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LetsSignRussell 06-05-2010 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6799916)
Sometimes my sister really is an idiot. We were talking today about fasting, and she brought up the "Starvation Mode" bullshit. She is pigheaded and would not listen to me.

I wanted to slap her.

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pics?

Hammock Parties 06-05-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LetsSignRussell (Post 6799917)
pics?

http://i48.tinypic.com/334ouue.jpg

Hammock Parties 06-05-2010 12:54 AM

I'm sure that, subconsciously, we bombed the Japanese because we were jealous of their thin culture.

http://calorielab.com/news/2008/01/1...-get-that-fat/

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Eating and snacking in Japan is very convenient. In urban areas there are so many fast food places, food stalls, kombini or convenience stores stocked with all sorts of tempting and often fattening readymade food, and the world’s most advanced food and beverage vending machine industry. The snack food industry is fiercely competitive. And, unlike statements made by English language press sources like this one which implies that the fast food/junk food trend is some recent phenomenon, this state of affairs has been there for decades.

So at least in Japan the premise of the survey cited doesn’t hold true.
Japan Thin: Where are the Overweight Japanese?

That’s not to say that there aren’t overweight or even obese people in Japan. Japanese people, especially women, are as obsessed with diets as their counterparts in the U.S. or the U.K. Every day there’s a new “miracle diet” popping up. Go to food sites from Japan and every other ad there is for some sort of Japanese weight loss scheme. There are increasing concerns about the unhealthiness of fast foods and convenience foods.

Still, I think that at least for a while, people in Japan will continue to stay relatively slim. Here are a couple of reasons:

* Peer pressure. Japanese society is largely based on how one fits comfortably and unabrasively into society, way more so than most Western societies. There is a huge amount of peer pressure to conform, and the pressure on women in particular to stay slim is tremendous.
* More unplanned movement. Usually people who live in Japan, especially the urban and suburban areas, just have to move a lot more. Cars aren’t practical at all except for longer trips, so almost everyone commutes by public transportation. That’s not to say there aren’t any gyms and such (there are, tons of them) but people just naturally get more exercise than in a typical American city.
* Portions are way smaller. This is true in general, despite recent supersizing trends. There are Mega-Burgers and Extreme Meals and all of that, but the average portion sizes are still quite a bit smaller than in the U.S.

Japan Fat: Once You Move out of the Country, Things Change

A common complaint amongst Japanese people who go to live in another country, especially the U.S., is that a pretty substantial weight gain is almost inevitable. I haven’t been able to find any formal studies of this, but time and again I hear about people gaining around 15 to 20 pounds within a year or so after moving away from Japan. It’s not the Freshman 15, it’s the kaigai seikatsu (overseas living) 15. The author of Japanese Women Don’t Get Old Or Fat starts off with a personal anecdote about how she gained 25 pounds after moving to the U.S. One of the bestselling diet books in Japan, Tatakawanai daietto: Waga musume wa kooshite yaseta! (”The Fight-free (struggle-free) diet: My daughter lost weight this way!”) is based around the theme of a food and health journalist helping his daughter who came back “with a fat body” after a year of study in Arizona. (She’d gained about 10 kilograms, or 22 pounds.)

This weight gained happened to me too. I wasn’t overweight at all until my family moved back to the U.S. when I was 17. Within the span of a year or so I went from around 50 kilograms to about 70 kilograms. (I’m not actually sure what my starting weight was, since weight was not even an issue for me until I started to not fit in my clothes anymore!) I did lose a lot of it, but have since gained it back and more, hence my current efforts to get rid of the excess weight again!

Why did I gain 20 kilograms so easily? It comes down to fairly simple reasons: lack of unplanned exercise, lack of peer pressure, and the huge portions. Whenever my new school stressed me out (I hated that high school to be honest) I’d comfort myself with a bag of potato chips — the family size. We usually ate out as a family at local diners, where the club sandwiches could be stacked up about 15 inches high, and we started expecting home meal portions to be as big.
Living Large Around the World

I think it is just tremendously hard to stay slim in the U.S. compared to other places I’ve lived, which is why the obesity rate is so high there. Public transportation is not that available except in a few cities, and people just don’t walk much anymore in the suburbs. So one has to make a special effort and set aside a specific time to get any exercise. Busy people aren’t always willing or able to do that. Portion sizes at restaurants and such are large, and I’m fairly sure many people will complain if they were drastically reduced.

