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RaidersOftheCellar 01-29-2025 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17943797)
Let's not beat around the bush, many aren't watching as closely because the team isn't as good as it used to be under Self in this era. It's really as simple as that. If they were playing great and up to their talent level, the NIL/transfer portal stuff wouldn't matter. But they're not. Self himself also appears to be mailing it in (there's literally no justification for an NBA player in Flory getting benched for someone as limited as KJ and on some level he must know that).

That's just normal, it's not like we all don't detach ourselves somewhat from our struggling teams. It's abundantly clear how the season is ending for this group despite having a significant amount of talent, so I'm not as emotionally invested myself. I do believe there are different roster iterations among this group of players that could work to contend, but I have no expectation that we'll see those at this point.
Let's call it what it is....a lot of KU fans are spoiled, entitled babies.

People are crying their eyes out over the unbearable fate of having to endure a 2 or 3 seed team. Let that sink in.

KCwolf 01-29-2025 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17943776)
I was just thinking about that while watching the game last night. ESPN plus, B12 expansion, NIL, all of those factor into how this is just not the same.

Plus, we have some players that are just limited and/or soft.
Charmin SOFT

Mr. Plow 01-29-2025 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17943905)
People are crying their eyes out over the unbearable fate of having to endure a 2 or 3 seed team. Let that sink in.
Who are these "people"? Nearest I can tell in here nobody has even mentioned seeding in the tourney. Although I haven't been following the thread during games much.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-29-2025 01:01 PM
Get rid of the transfer portal. Go back to sitting out a year unless your coach leaves/fired.

BWillie 01-29-2025 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17943797)
Let's not beat around the bush, many aren't watching as closely because the team isn't as good as it used to be under Self in this era. It's really as simple as that. If they were playing great and up to their talent level, the NIL/transfer portal stuff wouldn't matter. But they're not. Self himself also appears to be mailing it in (there's literally no justification for an NBA player in Flory getting benched for someone as limited as KJ and on some level he must know that).

That's just normal, it's not like we all don't detach ourselves somewhat from our struggling teams. It's abundantly clear how the season is ending for this group despite having a significant amount of talent, so I'm not as emotionally invested myself. I do believe there are different roster iterations among this group of players that could work to contend, but I have no expectation that we'll see those at this point.
I don't think that is it. This team is preseason #1 and I planned no trips around the team like I normally do. Years before I went to Champions Classic or Florida games.

George Liquor 01-29-2025 01:44 PM
I just saw this episode last year.

PHOG 01-29-2025 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17943198)
Didn't see any of the game. Let's see, we beat them down there 99-48, but up here at home it was 91-87. Sounds about right. What's wrong with Harris? (Or, what's right with Harris?)

Quote:
Kansas played without Dajuan Harris Jr., who hurt his ankle in practice. The Jayhawks could have used his experience, especially when their guards got into foul trouble. He's played in 159 games and had started the last 98 of them.
https://kuathletics.com/news/2025/1/...ucf-91-87.aspx

Ah, I see.

Ceej 01-29-2025 03:43 PM
Darryn Peterson, please save us, and our fandom. Thank you.

Amen.

cmh6476 01-29-2025 04:49 PM
I wonder if we'll start to see multi- year contacts for college players and if that would help with consistency.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-29-2025 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 17943926)
Who are these "people"? Nearest I can tell in here nobody has even mentioned seeding in the tourney. Although I haven't been following the thread during games much.
I'm saying this "struggling" team is likely a 2 or 3 seed come March. And I'm referring more to the whining that I see on KU forums. Incredible that fans could think they're entitled to a title favorite every single year of their existence.

Bearcat 01-29-2025 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17944363)
I'm saying this "struggling" team is likely a 2 or 3 seed come March. And I'm referring more to the whining that I see on KU forums. Incredible that fans could think they're entitled to a title favorite every single year of their existence.
Who’s saying that? There have been plenty of great KU teams that didn’t win a Natty, plenty of fun seasons that didn’t end as a 1 seed.

Yeah, make up some insane argument and suddenly others look dumb. :shrug:

DJay23 01-29-2025 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17944346)
I wonder if we'll start to see multi- year contacts for college players and if that would help with consistency.
Didn't Dickinson get a 2 year deal?

KC_Connection 01-29-2025 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 17944577)
Didn't Dickinson get a 2 year deal?
That's my understanding, 2/4M.

cmh6476 01-29-2025 11:39 PM
oh, well. Carry on.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-30-2025 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17944554)
Who’s saying that? There have been plenty of great KU teams that didn’t win a Natty, plenty of fun seasons that didn’t end as a 1 seed.

Yeah, make up some insane argument and suddenly others look dumb. :shrug:
Like I said, I'm referring mostly to KU forums, like Phog.net. Do you read that board?

