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BigRedChief 05-14-2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 14268379)
This. Said better than i did above.

again, this is not fuzzy. A difference of opinion. The cast was onboard. All, EVERONE was ready to film 10 episodes. You can google this. It had to be talked about in this very thread when it was announced. It was big news in the GOT communities. People were pissed at D&D.

temper11 05-14-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 14268187)
I have no problem with that at all. It would be good to have 2-4 more episodes, but whatever. To me, they are rushing it to end it, and it's causing detriment to the story and the characters.

Why not have Dany decide to wipe out the city for a clear reason other than Jon not kissing her back? Yes, I know, they've been foreshadowing the Mad Queen stuff, but it would have been better if there was a "tragic misunderstanding" or something. Like say, instead of the Golden Company being quite useless, how about they retreat into the city. The citizens of the city, having been sold a bill of goods by Cersei that the invaders were coming to rape them all and their kids (they DID have Dothraki in there after all) rise up and actually fight the invaders. As a result, Jon and his forces are in the fight of their lives and start getting their asses kicked...forcing Dany to go berserk and maybe she goes too far and wipes out the city worse than she really needed to. And THAT causes her victorious allies to look at her funny. It seems all the wasted time on the battle (battles...) could have been paired down so that you see what Cersei is planning and how the city will be defended.

How about a few more minutes devoted to Euron, making him a bad guy that we actually give a shit about seeing die instead of just some wanker who nobody cares about? I understand that they didn't have time to build him up to like Bolton status, but damn, make him more than meh. Then when Dany rides in to wipe out his fleet, have him get wiped out with them in some awesome display from an armored Drogon maybe. Don't have to show them making the armor, hell, just say they are going to do it after the other dragon bit it. It could be a suggestion by Tyrion. Whatever.

How about Arya killing Cersei, who is joined by a dying Jaime and they both die in each other's arms kinda Shakesperian tradgedy style? It wouldn't have taken that much time to tweak it to make it interesting instead of nothing...

And on and on. It's just lazy writing. I have no problem with where they are going, it's just how they are getting there is lazy and empty. I find myself giving a shit only because I'm supposed to, not because of what they are showing me.

It is what it is, but there is no way anyone can say with a straight face that this is anywhere near the "best" season of GoT. I would say it's really the worst, because of how important it is and how they are rushing through it.

If you'd have done this episode exactly as you have it said here - or even better given whatever amount of time you'd need to perfect it in your mind, and had all the resources, talent and cash to see it through to it's perfect depiction...

you'd have 10,000 people on this board telling you what a shitty, lazy job you did - and you raped their childhood. It's just the way it is.

ThaVirus 05-14-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 14268370)
It actually makes some thematic sense. The place where he made his greatest mistake is also the place he did his greatest deed.

I'll concede that it'd be poetic, maybe even ironic.

DaFace 05-14-2019 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 14268382)
If you'd have done this episode exactly as you have it said here - or even better given whatever amount of time you'd need to perfect it in your mind, and had all the resources, talent and cash to see it through to it's perfect depiction...



you'd have 10,000 people on this board telling you what a shitty, lazy job you did - and you raped their childhood. It's just the way it is.

Not sure what kind of kids books you are used to, but I'm not comfortable with kids reading books about kids getting thrown out of windows to hide ****ing one's sister. [emoji14]

temper11 05-14-2019 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14268388)
Not sure what kind of kids books you are used to, but I'm not comfortable with kids reading books about kids getting thrown out of windows to hide ****ing one's sister. [emoji14]

I stand corrected.... "you raped their young adult years".

temper11 05-14-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14268381)
again, this is not fuzzy. A difference of opinion. The cast was onboard. All, EVERONE was ready to film 10 episodes. You can google this. It had to be talked about in this very thread when it was announced. It was big news in the GOT communities. People were pissed at D&D.

I've done zero research, so I believe you fully. I'm just saying... this isn't unusual in long running shows. I believe it was Patrick Stewart alone who ended Star Trek TNG, cause he was just tired of doing it.

I wish we had another full season (or 5) of GoT also.

Raiderhater 05-14-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14268262)
He kind of looked like Blaster from Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

My thought was Darth Vader after Luke takes his helmet off.

BigRedChief 05-14-2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 14268414)
I've done zero research, so I believe you fully. I'm just saying... this isn't unusual in long running shows. I believe it was Patrick Stewart alone who ended Star Trek TNG, cause he was just tired of doing it.

I wish we had another full season (or 5) of GoT also.

you know HBO wanted more episodes. They are printing money off this show. How many TV shows have ever made it to this level of societal impact. No show you had to pay to watch that’s for sure. People have parties to watch the show. Buy HBO just so they can watch the show.

The Sopranos was big but it didn’t have wide ranging audience that GOT has now. Maybe it would have with the wide penetration of social media that’s in every part of society in 2019. Maybe if that was the way it was back when it was on the air. Maybe.

Chiefspants 05-14-2019 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14268369)
this has been known for a long time. HBO talked about it publicly when the times and number of episodes was announced. They had a $100 million budget and offered to fund the additional episodes at the same rate. All the actors were onboard. D&D are soley to blame for only 6 episodes. They said publicly at the time that they were tried and it was time to move on.

Links to them saying they were “tired?”

The Franchise 05-14-2019 09:52 PM

Grey Worm going crazy was good to see. Been waiting for that.

DaFace 05-14-2019 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14268633)
Links to them saying they were “tired?”

This hits at the high points. It doesn't say they were "tired" per se, but it sounds pretty clear that the common conception among those in the know is that they wanted to move on to other projects.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas...was-a-mistake/

Hammock Parties 05-15-2019 05:51 AM

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Chiefspants 05-15-2019 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14268718)
This hits at the high points. It doesn't say they were "tired" per se, but it sounds pretty clear that the common conception among those in the know is that they wanted to move on to other projects.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas...was-a-mistake/

Fantastic article.

I've read a lot of interviews from Dunkin' Donuts (my favorite of their nicknames). They've never given that nihilistic of a perspective about their work on the show from what I've read.

BucEyedPea 05-15-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14268718)
This hits at the high points. It doesn't say they were "tired" per se, but it sounds pretty clear that the common conception among those in the know is that they wanted to move on to other projects.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas...was-a-mistake/

Which is common to see among some actors who leave a long series—they want to move onto other projects.

Of course, for the ones who had this series for their first acting job that showcase their talent—they're probably getting new offers regularly.

Hammock Parties 05-15-2019 08:34 AM

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