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Mav 09-10-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9960030)
actually the last time kapernick threw for over 300 they beat green bay.

Technically. No, he threw for 400 yards.....:D

Mav 09-10-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9960351)
My boyz Genoz gonnas get twerked Tursday!

There, I translated. That means I roughly agree.

Amendola isn't going to play. The Pats defense isn't that good, and the Jets defense is.

I don't think its going to be the body blow that everyone thinks. Im starting to believe that this Jets team is going to be better than I thought.

Red Gorilla 09-10-2013 02:07 PM

The Pats literally aren't going to practice this week at all. They are just doing walk throughs.

BigCatDaddy 09-10-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9960360)
Amendola isn't going to play. The Pats defense isn't that good, and the Jets defense is.

I don't think its going to be the body blow that everyone thinks. Im starting to believe that this Jets team is going to be better than I thought.

Holy shit. I think Amendola might as fragile as school girl.

Mav 09-10-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9960396)
Holy shit. I think Amendola might as fragile as school girl.

LOL. um hmmmm. And pats fans I know.

"we will be fine, we found the next wes welker, who might be better than the original."

Kid you not.

BigCatDaddy 09-10-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9960400)
LOL. um hmmmm. And pats fans I know.

"we will be fine, we found the next wes welker, who might be better than the original."

Kid you not.

He might be as good, but he doesn't do any good on the sidelines.

Alex Smiff 09-10-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9959946)
That's a very under rated trait to have in a QB. We'll have to see it here and I hope we do. I still think it's foolish to think being able to whip out 350-400 yards through the air isn't an asset for a QB. I'm sure you of all people can appreciate that now after Sunday.

Clutch? ROFLROFLROFL

Alex Smiff 09-10-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9960014)
The last time Kaep threw for 300 yards it resulted in a lost superbowl. I've heard it said that YPA is probably a better indicator of how well a QB is playing than total yards. It's fun to watch, but I think if you broke it down statistically, throwing 300+ yards probably has very little correlation with wins. That said, I agree that being ABLE to whip out big passing games is always an asset.

As a 9er fan I can say that this is the best receiving core the 9ers have had since Owens left. I'm not trying to suggest that Alex could or could not have done it also. I think Kaep is benefiting what is the most offensive talent the team has had since the glory years. I also think that Kaep might be the most talented QB in the NFL that won't be retiring in the next few years.

You try so hard to put down Kaep and prop up Alex, it's pathetic. Nothing but hyperbole with you.

Jakemall 09-10-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9961491)
You try so hard to put down Kaep and prop up Alex, it's pathetic. Nothing but hyperbole with you.

Please don't use words you don't understand.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9959733)
He brought the 49ers from behind in the NFCC. A fumble ruined that for them, but you can't (even though you have tried) pin that on Smith. He has proven he can take a team from behind in big games.

Well shit! That settles it then! Axl has graduated from Game Management per Splatbass!

Mav 09-10-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961609)
Well shit! That settles it then! Axl has graduated from Game Management per Splatbass!

No he hasn't. But there is no question that he is the elite game manager in football today :D

Baby Lee 09-10-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9958657)
You see, in Geno's case, "a win is a win" doesn't apply. Geno must execute FLAWLESS PERFORMANCE while simultaneously countering every offensive penalty with an automatic eleventy-yard gain, culminating in a choco-jizz fountain of touchdowns replete with singing midgets dancing around a 12" Stonehenge in the end zone.

18"

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/rTZXp0dSzTw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9961769)
18"

<iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/rTZXp0dSzTw" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

"This is the piece"??? LMAO

Saccopoo 09-10-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9960360)
Amendola isn't going to play. The Pats defense isn't that good, and the Jets defense is.

I don't think its going to be the body blow that everyone thinks. Im starting to believe that this Jets team is going to be better than I thought.

When you take out the worst starting QB over the past three years not named Cassel, it's amazing how much better a team can get.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9961786)
When you take out the worst starting QB over the past three years not named Cassel, it's amazing how much better a team can get.

This is true. Cassel was the worst possible option for this team in 2009, bar none.

LowExpectations 09-10-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9961491)
You try so hard to put down Kaep and prop up Alex, it's pathetic. Nothing but hyperbole with you.

He seems to forget Axel wasting Crabtree's talents for 3 years before Kaepernick turned him into an elite wide receiver judging by production.

Guy has serious fanboy issues, kind of sad.

