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Prison Bitch 03-07-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12117018)
. Do we get celebrated at our jobs for being in the top four of the employee of the month ballet? No. The Final Four in CBB is so ****ing hard to achieve for obvious reasons most of us know. .

KU only hangs single banners for Final Fours, they put League titles packed 10 to a banner. So even our own school knows the difference. The Tourney gets 1/3 of all viewers for the whole season and you could probably argue it drives a good chunk of the regular season viewers too (who wouldn't tune in if there was no Tourney later).

The Tourney is no "crapshoot", that's just what KU fans say. The best team often wins and when they don't it's won by a similarly elite team. I wish it was more of a crapshoot because our March performance would be better.

KC_Connection 03-07-2016 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12117196)
By the way, If what Landen Lucas has become for KU doesn't get every big in the country wanting to come to Lawrence to play for Self, then you're crazy kids. Can't comprehend what has happened with him. Awesome job by Self and his staff to get him to this.

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Landen Lucas, 6'10" junior forward, Kansas
For the first two months of the season, four of Kansas's five starting positions were solidified. Coach Bill Self, however, had a hard time deciding who the fifth should be. He rotated four different players through the position, and he even inserted little-used 6'9" freshman Cheick Diallo into the lineup for a game at Oklahoma State on Jan. 19. The result was a disastrous 86–67 loss.

After returning to Lawrence, an exasperated Self met with the four other starters and asked who they should join them. Their answer was unanimous: They wanted Lucas. "They all felt that Landen understood everything we were trying to do," Self says. "So that's when I decided to start him."

It's also when Kansas started winning again. The Jayhawks have lost just once with Lucas in the starting lineup. His size and rebounding ability have been a major boon, but mostly it's the way he thinks about the game that has made a difference. "We're a much smarter team when he's in there because he's as bright a player as we have," Self says. "He's not a naturally gifted scorer, but he understands how to use angles, how to set a fade screen late in the clock to get a guy a shot. He just knows how to play."

Lucas has needed to rely heavily on his beautiful mind to overcome some of his physical limitations. The native of Portland, Ore., spent his senior season of high school playing for Findlay Prep, the renowned basketball factory in Las Vegas. Yet, Lucas did not make any recruiting service's top-100 lists in his class. The only reason Kansas recruited him is because its top big man target, Kaleb Tarczewski, opted for Arizona. Lucas was so raw as a freshman that Self convinced him to redshirt so he could develop his strength.

Lucas averaged just 4.9 minutes per game as a redshirt freshman, but he became an increasingly effective player last season. He was promoted to starter late in the regular season when the team's center, Cliff Alexander, was declared ineligible and Lucas played well down the stretch. Lucas grabbed a total of 19 rebounds in Kansas's two NCAA tournament games.

Because of his offensive limitations, Self was reluctant to make Lucas a starter from Day 1 this season, but that changed after his meeting with the players following the pratfall at Oklahoma State. Lucas's coming out party occurred on Feb. 9, when he had 16 rebounds, nine points and four blocks in a pivotal 75–65 win over West Virginia. Afterwards, Self called him the best player in the game. Lucas is averaging a team-best 7.2 rebounds per game conference play, and it is fitting that this once-unheralded recruit is now playing ahead of the team's two ballyhooed freshmen forwards, Diallo and Carlton Bragg.

"Even though he wasn't as highly recruited as some other guys, I think Landen always had high expectations for himself," Self says. "He knows his role. He needs to be our best post defender so we don't have to trap. He has to be our best rebounder at both ends. He has to do the dirty work so [senior forward] Perry [Ellis] doesn't have to, because that's not naturally Perry's personality. And he has to give us an element of toughness."

In other words, he has to hold everything together. The public and the media may not always understand the value Lucas brings, but his teammates sure do. That is the Glue Guy's ultimate reward.
http://www.campusrush.com/all-glue-t...?xid=cr_social

KC_Connection 03-07-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12117305)
The Tourney is no "crapshoot", that's just what KU fans say.

