NFL, MLB and NBA players are greedy ****s. MLB most of all. If they wanted a deal done so they could play then it would be done. They play a game for money and clout and that's it. They don't care about the fans or any of that shit no matter what they say. They want as much money as they can get. Ward is a perfect example. He will get overpaid by a loser team instead of taking a good deal with us. He could care less about winning just give me the money. That attitude will make him suck.

All this shit is on the players and their attitude. No other job would employees get to act like they do.

Dammit! I even thought it out. “Brett was a lefty, oppo gonna be out toward Tyler O’Neill…”

And then STILL typed in RF.

Yeah, the shift is rarely used against righties anyway. So it really is lefties that have to deal with it.

Oh. Well if an AGENT says it…

You sure do have a type when it comes to the sources you choose to believe.

Again - this is the same approach the owners attempted in ‘94. The players wouldn’t come to the table and eventually the strike happened. To act like the owners could just plod bravely forward especially in light of how aggressive and strident the players have been in this process is to ignore history.

Okay. So you made up your mind on Day 1 and have ignored anything that didn’t come from an agent or MLBPA mouthpiece since.

Got it.

I have a hard time backing the MLBPA. They have fully guaranteed contracts and basically no salary cap. The CBT is the flimsiest version of a salary cap you can have and even if it was more of a deterrent to keep teams from spending, it's still millions of dollars more than the NFL salary cap.

Raising the CBT doesn't do much for the average player, but putting an actual salary cap with a floor forces teams to spend more.

Say the floor was $120 million last year. 13 teams would have been under that number.

These are the teams and how far under they are

COL $4 mil
MIL $21 mil
TEX $25 mil
KC $29 mil
ARI $29 mil
OAK $30 mil
DET $34 mil
SEA $37 mil
TB $50 mil
MIA $62 mil
PIT $66 mil
CLE $70 mil
BAL $78 mil

I see the owners had proposed a $100 mil floor and $180 mil CBT. If the MLBPA countered with $120 mil floor and $180 mil CBT, then MLB might agree.

Last year only 8 teams would have been over the $180 mil

LAD $86 mil
NYY $25 mil
NYM $21 mil
PHI $17 mil
HOU $14 mil
BOS $7 mil
LAA $349k

Teams that didn't meet the floor the total is $535 million
If the floor were $100 million then the total would be $275 million

Teams over CBT total is $170.349 million

That's between $105 million and $365 million more for the players.
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I'm not sure what the big pushback is from the players is.

yup

Nothing more than a mindless dogmatic refusal being pushed primarily by a few superstars and powerful agents.

Again - it’s amazing that suddenly a union is ARGUING for trickle down economic theory.

You're such a dipshit.

They get paid what they get paid, because without the players there is no product and the billionaire owners wouldn't be taking in hundreds of millions to billions of dollars a year without them.

MLB owners need to take a page from the NFL owners playbook and target the average players.

The players need better representation, because it seems like they're not playing just because the CBT isn't high enough. That literally effects like 1% of players, possibly 5% at most. It's ****ing dumb.

This whole thing reminds me of how the highly paid QBs hated the newest NFL labor deal. It worked for 90% of the players but those QBs wept about it.

The MLBPA should focus on helping the vast majority not the privileged few.

OMG you idiot. Owners own in all billion dollar businesses. Only in sports do the workers demand such high salaries. If you become a billionaire does that mean you pay massive millions to every employee? **** no. But without the workers there would be no product? So ****ing what? There are thousands of players that would play for a lot less. Players are greedy ****s with big egos and they make a shit ton, even the bad ones. The only reason the season is not starting is players greed.

That's why the latest CBA for the NFL was done so quickly. The owners catered to the JAGs.

Everyone go tell your boss that you want what these greedy ****ing players want and see what happens.

At this point in my life I could careless if MLB ever plays again and the same goes for the NBA.

Gave up watching years ago.

The players (most of them) have been millionaires since their late teens early 20’s and have never worked a hard day in their life. They don’t understand the value of a dollar.