ViperVisor 09-10-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9961801)
He seems to forget Axel wasting Crabtree's talents for 3 years before Kaepernick turned him into an elite wide receiver judging by production.

Guy has serious fanboy issues, kind of sad.

Brandon Lloyd was the best WR in the NFL a few years ago.

judging by production.

LowExpectations 09-10-2013 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9961818)
Brandon Lloyd was the best WR in the NFL a few years ago.

judging by production.

And that year, he was. Another receiver that went on to higher production after leaving Smith.

Great point! ROFL

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 12:27 AM

Oh man. Just watched the Jets game. Geno had a really nice outing. Made some great throws , used his legs really well.

He's already improved a lot from preseason.

GIFs tomorrow!

This was Geno's first NFL pass. BAZINGA, BITCHES.

http://i.imgur.com/mYBTob1.gif

ViperVisor 09-11-2013 12:54 AM

Staring down his target and bounce bounce bounce before throwing.

Did it on the Winslow TD as well.

With protection and space most QBs succeed.

Quick, smart decisions with accurate throws are why good QBs are good.

Looks like the idiotic defense the Bears rolled out in Kaepernicks first start. They expect that to work vs. anyone above Tebow level of passing ability?

ViperVisor 09-11-2013 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9961825)
And that year, he was. Another receiver that went on to higher production after leaving Smith.

Great point! ROFL

Orton > Brady?

Alex Smiff 09-11-2013 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9961949)
Staring down his target and bounce bounce bounce before throwing.

Did it on the Winslow TD as well.

With protection and space most QBs succeed.

Quick, smart decisions with accurate throws are why good QBs are good.

Looks like the idiotic defense the Bears rolled out in Kaepernicks first start. They expect that to work vs. anyone above Tebow level of passing ability?

Reading this from a Smith fanboy is simply ROFLROFLROFL

BigMeatballDave 09-11-2013 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9961919)
Oh man. Just watched the Jets game. Geno had a really nice outing. Made some great throws , used his legs really well.

He's already improved a lot from preseason.

GIFs tomorrow!

This was Geno's first NFL pass. BAZINGA, BITCHES.

http://i.imgur.com/mYBTob1.gif

You see nothing wrong with this play from Geno?

Marcellus 09-11-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9961949)
Staring down his target and bounce bounce bounce before throwing.

Did it on the Winslow TD as well.

That looked shockingly like a Chocolate Matt Cassel.

Bad footwork and still late getting the ball to a guy open by 5 yards.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-11-2013 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9961919)
Oh man. Just watched the Jets game. Geno had a really nice outing. Made some great throws , used his legs really well.

He's already improved a lot from preseason.

GIFs tomorrow!

This was Geno's first NFL pass. BAZINGA, BITCHES.

http://i.imgur.com/mYBTob1.gif

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9962088)
That looked shockingly like a Chocolate Matt Cassel.

Bad footwork and still late getting the ball to a guy open by 5 yards.

ROFL Chocolate Matt Cassel? Really?

Let it flow, Marcellus:

http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/gt...6a9fbfaec2.jpg

KCrockaholic 09-11-2013 06:48 AM

Genoooooooo

KCrockaholic 09-11-2013 06:54 AM

Guys that gif is horrible. 20 yard passes need to be flawless every time. And if they're not, then Geno just sucks. Even if the pass is complete.

BigCatDaddy 09-11-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9961919)
Oh man. Just watched the Jets game. Geno had a really nice outing. Made some great throws , used his legs really well.

He's already improved a lot from preseason.

GIFs tomorrow!

This was Geno's first NFL pass. BAZINGA, BITCHES.

http://i.imgur.com/mYBTob1.gif

Hey! That ball traveled more than 20 yards in the air! Cue the Picard WTF is shit meme :D

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 12:16 PM

The alternate angle is really great. He's waiting for Kerley to clear the defender. He throws the ball with great anticipation of Kerley breaking open. Just a doozy of a throw for your first NFL snap.

Also, the Jets offensive line is really good. They played well against Tampa and Geno had time to throw mostly. Great asset going forward for Geno.

AliceSmith 09-11-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9961949)
Staring down his target and bounce bounce bounce before throwing.

Did it on the Winslow TD as well.

With protection and space most QBs succeed.

Quick, smart decisions with accurate throws are why good QBs are good.

Looks like the idiotic defense the Bears rolled out in Kaepernicks first start. They expect that to work vs. anyone above Tebow level of passing ability?


