If the win was even remotely as easy as it should have been Mahomes would have been sitting the fourth quarter and not gotten injured. But I’ve been told they don’t care about scoring points so extra unnecessary snaps are the risk we take.

He’s gotta the shit kicked out of him this year. Most of that due to our shithouse situation at LT, some of that due to his own self inflicted decision making. You’d hope our offensive playcallers would have had this in mind in the second half, but I have no idea what the **** Andy/Nagy were thinking.

Hopefully Veach pays both a visit. It was surprisingly effective after the Christmas embarrassment last year.

NFC baby! :clap:

Can't run, can't pass. It's clearly an offensive line issue. We got the best LT play all year, but the rest of the line was terrible. If DJ can play well, and then we focus on getting Taylor help, maybe we can flip the switch. I'm not all the hopeful though. OT was actually the primary problem last year, too.

Getting Hollywood and Worthy on the field at the same time has some potential, too.

Came in with 10 takeaways. Got 6

No, it’s really not. His LT has been garbage for most of the year, and he was uncharacteristically inaccurate today. Nothing more, nothing less. Step away from the ledge.

Again, the defense allowed ONE score on a long breakaway run. The game was in hand a long time ago, regardless of how much the cowards whined about it.

I still say give Mahomes the Tin Cup treatment. Have him meet with a therapist to see if he can get rid of his yips.

Sorry, he is a hero of mine so I've been in denial.

It's getting hard to justify defending his play. I feel like I'm watching Alex Smith again.

Eight drives went three or four-and-outs that gained 72 yards will do that.

Chiefs had SIX drives go three-and-out for 20 yards today.

Terrible play-calling and terrible execution with Mahomes missing wide open receivers multiple times (either because he didn't see them or because he under/overthrew them).

Shouldn't have this much to clean up this deep into the season but it was a great performance by the defense so there is that.

A healthy Mahomes is more important than the one seed and we probably still get it wither way. Just get him right. However long it takes.

My homer glasses are in their protective case. It just gets tiring reading all of the bitching week in and week out over a 13-1 team. Everyone has been bitching about sphincter clenching last second one score wins for weeks, we finally don’t have one if those and instead of being grateful that we avoided that, everyone starts bitching about something else instead.

This place is on the perpetual rag.

I actually think he misses EB from a fundamental perspective.

I thought the Oline played ok but guess not.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has been pressured 54% of the time today, per <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ESPNStatsInfo</a>. <br><br>That&#39;s the highest pressure rate he&#39;s faced in a game since 2020.</p>&mdash; Seth Walder (@SethWalder) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1868398806561415418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hollywood is going to fix everything next week (thinly veiled sarcasm)

O line played much better in first half

I get the argument but his ankle is a recurring issue. A rest would be nice but we still need some things to happen to clinch the top seed. We're not there yet.

And yes, we need the top seed this year more than last year. A tougher AFC and we had an earlier BYE week.

You think people should be happy because Mahomes got hurt due to the stupid ****ing playcalling?

That’s certainly . . . . . . . . . a take.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes walked out of the locker room on his own, before leaving on a cart. <a href="https://t.co/1NPp0bObiz">pic.twitter.com/1NPp0bObiz</a></p>&mdash; Sam McDowell (@SamMcDowell11) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11/status/1868406910850093299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably off to get an x-ray? Or maybe just to the media/press conference room?

Every Chiefs fan loves Pat. This board ran with my "**** Pat he sucks" comment earlier in the season when he threw a pick and then blew out Rice's knee. But it was a one off comment in that moment.

But he's been ASS basically all year. I watch other games each week and see QB's make throws deep with regularity and terrible line play.

Pat just sucks this year. Doesn't mean he won't turn it around, but last year it was the drops. This year, it's him. Today he had some great pockets at times and he was still awful.

I get how ridiculous it is but it's also a testament to the fact that we know these guys can play better on offense. If we're being honest both the fact that we know the Chiefs are inevitable and will find a way and the fact that the Chiefs are not playing well (either because of Andy losing his mind with the playcalling or Mahomes just being off on throws he used to make) can both be true.

I have zero worries about this team right now. They have ALWAYS kicked it up a gear in the post-season. And I have a lot of faith that the coaches know who to play and how to play them. But the execution on offense is off and even when Mahomes had time today he was still off. Maybe it's unrealistic to expect him to change the way he plays/feels out there in just one game and it was massively encouraging to see the O-Line not give up a sack today.

