This right here is why he'll be suspended for eight games negotiated down to six IMO if there is any negotiation allowed. Reckless driving is one thing, but then causing a major accident and potentially killing people and then just walk away showing no concern wreaks sociopath.

Yeah it seems like he just needs to grow up a ton. Hopefully this is a big wake up call.

You better be scared shitless of #4. Who knows what he's done to be with that crew.

Swear I never once heard of any character issues for Rashee during the draft. All the criticism I heard was about him as a WR. Like what PFF were saying on YouTube at the time.

Exactly. Keyshawn said the red flags are why he went in the 2nd round, and that couldn't be further from the truth. It's bullshit.

$100 bet on the over under of 4 1/2...? The only reason he will be suspended at all is because he left and there were no serious injuries, with the worst being a few stitches in an eyelid. The NFL will look at this as a DUI since he left.

Dude, seriously GO **** YOURSELF.

That's why he is in better shape legally because he walked, although really bad optics. However, again, if you are going to walk, why not take your stuff. Again, guessing it was in the back.

Immediately after the wreck it was obvious no one had life threatening injuries just based on the damage to the cars. No excuse to leave, and they may have left anyway, but the vag bleeding righteousness put on a 23 year old making a really bad decision is crazy.

All true, but also this ****ing idiot was throwing the "sociopath" shit all around this thread earlier. He got pantsed by several posters and turtled up for a day or two. Now he's back and I wanted him to know he's still a POS.

Look, nobody wants the dude to be suspended, but I’m guessing the NFL makes an example of him. Hope I’m wrong, but honestly I’m kinda looking forward to winning some $$$.

You are full of shit and it's pathetic. There is NOTHING sociopathic about walking away. You can't say he had no concern, you have no possible idea of state of mind. If you were an actual shrink, you'd know that. It wasn't a major accident, it's actual a minor one. He didn't potentially kill anyone, you are going for the fear factor with that. There is a disputed minor injury....not exactly potentially killing. Grow up.

Look out, he’s going to come back with a random bible verse and wink emoji.;)

And while yes, it may fit the legal definition of a “hit and run”, they weren’t exactly running or fleeing away in a hurry from the scene.

They were moving slowly enough for people nearby to converse with them.

Hand waving it away as a kid making a couple goofs is equally crazy. Rashee pulled a real **** move. Full stop. Hopefully he learns his lesson going forward.

LMAO "minor accidents" don't completely shut down major highways for hours.

Exactly. Find me the dreaded 'character flags' being reported anywhere last season.

And trust me, if multiple teams had removed him from their draft boards over character, hacks like Benjamin Albright would be screaming it from the mountaintops last April. They jerk off to shit like that.

This is bullshit. It's a couple jilted GMs trying to polish whatever turd they drafted INSTEAD of Rice in the last first/early second. "Well you see, Ben - I actually drafted Slappy McDickerson in the first round instead of a top end WR because I knew he had character issues all along and I just neglected to mention this to you ever. At all. For a year."

****ing nonsense.

Isn't it nice when someone who is so religious is so quick to judge someone else?

That's a little ****ed up... If I had a bet on 5 or more games because I seriously thought the league was going to put the hammer down on Rice, I would be more than happy to pay $100 to be wrong...

Keyshawn might want to sit out the “character issues” conversation.

If they try and make an example out of every new case you will be giving guys 4 years suspension in no time.

No doubt, he had no concerns that were communicated at the time before or after the draft.

They do when police grandstand.

One accident can cause a chain reaction on major highways the 401 has seen 30-40 car pile ups starting with one fender bender.

Well, based on the video it shouldn't have been shut down for hours. My only guess is a Sat. night before Easter and light traffic so no urgency and/or having trouble finding tow trucks. Again, I've seen way worse accidents traveling in cities that the freeway is opened back up in an hour.

Some of you guys are total ****ing bundle of stickss, man

Or when the drivers of the two racers in question abandoned their vehicles before the cops got there? Maybe? Whatcha think there hun, would that maybe slow down the investigative process a wee tad or three?



Oh, and for whoever it was that doesn’t know his diction: it’s “ reeks,” not “wreaks,” dipstick. Get a dictionary.

Did Kareem Hunt get suspended for speeding and having pot and vodka in his car in 2020? If not, I’m not sure how you pop Rice if you are the NFL. Yeah it’s a bad look, I hope to hell he learned a lesson, but this is not domestic violence. This is not Andy Reid’s kid or Riggs either.