How many times did you masturbate to Alice Smith last night?

Easy 6 09-11-2013 12:34 PM

My question is this... between Smythe and Smith, which QB is most likely to not only get to the playoffs, but win a game or two, between 2013 and 2014?

Mav 09-11-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963130)
The alternate angle is really great. He's waiting for Kerley to clear the defender. He throws the ball with great anticipation of Kerley breaking open. Just a doozy of a throw for your first NFL snap.

Also, the Jets offensive line is really good. They played well against Tampa and Geno had time to throw mostly. Great asset going forward for Geno.

I thought it was the proper read. he waited till the receiver came in the window.

I don't know why anyone would make a big deal out of it.

I thought it was a nice pass.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9963194)
My question is this... between Smythe and Smith, which QB is most likely to not only get to the playoffs, but win a game or two, between 2013 and 2014?

Clearly you're going to construct arguments that favor Alex Smith so why even enter the thread?

Mav 09-11-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9963194)
My question is this... between Smythe and Smith, which QB has the most potential to not only get to the playoffs, but win a game or two, between 2013 and 2014?

How is this relevant?

You are comparing apples to oranges. Its Alex Smith obviously.

Hes on a much better team. Im not going to crown Geno yet because of beating what appears to be an overrated Tampa bay team because they are still starting the wildly erratic and error prone Josh Freeman.

I cant understand it with that guy either. hes so super talented.


I don't think that Geno Smith would win as many games on the Chiefs this year as Alex Smith will.

That's mainly because he is a rookie, who is going to have rookie moments. He would take chances that weren't needed that Alex Smith wont. He would make more highlight plays, but the mistakes that rookies make would be there. Hes aggressive. Really aggressive. Lessons have to be learned.

Easy 6 09-11-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963201)
Clearly you're going to construct arguments that favor Alex Smith so why even enter the thread?

Obviously, its a hypothetical, but if Geno played for KC, do you think he would likely be able to accomplish those things?

Personally, I have my doubts due to his youth, and I don't want to waste the next two years of our best players careers.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9963223)
Personally, I have my doubts due to his youth, and I don't want to waste the next two years of our best players careers.

LMAO

Alex Smith isn't winning anything of note here. He is a waste of our time, and their careers.

The fact you don't get that is hilarious.

If Geno turns out to be a good QB who's to say he couldn't take a good team to a SB in his first four or five seasons?

Mav 09-11-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963247)
LMAO

Alex Smith isn't winning anything of note here. He is a waste of our time, and their careers.

The fact you don't get that is hilarious.

If Geno turns out to be a good QB who's to say he couldn't take a good team to a SB in his first four or five seasons?

I love your absolutes.

If Geno,
But you are an absolute on Alex Smith.

That's what I find hilarious.

Red Gorilla 09-11-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963247)
LMAO

Alex Smith isn't winning anything of note here. He is a waste of our time, and their careers.

The fact you don't get that is hilarious.

If Geno turns out to be a good QB who's to say he couldn't take a good team to a SB in his first four or five seasons?

Sorry man but, you're the one that doesn't get it. Smith, Daniels, Reid, and Dorsey are here for at least three years. Geno is absolutely irrelevant to the Chiefs now, and probably forever. The majority don't care if Geno ends up being good because he will never be good as a Chief. If he ends up being good, the Jets will keep him for a long time. If he ever winds up on the Chiefs he will probably have either have sucked in New York and will be our back up. Or, will be old and far past his prime.

It's pretty funny that you would accuse others of wasting their time. You have 156,000 posts and I would bet 3/4 of them are about Geno or QBs.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla (Post 9963387)
Sorry man but, you're the one that doesn't get it. Smith, Daniels, Reid, and Dorsey are here for at least three years.

No, I get it quite clearly.

They're going to be here for a long time. And while Alex Smith is here, which will be 4 or 5 years, there will be NO CHAMPIONSHIP.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9963257)
I love your absolutes.

If Geno,
But you are an absolute on Alex Smith.

That's what I find hilarious.

That's because we know what Alex Smith is.

He isn't changing.

Geno is still a question mark...who just happened to lead his team to victory in his first start.

duncan_idaho 09-11-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla (Post 9963387)
Sorry man but, you're the one that doesn't get it. Smith, Daniels, Reid, and Dorsey are here for at least three years. Geno is absolutely irrelevant to the Chiefs now, and probably forever. The majority don't care if Geno ends up being good because he will never be good as a Chief. If he ends up being good, the Jets will keep him for a long time. If he ever winds up on the Chiefs he will probably have either have sucked in New York and will be our back up. Or, will be old and far past his prime.

