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seamonster 06-14-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10688960)
Pete Damilatis ‏@PFF_Pete 4m

Even after a poor 2013, Brandon Flowers' +35.5 @PFF coverage grade in the last 5 seasons is the 5th-highest of any CB.

This is what get's me. Number's wise he's been a proven commodity as a defensive back and it's not like he's past his prime. He's certainly not any worse than carlos rogers and everybody in the league saw what that did for San Francisco.

At this point I'm convinced the league is ran by knuckle dragging jagoffs with IQ's of 70. I'd almost like to see a baseball manager come into the league and use predictive analytics to create a team, just to watch them destroy some of these slightly reeruned ego maniacs with clipboards that can't grasp basic middle school statistics.

TEX 06-14-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10690913)
Flowers is fairly small, and he has played a pretty physical brand of football since he was drafted.

That has begun to take it's toll on his body.

His prime years are behind him as a result.

Well said. This says it all.

OldSchool 06-14-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10691155)
Stats don't tell the whole truth. Demps and flowers had significantly different amounts of playing time. Coopers stats look good but he was shit at the end of the year against solid qb play. Flowers was out for most of the dogshit qbs we played. Do tell more....

You're right. Flowers had 866 defensive snaps to Demps' 637. Flowers had a hell of a lot more opportunities to make plays. Over 200 snaps more. And yet Demps was more productive.:thumb:

Difference between Cooper and Flowers was that Cooper only struggled against the top QBs, Manning and Rivers; which was to be expected given his limited experience with playing the position. Flowers struggled against everybody despite being hailed as a "top 10 corner" by CP.

When the coaching staff pulled Flowers from #1 CB responsibilities after watching him get absolutely destroyed by Dez Bryant, that should have told you something.

Flowers missed a game against the Giants. They only scored 7 points.

Flowers missed the first game against the Raiders. They only scored 7 points.

Flowers played the 2nd game against the Raiders. They scored 31 points.

Flowers missed exactly 1 game against a bad QB. You really think that was the difference between the huge statistical drop between Flowers and virtually everybody else in the secondary? ROFL

Dave Lane 06-14-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 10690774)
Exactly. There's a lot to criticize and question regarding this offseason but, only a ****ing reerun blames a current GM for the previous GMs mistakes.

How about squandering $30 million under the cap for basically nothing. Well we did get DUI Smith out of the deal.

OldSchool 06-14-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10691235)
How about squandering $30 million under the cap for basically nothing. Well we did get DUI Smith out of the deal.

Yeah, they squandered it all the way from a 2-14 team to an 11-5 team. Terrible decision making.

kcxiv 06-14-2014 02:58 PM

again, people come, and people go, this is how the NFL works. Flowers was slowing down, they got out early. Someone has to step up and play. Happens to all the teams in the NFL.

Dave Lane 06-14-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10691078)
You don't think he's past his prime?

MAYBE a year past but not washed up. He played hurt last year so a dip in performance would be obvious.

kcxiv 06-14-2014 03:01 PM

i dont see the big deal, its a smart move, better to get out 1 year to early then 1 year to late.

OldSchool 06-14-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10691258)
MAYBE a year past but not washed up. He played hurt last year so a dip in performance would be obvious.

So you would have been fine with using $10+ mil in cap space on him?

Dave Lane 06-14-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10691278)
So you would have been fine with using $10+ mil in cap space on him?

I would've reworked his deal instead of hiring Dunta Robinson. I don't really care that they cut him as much as I'm sick of dumb **** homers saying we are better off with out him. Now we can spend the money on a Smiff 5 year $120 million contract, I'm just ****ing ecstatic.

-King- 06-14-2014 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10691258)
MAYBE a year past but not washed up. He played hurt last year so a dip in performance would be obvious.

He's had nagging injuries the past 2 years. And seeing as how we're going to be playing more physical this year, his body likely won't hold up.

OldSchool 06-14-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10691299)
I would've reworked his deal instead of hiring Dunta Robinson. I don't really care that they cut him as much as I'm sick of dumb **** homers saying we are better off with out him. Now we can spend the money on a Smiff 5 year $120 million contract, I'm just ****ing ecstatic.

The thing is that Flowers didn't want to stay here in his new role in the first place. There is no way that he would have agreed to a pay cut.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-14-2014 03:41 PM

Cpers think the game is like Madden. He didn't fit here no one wanted the contract. ...buh bye

kcxiv 06-14-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10691299)
I would've reworked his deal instead of hiring Dunta Robinson. I don't really care that they cut him as much as I'm sick of dumb **** homers saying we are better off with out him. Now we can spend the money on a Smiff 5 year $120 million contract, I'm just ****ing ecstatic.

truth is, we dont know what they are going to do with the money just yet! At least wait til they spend the money on him to cry.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-14-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10691374)
truth is, we dont know what they are going to do with the money just yet! At least wait til they spend the money on him to cry.

I didn't realize the board was taking auditions for the new mecca. DL is trying hard.


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