We'll be fine, but all the concern - while a bit goofy around a 13-1 team that holds opponents typically under 20 points per game - only shows the level of greatness we want for this team.

I just can't wrap my head around how our three-time Super Bowl MVP quarterback suddenly looks like Damon Huard. It is frankly horrifying.

I don’t disagree we weren’t losing but the fact is our terrible offensive performance led to Mahomes being in a game he should have been resting in after the third quarter.

Of course not. But when you see your O line getting consistently beat and picking the franchise player off the turf every snap, maybe handing the ball off a little might help. Andy should know better.

The regression for Mahomes started last year actually, but all of the WR drops gave everyone much more focus/concern. I am 100% sure Nagy is to blame, the playcalling has been horrible, I don't think any current NFL QB would flourish with these playcalls. Today was about the worst of the playcalls though, given the ball back 6 times by the defense and can only win by 14?!?

The post I quoted was complaining about the lack of points after 6 turn overs.

Alex Smith offenses didn't look this bad.

It’s exciting to get him back, but if the line can’t block it won’t much matter. Additionally, Pat sucks throwing deep so not really sure how much he’ll help.

My bad. Noted.

Allen made that drive with two great throws. Not going to hit those all the time. Lions just have to keep up their game script and the Bills won’t stop them much.

Nagy is brutal.

If you watch any footage of him at camp or practice it’s very obvious his role is pretty much Mahomes’ personal cheerleader.

I think Pat misses someone like EB who would keep him focused and hold him accountable.

I’ve got a feeling that the staff right now is stacked full of his buddies and I’m not sure that’s the best thing for him as a player.

What everyone seems to be missing when discussing Mahomes is how Kelce’s big play threat has disappeared this year. Mahomes still has the magic improv ability, but he’s not same QB without a game breaking Kelce.

There is a pretty big difference in what you typed here and “OMGZWTFBBQ!!!111 THE SKY IS FALLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!”.

You are addressing certain things in a calm and reasonable manner, while some of these other drama queens just bitch and moan incessantly.

I think it is quite obvious that the o-line has… not broken him, but screwed him up. Consistent line play would start to bring him back around.

I need to catch up on what we’re whining about today.

I had to watch the game on an iPhone 7. Where does that rank?

Many decades of conditioning will lead Chiefs fans to always find the poop lining.

Chiefs are really a great overall team that is underachieving on offense. No idea what the reason is but Mahomes isn't playing well consistently. I'm sure they'll figure it out in the post-season.

I will say that the one time that Mahomes and the offense has looked right is when they go no huddle and Mahomes just plays ball. At least that's what my eyes tell me.

Chiefs beat the spread! W00t w00t!

That does seem to be the case. He's hearing footsteps now even when there aren't any.

I’m happy. How happy?


13-1 happy with the toughest ****ing QB in this league. This QB is unbelievable. This team has been incredible. They’re winners. All day. Every day.

Yeah, I go back and forth with all that... all the obvious things that we talk about over and over, but it's not like Allen and others have receivers in their system for years or anything. Just throw the damn ball.... but then I mean, he had plenty of time in the pocket at times today and also overthrew several guys on easy passes.

And then crunch time happens and he suddenly looks like the Mahomese we all love, or even on a random drive in the middle of the game, just to disappear again.

It's almost like he NEEDS the game to be on the line to come out of his shell.

What’s even more horrifying is people calling you a traitor for pointing it out.

Dude can’t complete a 5 yard out to a receiver with 2-3 yards of separation and couldn’t hit a deep ball to save his kids lives, but all is well.

Just horrifying!!

Seriously. Clay's schtick is beyond old. We all love Pat and what's he's done for us, but obvious bad play is obvious.

It reminds me of the exchange between Mendez and Chambers in Argo.

M: What are you shooting?
C: Monster movie.
M: Yeah? Any good?
C: The target audience will hate it.
M: Who's the target audience?
C: People with eyes.

I remember he seemed crazy frustrated in 2021, throwing balls at the feet of receivers over and over in that long stretch of shit offense... and I could see some of that, but then you have guys running wide open downfield and he's consistently not hitting those either.

So maybe he's just too much in his head about it, but if they run up tempo or at the end of games, he just stops thinking so much and plays ball... I dunno.