It's pretty funny that you would accuse others of wasting their time. You have 156,000 posts and I would bet 3/4 of them are about Geno or QBs.

I think saying Smith is here for at least 3 years is premature.

It's clear Andy Reid had higher expectations for him than what Alex Smith showed against Jacksonville. If he spends all of this season failing to meet those expectations, I highly doubt Smith is a Chief past the end of this contract.

And that would be the right move. Whether it was worth the picks or not would be up for debate at that point.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 02:34 PM

We traded two high picks for him.

They're not gonna dump him that quickly.

BigCatDaddy 09-11-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963589)
We traded two high picks for him.

They're not gonna dump him that quickly.

I don't know. They cut the 6th round FB at first cuts this year. They seem to be fine admiting if they ****ed up.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 02:41 PM

We traded two high picks for him.

They're not gonna dump him that quickly.

BigCatDaddy 09-11-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963604)
We traded two high picks for him.

They're not gonna dump him that quickly.

They aren't going to lose to validate the using of those picks. This isn't your Pioli Chiefs.

beach tribe 09-11-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9963619)
They aren't going to lose to validate the using of those picks. This isn't your Pioli Chiefs.

This. If Smith cant turn the ball loose the way Reid wants, Bray will see the field next season, and all this milk DUD worship will be over.

beach tribe 09-11-2013 03:13 PM

This thread is tired BTW.

Just the same argument with people repeating themselves over and over./

Neither side will budge until one QB has had time to fail.

I will say this. No excuses for Alex. Not the WRs, O-line, or scheme. He has this yr to prove himself IMO.

Otherwise we need to be looking at other options. I wont be convinced that Reid and co. are going to blindly latch their wagon to him like Pioli did, until he gets a new long term deal.

duncan_idaho 09-11-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9963676)
This. If Smith cant turn the ball loose the way Reid wants, Bray will see the field next season, and all this worship of an UDFA who has a strong history of being an immature/inconsistent douchebag who can't take advantage of his natural abilities will be over.

FYP

beach tribe 09-11-2013 03:26 PM

And to further my spot on comparison of Geno to Aaron Brooks, Brooks also won his first start beating the Defending SB champion Rams 31-24.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9963732)
And to further my spot on comparison of Geno to Aaron Brooks, Brooks also won his first start beating the Defending SB champion Rams 31-24.

And he lost the week before in a game in which he threw 22 passes.

Nice try, Lao Che.

Geno > Brooks

Shit, he's already having a better season so far than Cam Newton. DANE?

beach tribe 09-11-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9963696)
FYP

He was 20 yrs old. Is 21 now. Still one of the youngest QBs in the league.

The staff has said he has been nothing but profesional. Staying late. Working with his recievers.

His immaturity as a youngster is the best thing that could have happened to us.

We struck GOLD.

beach tribe 09-11-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963736)
And he lost the week before in a game in which he threw 22 passes.

Nice try, Lao Che.

Geno > Brooks

Shit, he's already having a better season so far than Cam Newton. DANE?

He came into that game after they were already getting whipped muchacho.

So you think hes better than Cam. The first player in history with 40 ptds, and 20 rtds in his 1st two seasons. They are both crybabies, and Cam is WORLDS better.

If you think Geno will have a better year than Cam, youre not dumb. You are insane.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 04:37 PM

I think Geno will eventually be a better QB than Cam. That's what I said in the offseason.

So far, so good. :evil:

Cam SUCKED on Sunday.

Mav 09-11-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963502)
That's because we know what Alex Smith is.

He isn't changing.

Geno is still a question mark...who just happened to lead his team to victory in his first start.

You don't know shit about Alex Smith. That's been my problem with you from the beginning. Everything in your life is a STAT.

You don't know the first thing about Alex Smith.

The fact that I told you from the moment I got here exactly how Alex Smith was going to help the Chiefs win games, and ironically enough, a blue print of it was displayed in week one.

Its hilarious will all of your absolutes about Alex Smith, and especially the DEFENSE, im having more fun with that than anything else, because every time I mentioned the defense, you shouted how the Chiefs didn't have that, and from every indication they very well could.

Everything you said about what Alex could do, and wouldn't do, and couldn't do, and the defense, has been hilariously INCORRECT.