Or when the drivers of the two racers in question abandoned their vehicles before the cops got there? Maybe? Whatcha think there hun, would that maybe slow down the investigative process a wee tad or three?



Oh, and for whoever it was that doesn’t know his diction: it’s “ reeks,” not “wreaks,” genious. Get a dictionary.

Not more than a 20 minutes... If there was a fatality or a serious injury, sure, but none of the cars were horribly damaged, rolled or on their side.

Bird Law Expert is on the case.

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This happens once a week on the 290 in Chicago and probably every other major city

Don’t ever ****ing bag on Riggs bro. Him and Murtaugh were legit.

It also seems possible there was video evidence that was an absolute smoking gun.

or it was a financial decision so insurance would cover the damage and liability, while also creating goodwill with the DA.

Lol, no. There’s a multi-car accident pretty much every month on I-17S approaching the 101 here in north Phoenix and even in broad daylight it takes a couple hours for the cops to sort it out, without fatalities or missing drivers.


You think you’re ordering pizza or something?

A budding star WR crashes, a buddy grabs the "goodies", they all abandon ship and they walk down the highway? ROFL suuure

Outside of NFL WR, yeah

Which is irrelevant outside the media and NFL

This shit isn’t a blip on a cities radar outside of “professional athlete” involved

Wait... Chiefsshrink is a He? I always assumed that was a woman.

i don't see how he gets less games than willie got tbh. it'll probably be 8.

I said 6-8

Well that would explain all the damn wink emojis.

I hate to do this. We've never had a problem. But on behalf of all women, **** you.

I would be surprised if he got 2 not sure why people are pulling 8 games out if their ass .

Because it’s a ****ing hit and run

With no serious injuries. This isn’t a domestic violence case. It’ll be 2-4.

There's not a single credible thing in that Xeet pr whatever they call it now.

**** MVS.

Before I’d bring him back, I’d choose to take 2 WRs and work them in this year while Hollywood builds value for 2025 FA.

I’d even be happy if we ended up with 2 WRs in the first 4 picks.

That reads more like if he kept driving.

Rice did stop the vehicle.

There will be consequences to this, but being truthful allows the team to help him.

nah - I went through the statute in this thread somewhere like 3 days ago. that's the operative statute.

I honestly think that website kinda butchered it. That statutes easier to just read on its own and I think they gave a way to simple (and far less useful) read on it than mine was.

But of course I'd think that...

Willie Gay’s was domestic violence-related (even though that didn’t end up being his final charge), so that is more severe in the NFL’s perspective… violence against women.

(Hoping I’m not wasting my time and that someone else hasn’t already posted this)

History of NFL suspensions from 2000-2018 that don’t involve a domestic, steroids, guns or violent crimes…basically only the ones relevant to this conversation and length of conduct policy suspension:

Mario Bates 1 game 2000
Mustafa Muhammad 2 games 2000
Michael Pittman 1 game 2001
Leon Searcy 1 game 2001
Victor Riley 1 game 2002
Derrick Rogers 1 game 2003
Wayne Hunter 1 game 2005
Chris Henry 8 games 2007
Sam Brandon 2 games 2007
Fabian Washington 1 game 2008
Brandon Marshall 3 games (reduced to 1) 2008
Larry Johnson 1 game 2008
Michael Boley 1 game 2009
Ben Rothlisberger 6 games down to 4 2010
Vincent Jackson 3 games (duis) 2010
Aquino Talib 1 game 2010
Maurice purify 1 game 2010
Quinn Ojinnaka 1 game 2010
BrandonnUnderwoon 2 games 2011
Adrian Peterson 1 year 2012
Ordon Charles 1 game 2015
TJ Ward 1 game 2015
Chris Culliver 1 game 2015
Derrick Coleman 2015 was suspended indefinitely for vehicular assault and hit and run. Was reinstated 4 days later.
Junior Galette 2 games 2015
Joseph Randle 4 games (broke windows and threatened baby momma with a gun) 2015
Sheldon Richardson 1 game 2016
Andrew Quarles 2 games 2016
Dante Fowler 1 game 2018
Jimmy smith 4 games 2018

That’s as far as wiki goes.

There is literally no precedent to give Rice any suspension anything over 2-4 games ABSOLUTE MAX WHERE ROGER IS MAKING AN EXAMPLE.

How many of these were on video leaving the scene of an accident they caused by street racing?

I think he gets somewhere from 2-8 games. 8 games if the league decides it's really going to make a cause out of street racing, but not likely. 4 seems most likely to me.

