Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6370669)

Studebaker found himself in the right place, at the right time. Now he's a hero? Come on guys. He has no pass rush moves yet. He gets pushed back at the LOS.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6370638)

No. I wouldn't say those things.

1. The continued improvement of our CB's. If we could add an Eric Berry to that mix and get Page healthy again, that's a pretty damn good secondary. I agree

2. Hali has been a good surprise. Is he a Pro Bowler? No. But we can win with him. He went from being a bust last season, to a player we can with this season. I agree

3. We have found some decent depth at LB. None of our ILB's are starters. But, Belcher and Mays provide decent depth. Studebaker looks like a solid OLB in the making, but he gets pushed around at the LOS. Maybe another offseason to build some bulk and work on technique will help with that. If we can add a starter from the draft and a decent starter F/A this offseason, we could be looking at a strong LB unit. I dont think any of our current LBers end up as longterm starters here except Hali. We need three starting linebackers

4. Haley's scheme looks pretty damn good. The execution and his game management, not so much. BUT, you can start to see what he wants to do with the offense. Now, he needs some better players and they need more practice, and we may be seeing the offense begin to blossom. after the first sentence, I thought you were about to go full reerun...glad you didnt, I somewhat agree with your statement there except the first sentence.

5. We have found a great back in Charles. I know, i know, he didn't start right away. But it's not like he wasn't getting used. Haley was looking for ways to get him the ball. LJ was a 2-down back with JC coming in at 3rd down. And to JC's credit, he has been getting better each week. But, so has our O-Line. this really isnt a credit to Haley though, IMHO Charles is excelling in spite of Haley so far, not because of him.

6. Our O-Line. They are starting to gel. They look like they understand there assignments. The start of the season, they didn't even know who they were suppose to block. They look like they know now. Albert continues to grow. I see a solid LT that is quick enough to run trap plays and screens. And you know that is what Haley wants to do. Maybe the reason why we didn't see a guy Like Richardson early, is because he wasn't ready. Callaghan and Ndukwe are young O-linemen that got in early. So, Haley is willing to play young O-linemen. Starting to ****ing jel? **** NO THEY ARENT! Albert is the only linemen that has improved at all all year. Just because we just played the Borwns and Bills, doesnt mean "the line is jelling"
7. Chris Chambers. Now we have a vertical threat. Add a Golden Tate or someone with a like skill set to that mix....Now we have a soild WR core Chris Chambers is old and has another year, or MAYBE 2 if we are lucky, and his attitude doesnt go into the shitter like it has at previous teams after a good first year.

There are things to be excited about. There are some positives. Pioli has a great track record for finding F/A's. That shit doesn't just disappear overnight. As long as they don't out think themselves in the Draft (tyson Jackson) Pioli will be alright. IF our GM has it together, then wins will come.

We have some pieces in place. Shit is starting to take mold. We can all go on for days about what they did wrong, but why?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6370694)

1. Um you DO realize that Flowers, Carr, Charles Studebaker, etc. were already on the squad, right?

2. Hali is NO surprise: He is what he's ALWAYS been: An average pass rusher and completely useless against the run.

3. Haley's a completely bumble**** when it comes to evaluating the offensive line. Rudy Niswanger? Are you ****ing kidding me? Wade Smith is 10x the center as Niswanger. Play Nsukwe out of position at Right Tackle was a good thing? Starting O'C over Richardson was a good thing? JFC.

4. Chris Chambers is 31 years old and he'll be 32 to start the season. Who knows if he'll chose to return but firstly, he's not a long term solution and secondly, the wheels could fall off at any second. Plus, he's got a serious domestic situation to deal with.

I don't see anything here that you've stated that makes me believe that Todd Haley is a competent coach worthy of returning.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6370663)

If Carl Peterson didnt trade Jared Allen (who had his most production under TK)

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6370715)

I see where you are coming from, but it seems to me that you are looking for reasons to be positive instead of looking at it fully objectively. Maybe Im of base and I am letting the losing effect my ability to be objective because I am starting to presume the worst because that is what we have had to deal with recently.

I hope we made the right choices and that a lot of this first year is chalked up to a total flush of a season to begin with in retrospect a couple years from now.

time will tell

Originally Posted by ChiefUp (Post 6370737)

come on you cant fire Haley you just got ride of Herm after 3 years of crap then yas give the team to Haley who had a team of no talent hacks to start with and now with one more win then we would of had under Herm this year you guys want to scrap him and start all over I mean how long do yas want to be rebuilding

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6370730)

1. Just because they were on the squad, doesn't mean they haven't improved. What did JC prove last season? What did Studebaker do last season? And the question wasn't whether or not there was pre-existing talent, the question was if there was anything to be positive about. I told you, yet you continue to be negative.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6370730)

2. Hali is a surprise. Did you honestly believe he would see success transitioning into the 3-4? Really? No one here did. Obviously he has his weaknesses. BUT, like i said, we can win with him. As i said, he is no pro-bowler, but TH will not be the reason we loose games.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6370730)

3. Rudy has been improving.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6370730)

We have plenty of potential RG's right now. At the time we needed a RT. Ndukwe was asked to fill that need. he failed at it. Why start him at RG when we have better RG prospects? And do you seriously not remember how bad Richardson was? He was awful, and then after 1 game against the Browns he is better than O'C? Come on man, at least let's see him play another start before declaring him the best RT on the team.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6370730)

4. So what if he is turning 32. The dude can play. He is a stop gap, but a good one. We can win with him. He has opened things up for this offense and there is plenty of reason to believe that he can carry that over. He is a playmaker, and we will ride him till his wheels fall off, same way we did Kennison. You're choosing to look at the glass half emptey. That's on you, dude.