Lzen 01-30-2025 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17943797)
Let's not beat around the bush, many aren't watching as closely because the team isn't as good as it used to be under Self in this era. It's really as simple as that. If they were playing great and up to their talent level, the NIL/transfer portal stuff wouldn't matter. But they're not. Self himself also appears to be mailing it in (there's literally no justification for an NBA player in Flory getting benched for someone as limited as KJ and on some level he must know that).

That's just normal, it's not like we all don't detach ourselves somewhat from our struggling teams. It's abundantly clear how the season is ending for this group despite having a significant amount of talent, so I'm not as emotionally invested myself. I do believe there are different roster iterations among this group of players that could work to contend, but I have no expectation that we'll see those at this point.
As for Self, I have wondered if he refuses to get really angry due to the heart issue a couple of years ago. He just doesn't show that extreme fire he used to have once in awhile.

Demonpenz 01-30-2025 09:27 AM
KJ with clutch free throws. Earns him more minutes baby

Lzen 01-30-2025 09:29 AM
I know KJ gets a lot of heat around here and most of it is usually justified. However, KJ was not the reason that KU struggled in this game. Actually, I thought KJ played well for what are his abilities. Flory should definitely start and get the bulk of the minutes. But I do think KJ has value in limited minutes.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-30-2025 09:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17944935)
I know KJ gets a lot of heat around here and most of it is usually justified. However, KJ was not the reason that KU struggled in this game. Actually, I thought KJ played well for what are his abilities. Flory should definitely start and get the bulk of the minutes. But I do think KJ has value in limited minutes.
I think people assume that UCF is terrible because KU blew them out last time, but they're not. That game was very unusual and I'm frankly not sure how KU pounded them as badly as they did. But UCF has been playing well and almost beat Houston recently.

RockChalk 01-30-2025 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17944935)
I know KJ gets a lot of heat around here and most of it is usually justified. However, KJ was not the reason that KU struggled in this game. Actually, I thought KJ played well for what are his abilities. Flory should definitely start and get the bulk of the minutes. But I do think KJ has value in limited minutes.
KJ was definitely not a "problem" on Tuesday.

It's Bill's obsession with him that's the problem. I listened to postgame driving back and in his interview with Gurley, he talked about KJ like he's a Wooden Award candidate. He'll be starting on Saturday, you can book it.

Lzen 01-30-2025 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 17944944)
KJ was definitely not a "problem" on Tuesday.

It's Bill's obsession with him that's the problem. I listened to postgame driving back and in his interview with Gurley, he talked about KJ like he's a Wooden Award candidate. He'll be starting on Saturday, you can book it.
Well, that's disappointing.

Mr. Plow 01-30-2025 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 17944944)
KJ was definitely not a "problem" on Tuesday.

It's Bill's obsession with him that's the problem. I listened to postgame driving back and in his interview with Gurley, he talked about KJ like he's a Wooden Award candidate. He'll be starting on Saturday, you can book it.
I hope not.

Pablo 01-30-2025 09:50 AM
This team just plays uninspired basketball. We all watched the chiefs tinker and look less than desirable at points this season, but of course they turn it on in the playoffs as is tradition.

Can this team do that? Certainly doesn’t feel that way. Like George said I watched this movie already last year. I think the frustration is realizing Bill looks to be losing his fastball. It’s been two decades of heat so I shouldn’t complain but it’s not enjoyable to watch most of the time

RockChalk 01-30-2025 10:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17944961)
This team just plays uninspired basketball. We all watched the chiefs tinker and look less than desirable at points this season, but of course they turn it on in the playoffs as is tradition.

Can this team do that? Certainly doesn’t feel that way. Like George said I watched this movie already last year. I think the frustration is realizing Bill looks to be losing his fastball. It’s been two decades of heat so I shouldn’t complain but it’s not enjoyable to watch most of the time
It's getting tough to motivate some of these kids and it's only getting worse. Many of them are making more money than the assistant coaches.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-30-2025 10:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17944961)
This team just plays uninspired basketball. We all watched the chiefs tinker and look less than desirable at points this season, but of course they turn it on in the playoffs as is tradition.

Can this team do that? Certainly doesn’t feel that way. Like George said I watched this movie already last year. I think the frustration is realizing Bill looks to be losing his fastball. It’s been two decades of heat so I shouldn’t complain but it’s not enjoyable to watch most of the time
We already know they can turn it on. They beat the most talented team in the country without their All American for the last 10+ minutes. Beat another team in the current top 10 convincingly. Beat a decent team by 50 on the road. Had Houston beaten 5 times before making dumb mental errors.

The inconsistency and weird substitution patterns are frustrating, but the team is capable of playing at a high level, and there's still plenty of time to improve.

If you'll remember, people weren't very high on the '22 team at this point in the season.