No way would 8 games would stick. The nflpa would go on strike before they’d allow that.

I think DJ is right and it will only be a game, or 2.

People have done worse and have gotten less than 8 , it wasn’t during organized team activities or during the season or using team vehicle /equipment/ facilities etc.. you guys sound like you want him to lose his job /career and we dont even know the charges yet .

Are we really going to continue to pretend that the 1 game suspension for Brandin Echols just didn't happen? After he paralyzed a guy in a high speed crash?

Oh...well he didn't slowly saunter away from the scene so that's FAR better than what Rice did.

Some of you are just insanely hung up on leaving the scene of an accident. On its own, independent of aggravating factors, the LAW barely cares about it.

This is just hilarious. I mean the obstinance required to look at an entire list of personal conduct policy suspensions that are fractions of what you're dead certain Rice is going to get and then just say "Nah, those fact patters aren't absolutely identical to Rice's so they're irrelevant" is just laughable. Nevermind the fact that many of them are worse.

{throws hands up}

ORSON CHARLES POINTED A ****ING GUN AT A GUY IN A ROAD RAGE INCIDENT AND GOT A GAME!!!!!!!!!

Jesus tapdancing christ.

Think he ****ing hung around at the scene afterwards?

Andrew Quarles got in a fight with a woman, went outside and started firing his gun in the air at a nightclub. Two games. But he wasn't...{gasp}...racing

No words. There are no words.

Stats kill denial in a conversation regarding logic with logical people.

I guess that’s the differentiation here.

I guess I’m guilty as anyone of holding my ground in a conversation, but come on.

Shit man, I wouldn't even be completely floored by 3 or 4. I wouldn't think its fair in light of existing precedent, but we all know that Rajah likes to just keep turning the screws harder so I'd just be irritated but not stunned.

8 goddamn games? GTFO here.

Eight games? ROFL

Ray Rice beat the shit out of his girlfriend and was suspended TWO games.

Has he been charged with “street racing” or is that just some bullshit that keeps floating up like a turd?

He hasn’t been charged with anything yet but Skuzzer already has him on death row.

Seems more reckless/careless driving than “street racing”

He deserves 1 game suspension of his choice imo

The Chiefs shouldn’t have to play their first four games at all. We should just be awarded victories.

See you all in Week 5.

I think the NFL will want to make an example of Rice because of the Henry Ruggs incident. Call it whatever you want. I’m thinking 4-6 games is likely, with 8 being a long shot.

Look, I know one of my first posts in here was "Don't need this distraction, get rid of him, yadda yadda"

But has the OP ****ed off yet?

Mechanical failure; the power steering belt got caught in the warp drive and caused the throttle to stick. Only by his quick action, was Rice able to avoid a worse outcome.

Who knows? He left the scene on foot, he did not attempt to drive away.

Now then, because I have Chiefs PTSD, this is not a good look for the NFL and the SB Champions, a stronger suspension will be in order. Because Chiefs, of course.

Rice literally got out of the drivers seat of the Lambo haha. What is your issue?

Survivors? Gotta love the media. :doh!:

read it again you illiterate mongoloid

there is no issue

the only issue is with idiots like you

floating up like a turd...Texas law defines street racing as starting side by side from a stop, or from place to place by time. Unless they have text messages or testimony saying they were racing to their location, the police most likely have nothing.

There is no reason that any state could say anything about having guns in the car as long as you are not a felon. The police and DA can speculate all they want but that is a right in the constitution for all citizens.
That being said, until recent years, Texas did not allow open carry. Yes, you read that right. That shocked me when I first learned of that several years ago. But I do believe they changed that law a few years ago.

Edit: Before someone jumps all over me, yes, I do realize that some states don't allow just anyone to have a gun. All I am saying is that those states are not following the founding docs. And, as I recall, the Supreme Court weighed in on this at least twice in the past 10-15 years.

I have thought that he left for other reasons. That being said, the video of him walking away did not make him appear intoxicated. Who knows?

Yes, 2 hours max, not 5 hours...:rolleyes: Especially if the cars had no damage from having rolled or on their tops or sides. Sometimes they will partially close the some lanes, but it isn't completely closed.

They had weed in the car and it was early. Doubt he was terribly wasted, but TCH in the system probably leads to a DUI.

It must suck to be so negative all the time.

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Right?
We could bring Byron Pringle back and get 21 catches for 315 yards and uh touchdown.
Might as well be asking if Gehrig Dieter is still in playing shape.

We don't know that, we're just speculating at this point. But yeah, that would be my guess.