Im enjoying every single minute of this.

Mav 09-11-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9963593)
I don't know. They cut the 6th round FB at first cuts this year. They seem to be fine admiting if they ****ed up.

They sure did ship off Baldwin quickly too.

They don't mess around. They cut mistakes and move on. At least that's what I have noticed with Dorsey......

Mav 09-11-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963927)
I think Geno will eventually be a better QB than Cam. That's what I said in the offseason.

So far, so good. :evil:

Cam SUCKED on Sunday.

Against the SEAHAWKS?

Who knew. I guess if Kap struggles on sunday, (which he will by the way) then you are going to claim that Geno is gonna end up better than Kap too?

I like Geno as much as the next guy. But there is just a little bit of a difference in the Seahawks defense, and the Buccs.

vailpass 09-11-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9963938)
They sure did ship off Baldwin quickly too.

They don't mess around. They cut mistakes and move on. At least that's what I have noticed with Dorsey......

That's the only way to run a team....

Mav 09-11-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9963945)
That's the only way to run a team....

Oh, we know its not the only way.

But it is the best way to run a team successfully. Look at the Jags. They should of cut bait with Gabbert after year one. But, they are stubborn and stupid.

Some teams never learn. Hopefully the browns learn and kick weedens punk int loving ass out of town.

vailpass 09-11-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9963950)
Oh, we know its not the only way.

But it is the best way to run a team successfully. Look at the Jags. They should of cut bait with Gabbert after year one. But, they are stubborn and stupid.

Some teams never learn. Hopefully the browns learn and kick weedens punk int loving ass out of town.

Steelers,Pats, know the deal. It's hard but it's a business.

philfree 09-11-2013 07:02 PM

KCGenostalker.com?:hmmm:

Marcellus 09-11-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9963502)
That's because we know what Alex Smith is.

He isn't changing.


Geno is still a question mark...who just happened to lead his team to victory in his first start.

The only correct thing you have posted in this thread probably.

We do know what Alex Smith is, a playoff winning championship caliber QB.

He ain't changing. :clap:

BigCatDaddy 09-11-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9964244)
The only correct thing you have posted in this thread probably.

We do know what Trent Dilfer is, a Superbowl winning championship caliber QB.

He ain't changing. :clap:

:D

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9964244)
We do know what Alex Smith is, a playoff winning championship caliber QB.

Pass that blunt.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9963936)
Everything you said about what Alex could do, and wouldn't do, and couldn't do, and the defense, has been hilariously INCORRECT.

Uh, did you watch the ****ing game?

Alex Smith was exactly what I thought he was.

Checkdowns all ****ing day. Shit on third down. ONE sustained drive.

I did enjoy when he went deep to McCluster for 20 yards though.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-11-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9964244)
The only correct thing you have posted in this thread probably.

We do know what Alex Smith is, a playoff winning championship caliber QB.

He ain't changing. :clap:

I've been trying to figure something in my head, and maybe you can help me out, yeah? When a person is insane, as you clearly are, do you know that you're insane? Maybe you're just sitting around, reading Guns and Ammo, masturbating in your own feces, do you just stop and go, "Wow! It is amazing how ****ing crazy I really am!"? Do you guys do that?

Marcellus 09-11-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9964309)
I've been trying to figure something in my head, and maybe you can help me out, yeah? When a person is insane, as you clearly are, do you know that you're insane? Maybe you're just sitting around, reading Guns and Ammo, masturbating in your own feces, do you just stop and go, "Wow! It is amazing how ****ing crazy I really am!"? Do you guys do that?

Come on man my view on Alex is not that far fetched, I know hperbole mixed with sarcasm is your specialty but that's all your post is.


You know damn well Alex Smith with some help around him can get a team to a SB.

And no it doesn't have to be ridiculous help, just good supporting cast.

He isn't Aaron Rodgers, he isn't Manning, he isn't Brees.

Neither will Geno ever be close.

The problem here in general is too many people think you have to be elite or you suck. The reality is there are only a few elite QB's and then a bunch of guys than can get it done with some help.

edit: I am confident I am one of the more sane people here. This place is rather extreme on either end.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9964336)
You know damn well Alex Smith with some help around him can get a team to a SB.

Already proven false.

Alex is unlikely to ever be on a team that good again.

Hilarious that you prop up Alex while simultaneously saying Geno can never amount to shit.

Admit it, he already shocked you in his first start. You thought he was going to be a tornado of fail.