KC_Connection 01-30-2025 06:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KUbball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KUbball</a> guard Diggy Coit said even if KJ Adams has zero rebounds it feels like he has 25. His presence, Coit said, gives everyone on the court with him confidence and the belief that KU has one of the best athletes/defenders on the court.</p>&mdash; Matt Tait (@mctait) <a href="https://twitter.com/mctait/status/1885089182416330907?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Presence makes up for rebounding

BigRedChief 01-30-2025 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17945792)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KUbball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KUbball</a> guard Diggy Coit said even if KJ Adams has zero rebounds it feels like he has 25. His presence, Coit said, gives everyone on the court with him confidence and the belief that KU has one of the best athletes/defenders on the court.</p>&mdash; Matt Tait (@mctait) <a href="https://twitter.com/mctait/status/1885089182416330907?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Presence makes up for rebounding
WTF! :doh!:

Mr. Plow 01-31-2025 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17945792)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KUbball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KUbball</a> guard Diggy Coit said even if KJ Adams has zero rebounds it feels like he has 25. His presence, Coit said, gives everyone on the court with him confidence and the belief that KU has one of the best athletes/defenders on the court.</p>&mdash; Matt Tait (@mctait) <a href="https://twitter.com/mctait/status/1885089182416330907?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Presence makes up for rebounding
I'm starting to feel like this is some massive troll job by KU, Self, and the rest of the team.

Demonpenz 01-31-2025 09:54 AM
Rolling out KJ escobar like Ned yost Self

cmh6476 02-01-2025 02:59 PM
Lfg

SithCeNtZ 02-01-2025 03:11 PM
Iowa state clearly looking forward to our game is probably going to lose at home to kstate. Ouch.

ROYC75 02-01-2025 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 17947385)
Iowa state clearly looking forward to our game is probably going to lose at home to kstate. Ouch.
Go KsU

SithCeNtZ 02-01-2025 03:18 PM
So glad we got Harris back! 0-2 and the team has 1 point a minute so far! MVP!

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 03:19 PM
Time to get KJ in for his presence

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 17947385)
Iowa state clearly looking forward to our game is probably going to lose at home to kstate. Ouch.
KSU has been playing better over the past week, they’ll probably beat us next weekend too

ROYC75 02-01-2025 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17945792)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KUbball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KUbball</a> guard Diggy Coit said even if KJ Adams has zero rebounds it feels like he has 25. His presence, Coit said, gives everyone on the court with him confidence and the belief that KU has one of the best athletes/defenders on the court.</p>&mdash; Matt Tait (@mctait) <a href="https://twitter.com/mctait/status/1885089182416330907?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Presence makes up for rebounding
His presence on the bench usually gives all of us fans more confidence & belief!

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 03:22 PM
I’ve never seen a KU player make as many lazy passes as Zeke Mayo does btw

There’s never anything on any of them

cmh6476 02-01-2025 03:27 PM
I think we're playing pretty well Debbie downers.

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17947410)
I think we're playing pretty well Debbie downers.
Just wait for the last 20 seconds

Kiimo 02-01-2025 03:30 PM
It's 15-9 at their gym enjoy the ride

BWillie 02-01-2025 03:30 PM
I am so tired of this late start shit. I have ESPN News but I like to start watching 30 to 45 minutes in to avoid commercials them I'll be live by gametime.

cmh6476 02-01-2025 03:34 PM
What can we bitch about since that last T.O.?

Kiimo 02-01-2025 03:34 PM
Gosh it's like things work better when you hit 3s

Kiimo 02-01-2025 03:35 PM
lmao watching on ESPN News and goes straight to that Bills sad fest doc

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 03:36 PM
Love benching Flory after he makes great plays

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17947415)
I am so tired of this late start shit. I have ESPN News but I like to start watching 30 to 45 minutes in to avoid commercials them I'll be live by gametime.
Blame the SEC foulfests

BWillie 02-01-2025 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17947419)
lmao watching on ESPN News and goes straight to that Bills sad fest doc
I saw it's original air date was in 2015 and I was like well about time for another one. Wide right!

ROYC75 02-01-2025 03:39 PM
It would be great if TxT can pull the upset tonight in Houston!

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17947424)
I saw it's original air date was in 2015 and I was like well about time for another one. Wide right!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This guy is hilarious 😂 <a href="https://t.co/GKlDskNldb">pic.twitter.com/GKlDskNldb</a></p>&mdash; Lauren (@dogmomRN23) <a href="https://twitter.com/dogmomRN23/status/1885598470033010778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Saw this today

ROYC75 02-01-2025 03:43 PM
EXCITED?

Anybody here excited? He'll, I'm kicked back eating 🍿.

ROYC75 02-01-2025 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17947429)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This guy is hilarious 😂 <a href="https://t.co/GKlDskNldb">pic.twitter.com/GKlDskNldb</a></p>&mdash; Lauren (@dogmomRN23) <a href="https://twitter.com/dogmomRN23/status/1885598470033010778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Saw this today
That was pretty good!

