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Bewbies 03-19-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512899)
I'm sure he'll blossom here in KC!

Got any predictions for us?

I said I didn't like the trade. I also said he's better than Cassel.

Ass.

Hammock Parties 03-19-2013 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9512908)
I said I didn't like the trade.

Why not?

themanwithnoname 03-19-2013 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9511802)
There is no Kaepernick in this draft. After the first couple, they are garbage....and no Manuel will not be Colin 2.0.

Is Geno a prospect on the level of him and Russell Wilson?

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9512906)
I dunno, the new HC has more playoff wins than I've seen the Chiefs have in my life. So lets hope he knows what hes doing. lol I guess.

I'd love to buy into that, but remember the "Has more rings than the Chiefs do in their entire history" argument? I like Reid, but I am not a fan of the moves him and the front office have made. While I think Reid's coaching staff alone probably could've made last year's team a 6 to 10 win team, I'm wanting more and would gladly forego one year success for what I feel is better longterm success. Although, frankly, I still think Geno Smith would be just as likely to help our immediate to short term success as much as Alex Smith will.

I really don't feel they've improved the team through acquiring talent. I feel they've just gotten some baseline players to fill needs, and letting Albert go and drafting Joeckel is more of that. Essentially to me its a write-off year already as I don't think they realistically expect to do much, and so to me its a perfect time to go get a solid QB prospect to groom.

RunKC 03-19-2013 03:13 AM

Possible situation: Dorsey discusses Albert playing RT and them drafting a 1st overall LT (or have the #1 LT play RT year one then replace him in year 2) and Albert got pissed off, as seen on twitter.

Reid thinks Stephenson is a good RT for his system and we get a younger elite LT prospect while saving money to get more players and getting a valuable 2nd round pick back in return.

ChiefGator 03-19-2013 03:56 AM

Personally, I want more than a 2nd rounder for Albert. Two 2nd's would be fine though.

FringeNC 03-19-2013 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512853)
Matt Cassel's best season: 207.7 YPG

Alex Smith's best season: 196 YPG.

OMG

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You think Reid brought in Alex Smith to play not-to-lose football and only throw it 20 times a game? Smith may not be able to do what Reid wants, but if you think Reid is bringing in Smith to be a game manager, you never watched the Eagles play.

Mother****erJones 03-19-2013 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512769)
You're not getting it, child, but I will attempt to educate you once more.

Matt Cassel had some good games in 2010. We all saw those games.

Jacksonville, Arizona, Seattle, Tennessee.

Alex Smith could come here and play just like that, but I'd still want more.

I don't believe Alex is capable of anything more.

His ceiling is "Matt Cassel fools Chiefs fans late in the year, 2010."

His ceiling is higher than Cassel's. He doesnt shit the bed in the pocket like Cassel. He's shown he can drive his team down multiple times to win

Abba-Dabba 03-19-2013 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9512991)
His ceiling is higher than Cassel's. He doesnt shit the bed in the pocket like Cassel. He's shown he can drive his team down multiple times to win

His ceiling is higher? Where do you guys come up with this shit? Alex Smith has been in the league for what, 8 years? And he has had a solid 1 1/2yrs of above average football. Don't give this BS excuse of different coordinators and coaches. All it is an excuse. He is a known commodity. If Alex Smith would have been able to perform at a high level in this league it wouldn't have taken Harbaugh to coach it out of him. He should have "gotten it" a bit earlier in his career wouldn't you say?

Deberg_1990 03-19-2013 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9512987)
You think Reid brought in Alex Smith to play not-to-lose football and only throw it 20 times a game? Smith may not be able to do what Reid wants, but if you think Reid is bringing in Smith to be a game manager, you never watched the Eagles play.

This might be the most interesting experiment in football. Its been proven you can win with A. Smith as long as you protect his weaknesses and surround him with a solid staff. Reid hasnt exactly ever been known as a "ball control" type of coach. This could get interesting....

Ace Gunner 03-19-2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 9513000)
His ceiling is higher? Where do you guys come up with this shit? Alex Smith has been in the league for what, 8 years? And he has had a solid 1 1/2yrs of above average football. Don't give this BS excuse of different coordinators and coaches. All it is an excuse. He is a known commodity. If Alex Smith would have been able to perform at a high level in this league it wouldn't have taken Harbaugh to coach it out of him. He should have "gotten it" a bit earlier in his career wouldn't you say?

JFC take a look at the WR's Smith had during his career. he's going to have bowe now.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-19-2013 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 9513000)
His ceiling is higher? Where do you guys come up with this shit? Alex Smith has been in the league for what, 8 years? And he has had a solid 1 1/2yrs of above average football. Don't give this BS excuse of different coordinators and coaches. All it is an excuse. He is a known commodity. If Alex Smith would have been able to perform at a high level in this league it wouldn't have taken Harbaugh to coach it out of him. He should have "gotten it" a bit earlier in his career wouldn't you say?

Just think how wonderful Tom Brady would be if he didn't have new OCs every year or two. If Peyton Manning wasn't his own OC and HC?

TEX 03-19-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 9513000)
His ceiling is higher? Where do you guys come up with this shit? Alex Smith has been in the league for what, 8 years? And he has had a solid 1 1/2yrs of above average football. Don't give this BS excuse of different coordinators and coaches. All it is an excuse. He is a known commodity. If Alex Smith would have been able to perform at a high level in this league it wouldn't have taken Harbaugh to coach it out of him. He should have "gotten it" a bit earlier in his career wouldn't you say?

This! Just like Rich Gannon except he was even more known (older) - What? Wait a minute...

ChiefAshhole20 03-19-2013 07:06 AM

So basically we'd be trading Albert, moving down in the second to the Dolphins pick and a conditional next year for Alex Smith. I'm not sure how I feel about that quite yet. Maybe if we can use the extra cap space and an Alex restructure to sign a veteran Tackle like Volmer or Andre Smith (Jesus there is a shitload of Smiths in this league) I can get behind this move.

My whole thing with this Geno fiasco is that with the move to acquire Reid and Alex, we are almost locked in to have at the very minimum 7 wins the next few years because of the talent on this team and our weak ass division. Geno may not be the best QB prospect in the last few years, but he is almost without question going to be the best QB prospect we will have the opportunity to grab for awhile. See if anyone will trade up for him and get what you can, but don't accept a bullshit offer. If nothing is appealing, get the guy who will shore up the QB position for years to come. I really don't see the logic behind going a tackle first overall, going from a good LT to a "potentially great" LT isn't going to mean jack in the long-run if we don't have someone worthy enough to protect.

Mother****erJones 03-19-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 9513000)
His ceiling is higher? Where do you guys come up with this shit? Alex Smith has been in the league for what, 8 years? And he has had a solid 1 1/2yrs of above average football. Don't give this BS excuse of different coordinators and coaches. All it is an excuse. He is a known commodity. If Alex Smith would have been able to perform at a high level in this league it wouldn't have taken Harbaugh to coach it out of him. He should have "gotten it" a bit earlier in his career wouldn't you say?

His ceiling is bigger he can win a playoff game and not shit the bed

Pasta Little Brioni 03-19-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9513003)
JFC take a look at the WR's Smith had during his career. he's going to have bowe now.

Crabtree and Davis plus being protected by an uber line are nothing to sneeze about


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