for that. It was a stupid call though.

Tribal Warfare 09-19-2021 09:48 PM

It's official outside of size CEH is nowhere near the Darren Sproles and MJD comparisons. He's average, and becomes careless at the worst time.

notorious 09-19-2021 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 15844213)
This is what Paul Palmer was like, just with a much better team.

Do you think I started that thread by chance? ;)

suzzer99 09-19-2021 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844207)
And he'll keep playing because of where he was picked.

Yeah we've got at least this year and next of trying to make him work before we give up on him. If he doesn't improve we are completely ****ed.

louie aguiar 09-19-2021 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14928613)
Stupid ass pick.

Have to give you credit. You called it right after the pick. Personally, I loved the pick when it happened. I still don’t get it. He doesn’t look like the same back I saw play at LSU.

New World Order 09-19-2021 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15844218)
It's official outside of size CEH is nowhere near the Darren Sproles and MJD comparisons. He's average, and becomes careless at the worst time.

He has no burst to turn 5 yard gains into 12 yard gains. 10 yard gains into house calls.

He’s just…too slow

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:50 PM

CEH=Rashad Penny.

New World Order 09-19-2021 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844231)
CEH=Rashad Penny.

Does penny have some speed? Maybe we could deal a 6th for him

notorious 09-19-2021 09:51 PM

Not blaming Reid. Not fumbling a ball is the most basic function a RB has to execute.

chiefzilla1501 09-19-2021 09:51 PM

The hardest pill to swallow is that as bad as CEH played we were still set up to win. How does he not have the situational awareness to put two hands on the ball. That's not playing bad. That's playing stupid.

dannybcaitlyn 09-19-2021 09:51 PM

The guy hasn’t looked the same after coming off that injury last year.

notorious 09-19-2021 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15844223)
Yeah we've got at least this year and next of trying to make him work before we give up on him. If he doesn't improve we are completely ****ed.

He isn't good at anything.

He doesn't pass the "eye" test.

SupDock 09-19-2021 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844238)
Not blaming Reid. Not fumbling a ball is the most basic function a RB has to execute.

I know I keep repeating myself, BUT HE WAS NOT EVEN HIT HARD.

How can you be that careless with the ball between the tackles in that situation.

KChiefs1 09-19-2021 09:52 PM

I don’t want to hear about how great Veach is after wasting a first round pick on this turd.


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RealSNR 09-19-2021 09:53 PM

I told everybody to just wait it out on Clyde and give him a chance, because it's not always the case that your RB is going to be great from day one and sometimes even they need time to develop.

Maybe he'll still get better. Maybe he'll figure it out. But we're going to have to find out later, because we can't be ****ing around waiting for this asshole to learn how to put two and two together when we're trying to ****ing win another Super Bowl. We have other players like that on this team, but there's a special place where those guys go. It's called the bench.

So hand it off to Darrell. Or McKinnon. ****, hand it off to ****ing Michael Burton for all I care. But let Clyde figure his shit out for awhile and get himself straight and don't put him on the ****ing field until he's ready.

And if that doesn't happen, then pull the plug and move the **** on just like we did with Hunt.

RealSNR 09-19-2021 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15844256)
I don’t want to hear about how great Veach is after wasting a first round pick on this turd.


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Do you think Veach wasted a 3rd round pick on Lucas Niang, though?

Spott 09-19-2021 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844221)
Do you think I started that thread by chance? ;)

Short, quick, and no vision. Neither should have been drafted anywhere near the first round.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15844256)
I don’t want to hear about how great Veach is after wasting a first round pick on this turd.


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He's kinda missed on alot of picks...

Sorensen plays over Thornhill, CEH blows, Hardman is an athlete more than a football player...


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