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 03:46 PM
Fran blatantly trolling KU fans again on the broadcast

Monty 02-01-2025 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17947429)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This guy is hilarious 😂 <a href="https://t.co/GKlDskNldb">pic.twitter.com/GKlDskNldb</a></p>&mdash; Lauren (@dogmomRN23) <a href="https://twitter.com/dogmomRN23/status/1885598470033010778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Saw this today
ROFL ROFL

ROYC75 02-01-2025 03:48 PM
There's that presence!

GabyKeepsMeWarm 02-01-2025 03:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17947417)
What can we bitch about since that last T.O.?
Don't worry, KCC has it covered.

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17947440)
Don't worry, KCC has it covered.
Yep Diggy went under on an out of bounds screen and gave up an open three

Be better

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:05 PM
Fran trolling KU again

Kiimo 02-01-2025 04:08 PM
You probably don't need to let us know every time he does it

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17947460)
You probably don't need to let us know every time he does it
Didn't know pointing it out bothered you so much

I'll take it under advisement

Kiimo 02-01-2025 04:15 PM
Complaining a lot bothers me when we're beating Baylor on their court by double their score but hey if that's how you choose to cheer on your team in the most enjoyable way for you, go crazy

GabyKeepsMeWarm 02-01-2025 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17947472)
Complaining a lot bothers me when we're beating Baylor on their court by double their score but hey if that's how you choose to cheer on your team in the most enjoyable way for you, go crazy
You'll have to give him a break. He's just on his period. Unfortunately, his period lasts 365 days/year...

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17947472)
Complaining a lot bothers me when we're beating Baylor on their court by double their score but hey if that's how you choose to cheer on your team in the most enjoyable way for you, go crazy
Always nice to get lessons on how to be a good KU fan

Have any other tips other than not bitching about Fran?

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:24 PM
Can we complain about us completely no showing it to start the 2nd half to get Baylor right back in the game or is that not acceptable either

Demonpenz 02-01-2025 04:24 PM
KU big lead at half

ROYC75 02-01-2025 04:26 PM
We off to a blazing start the 2nd half, we getting lit up!

Kiimo 02-01-2025 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17947478)
Can we complain about us completely no showing it to start the 2nd half to get Baylor right back in the game or is that not acceptable either
I'm convinced you personally are the reason nobody posts in this thread. It's just going to be you alone in a room screaming about boxing out or shot fakes for eternity in purgatory if there's a just God

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17947482)
I'm convinced you personally are the reason nobody posts in this thread. It's just going to be you alone in a room screaming about boxing out or shot fakes for eternity in purgatory if there's a just God
You didn't answer the question

When is it okay to bitch about bad plays or Fran? Only when they're losing? When the opposing team is on a run? What is acceptable?

If you're gonna police this thread, let's understand the rules

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:35 PM
Zeke Mayo just floating around the court defensively

Not sure if we're allowed to point that out though, ask Kimo

CasselGotPeedOn 02-01-2025 04:35 PM
Incredibly predictable meltdown

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:36 PM
LMAO Harris misses 2 more FTs and then KJ doesn't even bother to guard the next position

Just an absolute collapse (if we're allowed to say it)

George Liquor 02-01-2025 04:38 PM
Lmfao this god damn team

CasselGotPeedOn 02-01-2025 04:38 PM
I dream about the day Bill isn't our coach anymore

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:38 PM
If any KU team could blow a 20 point lead on the road in 5 minutes, it was always gonna be this one

ROYC75 02-01-2025 04:38 PM
Here I almost left at halftime because, up so much!

Wasn't expecting us to stop playing! 🤪

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Liquor (Post 17947492)
Lmfao this god damn team
Don't say anything bad about them, wouldn't want to anger Kimo

Kiimo 02-01-2025 04:40 PM
Now when there's a reason to complain, you're complaining about me.


You're just the worst kind of fan. Bitching all the time and eventually when something bad happens you feel justified for whining earlier. I'm outta here you all have fun dealing with this guy

ROYC75 02-01-2025 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 17947493)
I dream about the day Bill isn't our coach anymore
WTH, it's not like the players have anything to do with their play?

KC_Connection 02-01-2025 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17947497)
Now when there's a reason to complain, you're complaining about me.


You're just the worst kind of fan. Bitching all the time and eventually when something bad happens you feel justified for whining earlier. I'm outta here you all have fun dealing with this guy
I'm complaining about you because you're sanctimoniously trying to police a game thread and looking like an absolute clown doing it considering the (predictable) collapse that is going on

Now you're bailing as soon as it gets rough for the team, again not a surprise either

cmh6476 02-01-2025 04:43 PM
Oof

George Liquor 02-01-2025 04:43 PM
These guys suck ass.


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