And, despite the attention paid to “size zero” celebrities and such, I just don’t believe there is that much peer or societal pressure to keep yourself slim. When the people around you are mostly neither slim nor fit, why bother?

I haven’t lived in the U.K. since I was a child, but whenever I’ve visited there in recent years I gotten the feeling that it was becoming more and more Americanized in lifestyle — more reliance on cars, bigger portions and so on. Add that to the fact that traditional British food can be quite high calorie (pies, fish and chips, and well, curries) it’s not too surprising to see obesity rates there soar.

As for Switzerland, where I now live, it has some factors that help keep people slim, such as great public transportation, a natural tendency for people to get a little exercise, and reasonably sized portions. Also, people don’t really eat out as much here, or rely on takeaways/takeout and readymade meals.

The bottom line is that home cooking is really better for you all around, health and taste wise. And it’s the best way to take control of your own, and your family’s health. (And all the better if at some of that home cooking is Japanese — a reason to visit my Japanese food blog, Just Hungry.)

Or maybe Japanese are slim simply because they have the wackiest weight loss diets: Check out the 10 best diets from Japan, the skinny diet guru SHINO, the Trans-America Super Diet, the Morning Banana Diet, and the Morning Banana Forum.

kysirsoze 06-05-2010 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6799906)
Taking it is better than not taking it. Just take it after a workout. That's when the studies show it's most effective. Why is it a matter of trust? Is it like a monumental chore to take the pill or something? Gotta psych yourself up after a long workout? :)

Not a chore... I'm just really bad about sticking to routines in general so anything that is "take any time" is better for me. If it's better after the workout, though, I'll make it my beeswax to take it then.

Silock 06-05-2010 01:04 AM

It's a small difference, but it does exist. Taking it post-workout is best. But, again, taking it at all is better than not.

Saulbadguy 06-05-2010 09:30 AM

Jesus H. Christ. Back from the personal trainer. Apparently i've been neglecting my core. ROFL

I can barely walk down the stairs to get to my computer to post this. Walking up the stairs should be quite the chore. I'm beat.

Gracie Dean 06-05-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6799862)
And so do your boobs.

bwaha clever :rolleyes:

but even if that were the case dumbass boobs can be fixed. Your intelligence and LACK of it can not :)

Hammock Parties 06-05-2010 09:56 AM

0-Carb pancakes. INCREDIBLE. Don't even need syrup.

http://i49.tinypic.com/29kqqso.jpg

Hammock Parties 06-05-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by noswad (Post 6800148)
bwaha clever :rolleyes:

but even if that were the case dumbass boobs can be fixed. Your intelligence and LACK of it can not :)

You mean "cannot." One word, honey.

Silock 06-05-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6800139)
Jesus H. Christ. Back from the personal trainer. Apparently i've been neglecting my core. ROFL

I can barely walk down the stairs to get to my computer to post this. Walking up the stairs should be quite the chore. I'm beat.

This is why I say work core every day! It's THAT important!

Keep it up, man!

Silock 06-05-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6800169)
0-Carb pancakes. INCREDIBLE. Don't even need syrup.

http://i49.tinypic.com/29kqqso.jpg

What's the recipe?

Silock 06-05-2010 09:58 AM

Hour of lifting last night. Lifted for an hour this morning, then 1.5 hour spin class.

Hammock Parties 06-05-2010 09:59 AM

http://www.mrbreakfast.com/superdisp...?recipeid=1175

I doubled it. Got about 4 pancakes out of it.

Silock 06-05-2010 10:06 AM

Damn, that's a ****load of calories!

You doubled it?

4 eggs - 280 cals
6 oz pork rinds - 456 cals
1/2 cup heavy cream - 212 cals

I mean, obviously it's not THAT big of a deal if you budget for it. Just surprising, that's all, considering regular pancakes are less calories than that.

Omaha 06-05-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6799916)
Sometimes my sister really is an idiot. We were talking today about fasting, and she brought up the "Starvation Mode" bullshit. She is pigheaded and would not listen to me.

I wanted to slap her.

That's likely the reaction you'll get from most people. When I first got here and started reading about fasting I immediately asked if that slowed down your metabolism. Someone sent me eat, stop, eat & that was the first I'd ever read about fasting. There is a lot of conflicting information available & it can be tough to sort through it.


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