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Reaper16 04-09-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655895)
Sanchez does not have a better arm. In fact, that's one of the slight criticisms about him by the draft guru's - that his arm strength isn't great. Good, and I think it's more than adequate, but it's not any better than Cassel's and looks to be a little less.

His footwork in the pocket is horrible. He has happy feet and dances like he's standing on a hot plate. I think that's correctible, but I see it as a potential problem/red flag.

You have literally never watched Mark Sanchez play.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-09-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5655926)
I undedrstand that he came out early and only had 16 starts in college. That makes him a long shot. You know that. But Sanchez is gonna buck the curve right? As far as Curry is concerned he has the attributes it takes to rush the passer but I wouldn't draft for that alone. I would draft him for evrything else he does so well combined with the fact that the other players at the top of this draft aren't as good as him regardless of positional value save 2 OTs and 1 QB. If he can become a pass rusher that's the upside.

PhilFree:arrow:

What the **** are these attributes he possesses that allows him to rush the passer?

I'm sure it's just an apocryphal skill that he was hiding through four years in college. Of course, we'll also neglect the fact that he has no pass rushing moves and that his arms are flat out too mother****ing short to do it effectively.

milkman 04-09-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5654052)
:spock:

Really? Solid? Practical?

All we've heard from your side is LB's arent worth a high pick and some evaluation of past draft history. Oh ya, and a fair amount of name calling.

Meanwhile the accounts of Curry's worth have typically shown quite a bit of info about the player Curry is and his worth in THIS draft.

Um, Kettle...your black.

Yeah, go ahead, ignore history.

In reality, I think it's entirely possible that Pioli will do the same, and I will be pissed.

You don't build teams around a player like Curry, who hasn't proven he can rush the passer.

He is, no doubt, the best player at his position, but his is what I refer to a periphery position.

And my namecalling is reserved for those that deserve it.

I don't recall you ever being stupid even when you're wrong, so I don't call you a name.

SAUTO 04-09-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5655926)
I undedrstand that he came out early and only had 16 starts in college. That makes him a long shot. You know that. But Sanchez is gonna buck the curve right? As far as Curry is concerned he has the attributes it takes to rush the passer but I wouldn't draft for that alone. I would draft him for evrything else he does so well combined with the fact that the other players at the top of this draft aren't as good as him regardless of positional value save 2 OTs and 1 QB. If he can become a pass rusher that's the upside.

PhilFree:arrow:

if you are looking at trends then the argument against BOTH players are valid


what other qb has become ELITE or even drafted top 3 after only 16 college starts???


how many lbs non pass rushers at that have been taken at 3???

Mecca 04-09-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5655942)
You have literally never watched Mark Sanchez play.

Mark Sanchez is extremely fundamentally sound, which is why the 16 starts thing doesn't flip me out. You watch him for 10 minutes and he doesn't remotely look like a 1 year starter.

DaneMcCloud 04-09-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5655926)
I undedrstand that he came out early and only had 16 starts in college.

JFC on a ****ing chrome dildo!

Mark Sanchez DID NOT come out "early". He was a four year collegian. He didn't stay for his 5th year. While he was technically a junior, he didn't come out "early".

****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****!

****ing reeruns!

Mecca 04-09-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5655948)
if you are looking at trends then the argument against BOTH players are valid


what other qb has become ELITE or even drafted top 3 after only 16 college starts???


how many lbs non pass rushers at that have been taken at 3???

If you can find me a 3-4 OLB that actually never played DE at any point in his career I'd be pretty stunned, it just doesn't happen.

htismaqe 04-09-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5655823)
IMO it may already be done, just not announced. why announce it? if pioli haley and cassel know what is going on who else REALLY needs to know?

If Cassel already had a deal, we'd know about it.

Pioli may be able to keep the people inside Arrowhead quiet, but 90% of all the news reports you read about contract terms come from the AGENT.

There's absolutely zero chance Cassel has a deal. ZERO.

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5655908)
Yeah, and Tyler Hansbrough should be the #1 overall pick.

No, but he's got as much potential as someone like Carlos Boozer, who, despite being a First Team All-American, fell into the second round because pro teams had questions regarding his height, shorter arms, poor shot mechanics, and lack of speed and overall athleticism. But he seems to have worked out okay in the NBA, and Hansbrough plays substantially better defense than Boozer. Somebody is going to steal him in the late first or early second round.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-09-2009 06:21 PM

Can we please build a concentration camp to throw all these dumb ****s into?

Mecca 04-09-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5655950)
JFC on a ****ing chrome dildo!

Mark Sanchez DID NOT come out "early". He was a four year collegian. He didn't stay for his 5th year. While he was technically a junior, he didn't come out "early".

****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****!

****ing reeruns!

It's almost as bad as this argument that "he only came out cause Bradford didn't so he knew he'd go high" when I guarantee you if he goes back Sanchez goes higher than Bradford...Sanchez had a shot to go #1 next year.

SAUTO 04-09-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5655953)
If you can find me a 3-4 OLB that actually never played DE at any point in his career I'd be pretty stunned, it just doesn't happen.

that has NOTHING to do with what i said

DaneMcCloud 04-09-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5655960)
Can we please build a concentration camp to throw all these dumb ****s into?

Surrounded by AIDS trees.

Mecca 04-09-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5655960)
Can we please build a concentration camp to throw all these dumb ****s into?

I say we do it....oh god he just compared Hansbrough to Boozer, he doesn't understand basketball either.

SAUTO 04-09-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5655954)
If Cassel already had a deal, we'd know about it.

Pioli may be able to keep the people inside Arrowhead quiet, but 90% of all the news reports you read about contract terms come from the AGENT.

There's absolutely zero chance Cassel has a deal. ZERO.

maybe the agent was told to STFU, with this regime nothing is for sure IMO


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