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mattschiefs 10-11-2013 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10072187)
Umm, like, really smart people who actually understand professional football in the modern era and stuff.


Serious business.

Umm, Like,really smart people who actually understand football would understand that 5-0 is good in and era and wouldn't be crying

BigCatDaddy 10-11-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs (Post 10072192)
Umm, Like,really smart people who actually understand football would understand that 5-0 is good in and era and wouldn't be crying

Um like really smart people understand that even 9-0 teams bow out of the playoffs in the 1st round because of weaknesses on the team. I'm guessing you are a yougin and don't know much about Chief playoff history, yes?

You understand it's still possible to be a fan and cheer the team and be critical at the same time, right?

mattschiefs 10-11-2013 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10072200)
Um like really smart people understand that even 9-0 teams bow out of the playoffs in the 1st round because of weaknesses on the team. I'm guessing you are a yougin and don't know much about Chief playoff history, yes?

And have we bowed out of the playoffs yet?

Unlike you who has us already down and yet despite the fact we are unbeaten I don't pretend to know what's going to happen. I let it happen I don't whine before hand

And I have seen every playoff game since 95 I have been there for all the losses

Baby Lee 10-11-2013 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10072200)
Um like really smart people understand that even 9-0 teams bow out of the playoffs in the 1st round because of weaknesses on the team. I'm guessing you are a yougin and don't know much about Chief playoff history, yes?

Guessing wrong. Every bit of every game since Neil Smith was drafted [though I started watching b/c of Dino Hackett, not Neil].

BigCatDaddy 10-11-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10072206)
Guessing wrong. Every bit of every game since Neil Smith was drafted [though I started watching b/c of Dino Hackett, not Neil].

I wasn't referring to you. Your join date speaks for itself.

BigCatDaddy 10-11-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs (Post 10072205)
And have we bowed out of the playoffs yet?

Unlike you who has us already down and yet despite the fact we are unbeaten I don't pretend to know what's going to happen. I let it happen I don't whine before hand

And I have seen every playoff game since 95 I have been there for all the losses

Good, so you understand this is a flawed team right? Did you think it was okay to complain about the shitty defense in 03 when the team was 9-0?

This board has a lot of people on it that are critical thinkers and don't love up every player, coach, or personel guy on the team. There are some that do wear their red and yellow undies every day, but not everyone. If you are looking for a board of super homers this isn't the place for you.

Sandy Vagina 10-11-2013 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10071530)
My 9 year old knows the difference between know and no...or their and there.
Sad.

The sad part is that you have a child at all. I weep for the future.

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs (Post 10071777)
I understand that part and I understand the position thing but 4 games is enough to make him out to be a wasted pick?

You also have to throw in that the ENTIRE o line has struggled. But single out the rookie that's fair

What has conveniently been left out of all the Fisher struggles is that the rook had been playing with injuries to his shoulder and hand... plus, playing on the right side instead of left. People make so much of this 1.1 selection, but yet, most acknowledge that this was a very weak draft at the top. Oh well.. tough luck, KC.. not the only team that got stuck like that.

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10071899)
going to extremes? Eric Fisher has been a ****ing disaster at right tackle. That's not even hyperbole.

Yeah, that's pretty extreme indeed. He has sucked badly at times, but has shown some good also. Yet to you, he has been a disaster, and that still doesn't stop you from bashing the QB that this disaster of an OT is protecting?

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 10071937)
Because of ****s like you we will never draft the quarterback that can be around year after year knocking that door down.

So, in your mind, the hate for your team's F/O decisions leaks down to the fans that are willing to see if the rookie can get it together and improve? Yeah, that's brilliant. Pout, pout, pout about "what could have been." Could have had Geno, and all those turnovers wouldn't have affected the 5-0 record? or are you saying you would rather a shittier record on the off chance that one day, Geno could be the QboTF that keeps you winning... which is unlike the current QB who leads every QB in win % over the last 3 seasons. Hmmm....

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs (Post 10072017)
I don't pretend to be a football expert I don't get into all the stats and stuff you guys like to throw out.

I watch The Chiefs to see them win unlike you who watches to see what you can spot in Alex smith to whine about and Eric Fisher to whine about because you can't get over they didn't draft who you wanted.

Good for you. That's a recipe for an enjoyable season. The others that want to cherry-pick stats and cry all day simply can not enjoy the team's success as profoundly... and it's their loss. They are too busy trying to be "experts" on a message board to impress other anonymous message board users... who is the joke there?


The sad part of all this? Last night, I went out and had drinks with friends.. came back and spent quality sexual time with the Mrs.. got a great night of sleep in.. and what did all of you do? Sat around sniping insults at other anonymous posters on a forum.

Pathetic... but better than the comics section to read through with my a.m. coffee! :)

mattschiefs 10-11-2013 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10072214)
Good, so you understand this is a flawed team right? Did you think it was okay to complain about the shitty defense in 03 when the team was 9-0?


No I don't understand this team is flawed.

You see what you all knowing Geno Lovers don't understand is that this is still an offense that's growing. Alex Smith is in his first year in a new system, He's learning it you don't just get in and go for the most part. I again will give the Trent Green example. First year struggled but after that best offense in the NFL. You people would have ran him out of town year 1. That sure would've been smart right?

