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chiefzilla1501 12-16-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6353109)
I don't necessarily think people are saying he's building it the wrong way - more along the lines of not building at all.

45 players in and out of here, and not one core player that can be built upon - no pass rusher, no playmaking WR's, no game changing LB's, no franchise QB - nothing.

Unless you want to argue that Tyson Jackson is going to be an impact player, a true gamechanger for years to come - in which case I'm going to go grab a bottle of Makers Mark.

Yeah, but on the same token, I would rather have no direction in year 1 than to move moronically in the wrong direction. Most of the guys signed are 1-3 year guys with easy-to-cut contracts. I'd be more concerned if we signed a ton of expensive, long-term guys who ended up being busts. So far, Cassel appears to be the only one of those guys that might fit into that category.

I don't think he's moved into the wrong direction. It's just been frustrating that there hasn't been much direction at all. Maybe the direction becomes more clear now that he has Phil Emery in full charge of the college scouts. ANd maybe some of the reluctance on his part was that without an offensive coordinator and a fill-in defensive coordinator, you don't fully know what your long-term offensive and defensive plans are. I don't know. These are reasons why I'm willing to wait until this offseason to decide.

Fish 12-16-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6352852)
I'm sure people in Dallas didn't see much, if any, improvement after Jimmy Johnson's first year, or when Parcells finished his first season with a worse record than Perkins, or when Noll finished with a worse record than Austen.

If you think Pioli sucks and you don't have any hope for the future, why waste the next 4 years of your life involved in something that infuriates and angers you so much?

Because I have to. That's the way it is. I can't just switch teams.

And please remember... criticizing the team doesn't equal hating the team. I can criticize them without raising my blood pressure.

DeezNutz 12-16-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6353141)
Because I have to. That's the way it is. I can't just switch teams.

Oh, and here I thought you were a late arriving Royals fan, just jumping on the bandwagon. LMAO.

****ing Kansas City...

Mecca 12-16-2009 08:13 PM

I think if we truly hated the team we wouldn't spend this much time breaking down decisions.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6353165)
I think if we truly hated the team we wouldn't spend this much time breaking down decisions.

No. You hate the team. You WANT them to fail.

Dylan 12-16-2009 10:06 PM

How much blame does Haley and his staff deserve for the Chiefs situation?

The Chiefs beat the defending Super Bowl Champions -- After a slow start in the first half, Cassel and the Chiefs came back strong to beat the Steelers 27-24 in OT.

So how is Haley not catching any blame for his failure to get the most out of these players after they beat the defending Super Bowl Champions? Haley should be getting some serious scrutiny.

Here is what Hines Ward had to say after the game:
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"The coaches have to put us in a better position," said Hines Ward, as tenured a Steelers player as you can find and a man who had just wasted a 10-catch, 128-yard performance."
Interesting -- Read this article published by the Pittsburgh Post Gazzette: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09327...#ixzz0Zuk42MM8

Cassel By Half 1st half 2nd/OT
Comp-att 4-10 - 2nd/OT 11-20
Yards 35 - 2nd/OT 213
TD-Int 0-0 - 2nd/OT 2-0
Passer rtg 50.0 - 2nd/OT 125.6

-- ESPN Stats and Information

Chiefnj2 12-16-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6353165)
I think if we truly hated the team we wouldn't spend this much time breaking down decisions.

Which is why you are always around when they win. Oh wait, nevermind.

Dylan 12-16-2009 10:15 PM

So who's to blame for the Giants' no show defense this season?

On the Giants' defense:
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"They (the Giants) have allowed 330 points and only the Chiefs (342), Buccaneers (356), Rams (361) and Lions (406) have given up more."
Bill Sheridan Giants first year defensive coordinator will most likely be fired at the end of the year -- If Sheridan is involved with this franchise next year it will cost Tom Coughlin his job. Believe it.

NY Post
(Defensive Coordinator) Sheridan on Giants hotseat
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/bunch_of_bill_oney_MhoFAB8doxe3DmDDb4Ih0M#ixzz0ZuOXn54B

Easy 6 12-16-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6353141)
And please remember... criticizing the team doesn't equal hating the team. I can criticize them without raising my blood pressure.

100% true.

What seems to be going on around here lately though, is that any kind of positive thats raised, outside of superficial Charles, Flowers praise, is considered 'gullible homer' talk... completely beneath consideration, Negative is the New Black @ the Planet.

Cassel was right about 1 thing, even the most knowledgeable fans dont really know exactly what they are seeing on a given play... me, you & every other deliciously wordy ironic genious here included. No, its not a defense of Castles play or any other positions... Except Charles1... its a defense of the truth. Players have been saying to fans for generations 'you dont always see what you think you see' because its true.

Thats not being a ****ing homer, thats recognizing the truth... not a defense of Cassels wobbles or Haleys often questionable decisions... as much as some of you would like to think you have it all worked out... you. dont. This entire organization is learning an entirely new way of being after 20 or so years.

Pioli! Pioli! wherefore art thou Pioli!... if the 'Everything Is Wrong Period' crowd is right, lets just sell the team to Anaheim... please, lets give it some time... some bad early decisions were made regarding available talent i agree, but lets not throw the baby out with the proverbial.

Homer... thats become as used up as 'liberal'.


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