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Rainbarrel 01-02-2022 09:12 PM

Without robotic birds and prophetic demons trapped in the bodies of pain intolerant hostages. These ideas will all die on social media

bobbything 01-02-2022 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 16049627)
It's the same ****ing thing. ****!

Why are you arguing semantics? What difference does it make?

durtyrute 01-02-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16049628)
0h man..it was unreal how much they allowed him to be held.

Man, it was terrible. That was around the time I first started to notice the rigging or influencing or whatever. A person can only see instances like those so many times without thinking something's up....hahaha.

Easy 6 01-02-2022 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16049607)
I wouldn’t say the NFL ‘rigs games’, per say.

I would say there was a LOT of questionable officiating at the end of that game (all which seemed to work in the Bengals favor) and also the ‘hold’ on the Pringle return that had nothing to do with the play. Yeah, it was technically a hold, but you could call a hold like that literally on every play. The refs usually swallow their whistle their and this time they chose not to and I honestly believe it was because they were trying to keep the game ‘close’ going into the second half. NFL didn’t want a blowout in the first half, which is what it would have been had that TD counted.

So ‘rigged’ ? No. Outcome ‘influenced’ heavily by officials? Most definitely.

Too many of you guys wanna dance around the obvious in spite of the asinine outcomes we all see every single week, scared to be viewed as konspiracy kooks by all the popular kids IMO

No it isn't scripted to the level of WWE, but week after week and year after year we can't ignore our eyes... these refs are able to dominate games with ZERO consequences

GloryDayz 01-02-2022 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 16049627)
It's the same ****ing thing. ****!

No it's not. Influence still gives the one side a chance, but it's an uphill battle. You know, not calling penalties on the favored team vs calling them on the other team. Rigged is straight-out rigged.

And that's where the power in the "subjective" calls ("there's a hold on every play:....) is provided to officials to influence games.

Spott 01-02-2022 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16049641)
Too many of you guys wanna dance around the obvious in spite of the asinine outcomes we all see every single week, scared to be viewed as konspiracy kooks by all the popular kids IMO

No it isn't scripted to the level of WWE, but week after week and year after year we can't ignore our eyes... these refs are able to dominate games with ZERO consequences

If you pay attention close enough, you can see early on which games they are trying to push a certain direction. Usually it starts with little things like bad spots that are about about a yard off each time and almost always in one team’s favor.

If anyone is naïve enough to think the NFL isn’t influencing some of these games on purpose, they need to have their head examined.

GloryDayz 01-02-2022 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16049628)
0h man..it was unreal how much they allowed him to be held.

But remember, NFL officials call everything they see, but only see what they want.

wachashi 01-02-2022 09:25 PM

Reid mentioned in his presser the Pringle kickoff return TD that was called back due to a penalty. He didn’t say whether or not he thought it was a bad call, but it seemed like he was implying that it was. I didn’t catch the replay on that. Did it look like a bad call or was it fairly obvious holding?

Mecca 01-02-2022 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 16049612)
How often do refs really decide to "swallow their whistle" on Chiefs kick returns? We get flagged frequently on those.

I sometimes think it's because they view it as we score slot we don't need extra scores or great field position to make it worse.

GloryDayz 01-02-2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16049641)
Too many of you guys wanna dance around the obvious in spite of the asinine outcomes we all see every single week, scared to be viewed as konspiracy kooks by all the popular kids IMO

No it isn't scripted to the level of WWE, but week after week and year after year we can't ignore our eyes... these refs are able to dominate games with ZERO consequences

If anything bothers me, it's probably that. For a group of people who publicly stand in judgment of players, it would be nice to know that these crews are being evaluated. I'm sure they are, but for all we know it's nothing more than some folks meeting at Denny's and having a patty melt and shooting the shit about their last flights, hotel stays, and what their grandkids are doing. And that the league won't allow any decent to be voiced about these part time employees.

EDIT: It really feeds the conspiracy theory. And I think the NFL likes that..

Mecca 01-02-2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16049646)
If you pay attention close enough, you can see early on which games they are trying to push a certain direction. Usually it starts with little things like bad spots that are about about a yard off each time and almost always in one team’s favor.

If anyone is naïve enough to think the NFL isn’t influencing some of these games on purpose, they need to have their head examined.

Rewatch the game...there's a side judge that spots the ball wrong 3 times and he's responsible for 3 of the flags that are just bad calls....ringer?

Ghost of Maslowski 01-02-2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16049650)
Reid mentioned in his presser the Pringle kickoff return TD that was called back due to a penalty. He didn’t say whether or not he thought it was a bad call, but it seemed like he was implying that it was. I didn’t catch the replay on that. Did it look like a bad call or was it fairly obvious holding?

see for yourself, replay is in slow motion and they flagged KC #39

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TimBone 01-02-2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 16049452)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like we have a late substitution at the referee position in Cincinnati. Ron Torbert is in for John Hussey. This is the first unscheduled white hat substitution of the season <a href="https://t.co/kIhjYzYBtC">pic.twitter.com/kIhjYzYBtC</a></p>— Fᴏᴏᴛʙᴀʟʟ Zᴇʙʀᴀs (@footballzebras) <a href="https://twitter.com/footballzebras/status/1477704333529686020?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This fact seems…pertinent: Torbert has the third-highest percentage of home teams with fewer penalties at .692.</p>— Mark Owens (@hooptveast) <a href="https://twitter.com/hooptveast/status/1477818588274774018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also seemingly pertinent: Torbert replaced John Hussey, who’s at the other end of the home-team-gets-the-calls spectrum. Hussey is tied for the lowest percentage of home teams with fewer penalties at .182.</p>— Mark Owens (@hooptveast) <a href="https://twitter.com/hooptveast/status/1477819950244978693?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

eDave, why did we get switched to this officiating crew last minute today?

Clyde Frog 01-02-2022 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16049650)
Reid mentioned in his presser the Pringle kickoff return TD that was called back due to a penalty. He didn’t say whether or not he thought it was a bad call, but it seemed like he was implying that it was. I didn’t catch the replay on that. Did it look like a bad call or was it fairly obvious holding?


It was a hold. But the frustrating part was unless he was going to shed his block and catch a 4.4 runner who was already 10 yards in front of him w a full head of steam it had 0 influence on the play.


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TimBone 01-02-2022 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 16049460)
So they essentially replaced the Ref we were supposed to have who has the least amount of home team victories with a Ref that has the 3rd most home team victories.....

And yet to see an explanation as to why

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16049493)
Can you explain why the NFL replaced the ref with the lowest percentage of calls against the visiting team with the ref who far and away leads the league with calls against the visiting team?

I'd be real interested in how you'd care to explain that.

I'm hoping eDave has the answer.


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