I don't know what's worse. That Pioli tried to trade him (if he's such a brilliant evaluator) or that Washington wouldn't give up a lousy 5th round pick to take a chance on him.

I never knew the Jamaal Charles thing. I got in an argument with someone on a different board a while back, he was trying to tell me how good of a GM Pioli was here in KC. I don't think people understand how much he destroyed this franchise, and seeing people call him a brilliant talent evaluator is, well, as Eric Winston would call it, "thickening."

I could seriously list all the things he did well in his time here on one hand.

1. Drafting Houston
2. Drafting Poe
3. Managing the cap
4. Signing Jamaal to an uber team-friendly deal
5. Signing DJ to an uber team-friendly deal

I'm not even going to mention drafting Berry because of 1) obvious circumstances and 2) it was a no-brainer pick. That's legitimately all he did well in his time here and the list of things he did horribly is just too long to even want to get into.

Pioli didn't destroy us. He just kept us in the cellar. I will never forgive him for taking ****ing Donald Stephenson over Russell Wilson.

Every team I cluding the Seahawks took players over Wilson.
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True but his interview on NBC where he said "we loved Russell Wilson," made me want to ****ing snap someone's neck.

If he truly "loved" Wilson, he wouldn't of taken a ****ing OT over the player he "loved" in round 3 when you have Branden Albert at LT, who was just fine.

We had Matt ****ing Cassel as our starting QB and entered what every talent scout and their mothers called the deepest QB draft in recent memory, and Pioli went 7 ****ing rounds and said, "No thanks. I'm good, really. I already got enough QB competition. Have you met Brady Quinn?"

It's plainly obvious that that mother****er could have been gift-wrapped Andrew ****ing Luck at our pick in the 1st round, and he would have passed on him. Remember what he said immediately after the 2011 season. "I don't need to make it more plain: Matt's the starter."

That asswipe had his head so far up his own ****ing ass. That's why it's stupid to say, "Every other team passed on Russell Wilson." They passed on Russell Wilson. Pioli IGNORED Russell Wilson. That's the ****ing difference.

I swear. I'll be 50 years old and Pioli could be walking down the street and I'd still punch him the throat. As he's dying I'd whisper "Should've taken Wilson, asshole!"

And now the mother ****er gives interviews and talks about how Russell Wilson had the best interview of anyone he's ever interviewed at the combine. He gushes over Wilson, but refused to even consider him because he was dying to prove Cassel was the right move.

Hell, I was told a story years ago about how Kaepernick was who a lot of scouts wanted as our #1 that year and it was Pioli's call for Baldwin.

Pioli could kill himself and I wouldn't care. That's how much I ****ing hate that prick. What a ****ing waste of air.

You might want to have a drink or a toke.

Jesus.

Currently having a drink...still hate the asshole.

yep, and i'm having a toke and i hate the asshole too...

Every GM skips over prospects in favor of their own QBs. For all we know, there's a 4th rounder from the 2015 draft that we passed over in favor of Smith.

I just don't understand complaining about Wilson. It's amazing that he is what he is today, but there was an overwhelming chance that he'd be a league backup or worse when he was drafted. It doesn't matter how smart or how much heart some players have, if they don't have the size, they're not going to make it in the league. Wilson is 5'10. The list of good modern era QBs under 6'1 basically starts and stops at Brees.

So yeah, its amazing that it worked out for Seattle, but that shouldn't bother anybody on any team. Passing on a 5'10 QB in the third round is only a mistake that you see in hindsight.

This isn't like the Houston situation where he was a 1st round selection and only dropped because of weed. Wilson was never expected to be great or frankly even good. He was supposed to be at best Matt Flynn's backup.

Are you guys still pissed we didn't draft Brady?
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And didn't Haley pretty much have to lose his shit in order to draft Eric Berry in 2010?