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Rams Fan 06-04-2023 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16969967)
They absolutely stole it. They’re not better than that team and Denver outplayed them for the majority of the game.

That’s the kind of road win that can change the entire trajectory of a series though. Denver can’t lose that.

Since the turn of the millennium, do you want to guess how many teams have been swept in the Finals?

It's pretty ****ing hard to sweep a team, much less this late in the post-season.

tredadda 06-04-2023 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16969967)
They absolutely stole it. They’re not better than that team and Denver outplayed them for the majority of the game.

That’s the kind of road win that can change the entire trajectory of a series though. Denver can’t lose that.

Perhaps our definition stealing it differs. I think we can both agree Denver is the better team, but far too many games are won/lost in the fourth quarter (football included) where one team takes over. The previous 3 quarters are all forgotten about. A great example is SB 54. I will agree that this was a game that Denver shouldn’t have lost. It will be interesting to see how they recover.

KC_Connection 06-04-2023 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16969972)
Since the turn of the millennium, do you want to guess how many teams have been swept in the Finals?

It's pretty ****ing hard to sweep a team, much less this late in the post-season.

Miami is still likely the weakest team since the 1999 Knicks to make the Finals. They were certainly a candidate for it but Denver just didn’t show up in the 4th.

WilliamTheIrish 06-04-2023 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16969964)
They didn’t steal it. They flat out dominated Denver in the fourth quarter. They took away everyone but Jokic until Murray started hitting shots when it was too late.

I guess one could make the argument they stole that game. Miami played well though. Draining those 3’s helps immensely. Miami did go into the lane pretty often in the 4th for big buckets late.

Rams Fan 06-04-2023 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16969979)
Miami is still likely the weakest team since the 1999 Knicks to make the Finals. They were certainly a candidate for it but Denver just didn’t show up in the 4th.

2007 and 2018 Cavs seem way worse to me as an overall team.

Chief Pagan 06-04-2023 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16969952)
It was bad but I don’t feel bad. Denver should sweep this team. Hell, they outplayed them for 40+ minutes in this one. Miami just sort of hung around and stole it.

And gee, we haven't ever seen Miami do that ever before now...

Have we???

KC_Connection 06-04-2023 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16969976)
Perhaps our definition stealing it differs. I think we can both agree Denver is the better team, but far too many games are won/lost in the fourth quarter (football included) where one team takes over. The previous 3 quarters are all forgotten about. A great example is SB 54. I will agree that this was a game that Denver shouldn’t have lost. It will be interesting to see how they recover.

It also really just felt in watching it that Denver just blew this one the way they controlled it throughout and the way Butler played (for most of it). Maybe that isn’t quite fair to the Heat because Miami did play a great 4th Q admittedly but that wasn’t the same Nuggets team in that quarter either.

KC_Connection 06-04-2023 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16969984)
2007 and 2018 Cavs seem way worse to me as an overall team.

From an overall roster perspective those Cavs teams were worse, but they had the GOAT playing at an extremely high level (especially in 2018, that was still in LeBron’s peak). The Heat don’t have that level of player.

KC_Connection 06-04-2023 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16969985)
And gee, we haven't ever seen Miami do that ever before now...

Have we???

It’s becoming a pattern for sure…

KC_Connection 06-04-2023 09:04 PM

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WilliamTheIrish 06-04-2023 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16969988)
It also really just felt in watching it that Denver just blew this one the way they controlled it throughout and the way Butler played (for most of it). Maybe that isn’t quite fair to the Heat because Miami did play a great 4th Q admittedly but that wasn’t the same Nuggets team in that quarter either.

They got hit with that zone press and just couldn’t figure it out quick enough They got going again in the last 3 minutes. But they had a 5 minute stretch where Miami took them completely out of their game. Maybe 8 minutes to the 2:30 mark.

Rams Fan 06-04-2023 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16969992)
From an overall roster perspective those Cavs teams were worse, but they had the GOAT playing at an extremely high level (especially in 2018, that was still in LeBron’s peak). The Heat don’t have that level of player.

The Heat don't have LeBron, but the 2007 and 2018 Cavs team had such a shit supporting cast (it's a miracle what LeBron did to win in Game 7 in Boston in 2018 in the ECF).

One player does not make an entire team.

Sassy Squatch 06-05-2023 05:17 AM

Maybe it's not statistically backed, but you'd think Denver would have the altitude advantage the longer games go but they've been outscored by double digits in both fourth quarters.

Coogs 06-05-2023 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16969952)
It was bad but I don’t feel bad. Denver should sweep this team. Hell, they outplayed them for 40+ minutes in this one. Miami just sort of hung around and stole it.

Miami had a great first quarter too! So no on the 40+ minutes. 1st and 4th for Miami. 2nd and 3rd for Denver.

chiefzilla1501 06-05-2023 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16970058)
Maybe it's not statistically backed, but you'd think Denver would have the altitude advantage the longer games go but they've been outscored by double digits in both fourth quarters.

The heat feel like a different animal than the other teams Denver has faced. They seem way better conditioned to handle it and spoelstra is excellent with his rotations. They also force Denver to work harder. Im sure Denver would love not to throw jokic kn the floor for 40+ minutes. Denver's been brutalizing opponents in the second half at home but I wonder if in this series they have a little bit of a home disadvantage


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