Still expecting he just flips a switch in the playoffs like none of this ever happened.

What am I supposed to be doing with my hands?!

Chicago was so happy to get rid of Nagy as a coach. Horrible coach.

Week after week its the same GDT whiners. I can't imagine what it would be like if we were 1-13. The GDT is broken not the chiefs. It's like a bunch of over-emotional women posting each week.

If you watched that game today and all you thought was "yep we won great game" you have the critical thinking skills of simple jack.

Its the NFL dipshit you can get a good game from anyone especially a team with a good pass rush and a team that loves to throw it.

Yea but they didn't play great...the Chiefs shit their pants.

The Chiefs looked like they didn’t even practice on offense this week.

Look at the scoreboard.

It was clear from the broadcast that connecting on the deep ball was a BIG emphasis in practice this week.

Why that’d be the case with Thuney at LT and Garrett at DE is… worth questioning, to say the least.

The main positive was seeing the defense force a lot of turnovers and hold a pretty explosive Cleveland offense to very few yards and only 7 points. The Defense has had some pretty shaky performances the last 4-5 games. This was a freaking awesome performance by the KC Defense today.


Obviously Mahomes & KC Offense need to perform much better if the team wants to go anywhere in the Playoffs. But we said the same thing last year for 99% of the season, including a super ugly performance on Christmas Day against the Raiders. Hopefully they can flip the switch again in January like they did last season.

Defense immediately better after Williams took over for Naz. That was the fix. PRetty simple. So wild that one corner position really hamstrung the defense for four or five games.

But the fact is, and few want to acknowledge this, we scored 21 points with six turnovers. That's beyond piss poor.

I'm diving in. No quarter given tonight.

"Few want to acknowledge it." You must not be reading the posts on this forum. Ton of people (including me) complaining about Mahomes and the offense. They were horribly bad. Now you just gotta hope they flip the switch like they did last year. Pretty much all there is to it.

I’m with him.

This team watched Mahomes suffer a high ankle sprain in the 2022 postseason and we lost three games in the month of December alone in 2023.

Won the Super Bowl both years.

I’m over hanging onto these regular season games as if they mean something in the playoffs.

Watching the replay of the injury and Mahomes take a helmet to the face with no flag. Should have been a 15 yard penalty and a 1st down.

I went through the exact same conditioning. “Because Chiefs” was a way of life. And yes, every once in a while that thought creeps back into my mind. But I squash it and throw it away right quick. I was on the 3peat bandwagon last season, even after the back alley abortion that was the Christmas Day loss.

Those decades of “Because Chiefs” is no longer an excuse; if someone doesn’t have control of that conditioning at this point, it’s because they don’t want to - or probably in some cases, in complete control and just being jack ass trolls.

Again, it’s one thing to point out and to discuss obvious issues, it is another to be a herald of doom week after week after week.

Story of the day…

6 takeaways… SIX!!! (should have had more points off the turnovers)
21 points
Mahomes ankles
13-1

I watched it on an 8 Plus, but the home button is worth it.

Steven Nelson, Jaylen Watson, Hollywood Brown, and DJ Humphries are coming.

Just wait til we get Pacheco back!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has been pressured 54% of the time today, per <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ESPNStatsInfo</a>. <br><br>That&#39;s the highest pressure rate he&#39;s faced in a game since 2020.</p>&mdash; Seth Walder (@SethWalder) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1868398806561415418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How much of that is initial pressure not him holding only the ball or running into pressure unnecessarily? He played like he had an aids fire in his helmet.

6 straight AFCCG. 3 Lombardi's in 5 years.

If anyone is still suffering from "because Chiefs" they're a loser.

But it’s horrifying!!!

We could lose out and get bounced in the first round and I would not be upset this year is all gravy.

Yeah, some perspective is nice for sure.

They've been on the grind for a long time. Just year after year of being that has to wear on you. But.....you wanna be mentioned with those guys like they all want, it comes with the territory.

Thought about that too. They have played and won more games that a lot of teams they played. It is a grind.

looking a 4 SB in 5 years. that is at least 9-10 extra games. Dont ask me to do math this morning.

And the pressure of a three peat. THEY CAN DO IT.
This season has done them NO favors. F the NFL.

“They are what we thought they were”

Holthus kinda had it right, they've played 7 years of games in 6 seasons.

I hate being right about injuries, especially one that effects Mahomes.