The offense has to get better across the board. No one can say otherwise. But I won't say that isn't possible this year

Sandy Vagina 10-11-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs (Post 10072223)
No I don't understand this team is flawed.

You see what you all knowing Geno Lovers don't understand is that this is still an offense that's growing. Alex Smith is in his first year in a new system, He's learning it you don't just get in and go for the most part. I again will give the Trent Green example. First year struggled but after that best offense in the NFL. You people would have ran him out of town year 1. That sure would've been smart right?

The offense has to get better across the board. No one can say otherwise. But I won't say that isn't possible this year

yep... KC offense ranked 14th right now.. down from 11th, but hey, the Titans D is pretty legit. Nothing terrible about 14th ranked in efficiency. Not where they need to be.. so yes, there are flaws that need fixing... but still.

BigCatDaddy 10-11-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 10072218)

What has conveniently been left out of all the Fisher struggles is that the rook had been playing with injuries to his shoulder and hand... plus, playing on the right side instead of left. People make so much of this 1.1 selection, but yet, most acknowledge that this was a very weak draft at the top. Oh well.. tough luck, KC.. not the only team that got stuck like that.

Honest question. Fisher was about 230lb when he graduated HS. He has to eat like a ****ing horse to maintain his weight so he isn't as naturally big as most guards and tackles. Do you think that might figure into him having injuries and early struggles?

I believe it was Nate Newton that talked about him not wearing at the end of the game because of his naturual size and strength as opposed to guys that were naturually smaller and weight room warriors. I don't know how much truth there is to that, but it's interesting.

Snapplez 10-11-2013 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs (Post 10072223)
No I don't understand this team is flawed.

You see what you all knowing Geno Lovers don't understand is that this is still an offense that's growing. Alex Smith is in his first year in a new system, He's learning it you don't just get in and go for the most part. I again will give the Trent Green example. First year struggled but after that best offense in the NFL. You people would have ran him out of town year 1. That sure would've been smart right?

The offense has to get better across the board. No one can say otherwise. But I won't say that isn't possible this year

There they are.

Look at some of the other teams with new HC's and systems across the league. Chargers offense has looked good at times, Bears offense has as well, Philly's offense is pretty ****in good, hell, even the Browns offense has had its moments. They are all new systems under new HC's. Why can they hit the ground running but our team with all its talent can't? I can think of a pretty important reason and that is that the QB Reid hand-chose is total dogshit.

Sandy Vagina 10-11-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10072230)
Honest question. Fisher was about 230lb when he graduated HS. He has to eat like a ****ing horse to maintain his weight so he isn't as naturally big as most guards and tackles. Do you think that might figure into him having injuries and early struggles?

I believe it was Nate Newton that talked about him not wearing at the end of the game because of his naturual size and strength as opposed to guys that were naturually smaller and weight room warriors. I don't know how much truth there is to that, but it's interesting.

Could be. Not sure any of us can do more than speculate on that. One thing I am sure we all know.. Fisher can get stronger. He is a true LT playing RT, and being a currently lighter, weaker guy can and is causing some struggles.

Perhaps the Chiefs had strongly planned on trading Albert... so they drafted their new LT... but were disappointed in the value offered in trade. So instead, they keep Albert for the year at LT and try their 1.1 at RT... with full expectation of moving back to LT when Albert walks away for the FA market payday. Not an awful plan... particularly if they rated Fisher higher on their board than the rest.

mattschiefs 10-11-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapplez (Post 10072234)
There they are.

Look at some of the other teams with new HC's and systems across the league. Chargers offense has looked good at times, Bears offense has as well, Philly's offense is pretty ****in good, hell, even the Browns offense has had its moments. They are all new systems under new HC's. Why can they hit the ground running but our team with all its talent can't? I can think of a pretty important reason and that is that the QB Reid hand-chose is total dogshit.

And this team has also had it's moments like in the 4th qtrs when they have gone down the field on BIG DRIVES and WON THE GAME or PUT THE GAME AWAY but why mention that? I mean that doesn't count for anything right?

BigCatDaddy 10-11-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs (Post 10072223)
No I don't understand this team is flawed.

You see what you all knowing Geno Lovers don't understand is that this is still an offense that's growing. Alex Smith is in his first year in a new system, He's learning it you don't just get in and go for the most part. I again will give the Trent Green example. First year struggled but after that best offense in the NFL. You people would have ran him out of town year 1. That sure would've been smart right?

The offense has to get better across the board. No one can say otherwise. But I won't say that isn't possible this year

You don't understand what Alex Smith is then. He's doing now what he always has.

Trent Green only had 24 NFL starts before the Chiefs traded for him so there was room for growth, especially on a team void of talent on both sides of the ball. Alex Smith just is what he is and that's an avg QB.

Snapplez 10-11-2013 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs (Post 10072241)
And this team has also had it's moments like in the 4th qtrs when they have gone down the field on BIG DRIVES and WON THE GAME or PUT THE GAME AWAY but why mention that? I mean that doesn't count for anything right?

Have you noticed the common theme in those drives? With the exception of a few passes, most of those drives are run plays to Charles. Taking the ball away from his QB is winning us games.


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