Mav 09-11-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9964295)
Uh, did you watch the ****ing game?

Alex Smith was exactly what I thought he was.

Checkdowns all ****ing day. Shit on third down. ONE sustained drive.

I did enjoy when he went deep to McCluster for 20 yards though.

But, no turnovers. The game was completely out of reach. And lets not pretend that only check downs were done. The very first play of the game was a deep pass to Fasano that went off Fasanos hands.

That's the thing with Alex Smith. Because he doesn't turn the ball over, his teams aren't usually trailing enough because of the run game, special teams, and defense that he doesn't ever have to force anything.

Now, the next few games. He will have to make more plays, or the Chiefs wont win. Will be interesting.

Marcellus 09-11-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9964345)
Already proven false.

Alex is unlikely to ever be on a team that good again.

Hilarious that you prop up Alex while simultaneously saying Geno can never amount to shit.

Admit it, he already shocked you in his first start. You thought he was going to be a tornado of fail.

LMAO you are so full of shit.

You know what was PROVEN false. Geno Smith is not a 1st round QB and that alone give Alex Smith a better shot of winning a SB based on your own criteria.

Suck on that asshole. LMAO

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9964346)
But, no turnovers.

No shit there were no turnovers. Alex avoids them like the plague. The one time he tried a dangerous pass it was almost picked. I'm sure he won't be doing that anymore.

Mav 09-11-2013 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9964345)
Already proven false.

Alex is unlikely to ever be on a team that good again.

Hilarious that you prop up Alex while simultaneously saying Geno can never amount to shit.

Admit it, he already shocked you in his first start. You thought he was going to be a tornado of fail.

Compare the Chiefs roster right now, to the 49ers roster of 2011.

You are full of crap.

The Chiefs team right now is every bit as good as that 49ers team was.

And that 49ers team was predicted to finish last in the division.

That's what I have been trying to explain to you, and you REFUSE to even listen. You don't have to accept it, you just refuse.

Mav 09-11-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9964353)
No shit there were no turnovers. Alex avoids them like the plague. The one time he tried a dangerous pass it was almost picked. I'm sure he won't be doing that anymore.

Yeah. And teams that win the turnover battle, have a 70 percent better chance of winning a game.

Im not sure how anyone could look at that as a negative after watching Chiefs qbs last year turn the ball over again and again.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9964352)
You know what was PROVEN false. Geno Smith is not a 1st round QB LMAO

He sure looked like one Sunday...

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9964354)
You are full of crap.

The Chiefs team right now is every bit as good as that 49ers team was.

Absolutely not true, and this will be borne out over the course of the year.

O.city 09-11-2013 07:54 PM

@NFLosophy: On offense, Geno was shaky all the way around. He had a hard time getting through progressions, defining keys, and with ball location.

Eleazar 09-11-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9964357)
Yeah. And teams that win the turnover battle, have a 70 percent better chance of winning a game.

Im not sure how anyone could look at that as a negative after watching Chiefs qbs last year turn the ball over again and again.

Last year, the team with the higher rated QB won games above 70% of the time, I think the stat I heard was.

Based on the fairly consistently high ratings Alex Smith has been posting over the last two seasons, I feel pretty good that he's going to be a massive upgrade for us.

Mav 09-11-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9964370)
Absolutely not true, and this will be borne out over the course of the year.

What was the biggest difference?

To begin the season I am saying?

Obviously, there was a lot more talent come the end of the season than we knew going in. But, I would say that the Chiefs receiving corps is better than the 49ers that season.

The running game is about the same, the qb is the same obviously. The secondary I would learn towards the chief with the front 7's being a push.

Where is this huge difference that you see?

Im not seeing it.

Marcellus 09-11-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 9964367)
He sure looked like one Sunday...

Yea he did resemble Christian Ponder a little bit so he did look like 1.

Mav 09-11-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 9964372)
Last year, the team with the higher rated QB won games above 70% of the time, I think the stat I heard was.

Based on the fairly consistently high ratings Alex Smith has been posting over the last two seasons, I feel pretty good that he's going to be a massive upgrade for us.

I would say that he already has been.

1-0

No turnovers. Pretty darn good start.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9964371)
@NFLosophy: On offense, Geno was shaky all the way around. He had a hard time getting through progressions, defining keys, and with ball location.

LMAO

So much bullshit.

He was 100% improved from his preseason debacle. And he had NO running game.


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