If a six game, single elimination, 68 team basketball tournament isn't a crapshoot, I don't know what is.

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I wish it was more of a crapshoot because our March performance would be better.
Better than what? Doesn't KU have the most NCAA tournament wins this century?

Al Czervik 03-07-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12117209)
Bill Self wins AP Coach Of The Year.

Damn Right!!!!

Mr. Plow 03-07-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12117305)
The best team often wins

No....no they don't.

KC_Connection 03-07-2016 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12117397)
No....no they don't.

2014-2015 Kentucky very well could have been the best college team we've ever seen and they went down last year. While the winner the previous season (UConn) wasn't even particularly good.

KC_Connection 03-07-2016 01:12 PM

https://johngasaway.com/2014/11/06/s...ns-since-2000/

Looks like MSU and Duke would have passed KU last year here after their FF runs. The idea that KU underachieves in the tournament, though, is a myth for those looking for something to bitch about.

Prison Bitch 03-07-2016 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12117397)
No....no they don't.

Yes, yes they do.

Chiefs Pantalones 03-07-2016 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12117390)

Crazy turn of events.

By the way, if you talk to a lot of Zona people here they're not too pleased with the development of Tarc. He's gotten strong as hell but he's pretty much the same player as he was when he came in (to some in AZ that's the neg on Sean Miller, great recruiter but more often than not his players that stay don't drastically improve). If he would've went to KU he'd be in the NBA by now.

Bearcat 03-07-2016 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12117305)
KU only hangs single banners for Final Fours, they put League titles packed 10 to a banner. So even our own school knows the difference. The Tourney gets 1/3 of all viewers for the whole season and you could probably argue it drives a good chunk of the regular season viewers too (who wouldn't tune in if there was no Tourney later).

The Tourney is no "crapshoot", that's just what KU fans say. The best team often wins and when they don't it's won by a similarly elite team. I wish it was more of a crapshoot because our March performance would be better.

Well, yeah.. that's not the point of saying it's a crapshoot. Good teams will still float to the top for the most part, but it's not like the best team in CBB is the Alabama of football and you just hope there's one other team that can knock them off (besides Kentucky that one year).

How many more NCs should Kansas have by now? I mean, there are only a handful of teams with more NCs than KU and the most of any team in my lifetime is 5, compared to 2 for Kansas.

If you don't like the level of success, good luck with one of the schools that are so vastly superior. :shrug:

Bearcat 03-07-2016 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12117419)
https://johngasaway.com/2014/11/06/s...ns-since-2000/

Looks like MSU and Duke would have passed KU last year here after their FF runs. The idea that KU underachieves in the tournament, though, is a myth for those looking for something to bitch about.

Time to become a UConn fan, I guess.

Mr. Plow 03-07-2016 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12117477)
Yes, yes they do.

All you have to do is look at the champion each year to know that the best team rarely wins the tournament. But, you are of the mindset that the UK game was more important than the rest of the season, so there isn't any point to arguing with you about it.

Bearcat 03-07-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12117620)
All you have to do is look at the champion each year to know that the best team rarely wins the tournament. But, you are of the mindset that the UK game was more important than the rest of the season, so there isn't any point to arguing with you about it.

It's what I'll always remember about this season. That awesome <strike>Monday</strike> Saturday afternoon into evening, I think.

KCTitus 03-07-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12117620)
All you have to do is look at the champion each year to know that the best team rarely wins the tournament. But, you are of the mindset that the UK game was more important than the rest of the season, so there isn't any point to arguing with you about it.

Clearly...if the best team always wins the tourney, Iowa State would be prepping to defend its title from last year.

jimidollar 03-07-2016 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 12117683)
Clearly...if the best team always wins the tourney, Iowa State would be prepping to defend its title from last year.

Boom!


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