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6370733)

Better check these stats out. He still has 2 games left this season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jaredalle...e?id=ALL454745

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6370760)

Are you ****ING KIDDING ME? Charles contributed a SHIT TON last year, when he was HEALTHY. Unfortunately, he had issues all year long with his hamstring.

JFC, you act like all of the sudden, after 4 years of college and one in the NFL, the guy woke up and was a good back.

And Studebaker? Again, do you know ANYTHING about these Chiefs? Studebaker was signed LATE in the season off of Philly's practice squad. He's a DIVISION III PLAYER. Not D-I, not D-IA, not D-II. Division THREE. And he was only with the Chiefs for their final 6 games.

****!



LMAO

His numbers are nearly IDENTICAL to his numbers as a DE. And apparently, you didn't watch the Cleveland game because were do you think those 300 rushing yards came from?

Oh, that's right: Running over Tamba Hali!



Rudy sucks ass. Unreal



You're so ****ing full of shit. Seriously.

Potential right guards? First off, Wade Smith is THE BEST center, right guard, left guard and right tackle on this football team, bar none. Why he wasn't playing, let alone starting is ****ing beyond my comprehension. More proof that Haley can't evaluate talent.

Secondly, Nsukwe started 15 games at right guard last year for the Dolphins, yet the Chiefs played him out of position for weeks at right tackle. More proof of poor talent evaluation.

Richardson? Are you joking? When he filled in for Albert at left tackle, he did a tremendous job. The Browns had EIGHT SACKS of Rothlisberger yet one of Cassel with Richardson on the right side AND the running game was much improved.

If you can't see that, then you might as well stop posting.




You're choosing to compare his career to Eddie Kennison's, just like some people are choosing to compare Cassel's to Green's.

Well, that shit don't fly.

First off, Chambers numbers have been steadily declining due to injury and age. He has legal issues and marriage issues stemming with an affair with a 25 year-old girl, which is why he was cut by San Diego. She's been charged with 11 misdemeanors. Furthermore, there is absolutely NO guarantee that he'll even want to return and quite honestly, I'd hate to see him get a contract and revert to his lame ass ways in San Diego.

This team should be focused on developing YOUTH, not rehabbing old ****S.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6370760)

Are you ****ING KIDDING ME? Charles contributed a SHIT TON last year, when he was HEALTHY. Unfortunately, he had issues all year long with his hamstring.

JFC, you act like all of the sudden, after 4 years of college and one in the NFL, the guy woke up and was a good back.

And Studebaker? Again, do you know ANYTHING about these Chiefs? Studebaker was signed LATE in the season off of Philly's practice squad. He's a DIVISION III PLAYER. Not D-I, not D-IA, not D-II. Division THREE. And he was only with the Chiefs for their final 6 games.

****!


LMAO

His numbers are nearly IDENTICAL to his numbers as a DE. And apparently, you didn't watch the Cleveland game because were do you think those 300 rushing yards came from?

Oh, that's right: Running over Tamba Hali!



Rudy sucks ass. Unreal



You're so ****ing full of shit. Seriously.

Potential right guards? First off, Wade Smith is THE BEST center, right guard, left guard and right tackle on this football team, bar none. Why he wasn't playing, let alone starting is ****ing beyond my comprehension. More proof that Haley can't evaluate talent.

Secondly, Nsukwe started 15 games at right guard last year for the Dolphins, yet the Chiefs played him out of position for weeks at right tackle. More proof of poor talent evaluation.

Richardson? Are you joking? When he filled in for Albert at left tackle, he did a tremendous job. The Browns had EIGHT SACKS of Rothlisberger yet one of Cassel with Richardson on the right side AND the running game was much improved.

If you can't see that, then you might as well stop posting.




You're choosing to compare his career to Eddie Kennison's, just like some people are choosing to compare Cassel's to Green's.

Well, that shit don't fly.

First off, Chambers numbers have been steadily declining due to injury and age. He has legal issues and marriage issues stemming with an affair with a 25 year-old girl, which is why he was cut by San Diego. She's been charged with 11 misdemeanors. Furthermore, there is absolutely NO guarantee that he'll even want to return and quite honestly, I'd hate to see him get a contract and revert to his lame ass ways in San Diego.

This team should be focused on developing YOUTH, not rehabbing old ****S.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6370704)

He's a 6th rounder from a Division III school. On a shit team like the Chiefs, who have absolutely no playoff hopes and whose primary mission SHOULD BE to find and build a youthful core of players, Mike Vrabel should be no where near the field except in the event of injury.

That's what is SO damn confusing about the direction of the current Chiefs:

There IS no direction.

PERIOD.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6370787)

Damn, you REALLY dont like it when people disagree with your opinions huh?

Geez Dane, cant a guy have hope anymore?

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6370810)

yeah, damn those Chiefs for trying to win games. Lets not put our smartest OLB on the field in an effort to improve the play of the other 10 guys on the field for the sake of this DIV III guy.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6370815)

Hope all you want.

The facts are the facts.