Speaking of Justin Houston, there was a sighting in St. Joe today, looks good!

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Dorsey is expecting Jamaal and Tamba to practice soon aka practicing at home after camp is over. Those guys have been in the system and are vets. They can play week 1 if they practice for 3 weeks.

Gaines has only been going full speed for not even 10 days. He's going to need some time to get ready. It does explain Dorsey picking multiple DB's in the draft. Hoping DJ White keeps looking good so we can hold off Gaines, but we'll see.

If there were a real game tomorrow, Tamba would be playing. He even got practices off during the regular season last year. He got his knee scoped, not repaired. Players get that done mid season and miss 3-4 weeks. I'm betting they are just letting his body get to as close to 100% as possible because it's a long season...not as much concerns with his knee.

Gaines looked just fine when I was there, I'm not concerned.

In about 3 weeks, the defense will get Berry and Hali back and the offense will get Charles back.
Pit will provide hype to start the regular season while trying to brush the Houston situation under the rug.

What I listen and look for is the tone and body language of Reid when he talks about any player but QBs especially and he is very high on Murray for sure. He was almost giddy in yesterday's presser.

That puts it pretty succinctly.

Everyone's speculating about recoveries but the fact is every knee recovery is different and if you haven't experienced it you can't begin to speculate. I had mine done my junior year 90 days after surgery I could grab rim at 5'11" 220 jumping off of my bad knee but not off of my good one. 1 month after that I could jog 2 miles but I wouldn't begin to think about making hard cuts on the basketball court until about 8 months after. It's a strange process you can be better than you were physically but you have to lest to trust your body again.

Adrian Peterson bounced back like it never happened on a short recovery. Jamaal Charles didn't really look like himself till he broke a long one against the saints then it's like a light came on.

I remember that run. That was sweet.

I was driving back from Springfield to Tulsa after a disappointing trip to buy a car. Listening on the radio. We were in the game with field goals only then they ran behind Albert I believe Charles made one move and was never touched! It was glorious!

Speaking of Jamaal...

Jamaal is back on the field practicing.

This guy is going to rape this year

That's awesome... Wish we would of held him out for a little while though. Would rather preserve him as much as possible for the playoffs.

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He can practice but no need to have him play until the Charger game.




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Looks like he's already done, just did some stretching and individual work. I like it.

Individual portion of practice is over. Jamaal Charles just left the practice field and went to the locker room....

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Not that I disagree with his opinion here, but I've found that Carpenter's "takes" are largely pulled out of his posterior OR spoon fed to him by his boss, Kiki.

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DJ went ahead and laid Jamaal out with a wicked hit just to say welcome back. :D

Just kidding of course-but I would guess the hardest JC has been hit has came from DJ. That Pro bowl hit was insane. I guess that is what friends do? :hmmm: Hopefully DJ and the rest of the D. will take it easy on him for the remainder of camp.

No, he needs to get used to the hits!

Charles off pup, that's awesome. Let him come back slow, same with hali.

It's awesome that our starting safety hasn't practiced ywt though.

Not the least bit worried about Berry. He'll be better off than he was last year to start the season.

He's just being a leader. No big deal.

We've got alot of newer faces in the secondary. It would be nice for him to get some run with them before we have to open up against rivers.

He will be in good physical shape, but if he hasn't played a preseason game or snap before he comes in the week before sd, it'll take some time to knock off the rust.

Not ideal

Bring in Cromartie. That would be nice.

He won't be as rusty as he was to start the year last year, I'm pretty confident about that.

The mental rust isn't as much of an obstacle as the physical. It's not like he hasn't play in this defense for 3 years.

He's going to get hurt.

Nobody just walks off the street and plays an NFL game and doesn't get dinged. He'll get a tweak, it'll linger and he won't be as effective as he'd be if he'd just get his ass in here and do the job that he's going to be paid nearly $12 million to do over the coming months. But he won't care because it's guaranteed.

It's a low rent move by a guy that we were supposed to believe was better than that.

LMAO

Pure speculation. It might be more likely, but you can't say that definitevly.

I agree dj. Hard to side with the guy making a Brinks load of cash skipping out on the hard work. Entitled overpaid primadonnas. Tougher to watch pro sports every year.

It's part of the game and the rules so it doesn't bother me at all.

But let's stop with the "He's a leader" and "The locker room isn't complete with out him" bullshit.

All 90 guys on the roster are fighting for their professional lives. They know what's at stake, regardless of Eric Berry's presence or absence.

It's not speculation to call skipping out on camp because you have a guaranteed $12 million fall back option (and couldn't be bothered to take less than that a year) a bush league move.

He should be here. He wasn't cheated, he wasn't low-balled. He was given a fair offer, he thinks he can do better and that's his right. It's also his goddamn job to be in here working with his teammates.

I honestly don't disagree with any of that.

If you're not paying for intangibles, he's a box safety with average to slightly above average ball skills.

In other words, he's a $7-$8 million player.

And he's established that whatever intangibles he possesses, they aren't worth paying for if he's skipping practices the moment he is no longer the highest paid safety in football.

Until he signs the tender, it's not his job.

Which in and of itself is dumb

He's elected to not sign the tender.

So he's elected to not have a job, by your calculus.

It's still bullshit.

Agreed.

I wish I had a 10 million dollar offer just sitting

This is where we part ways.

The 'why' of it bothers me a great deal. He's not skipping camp to protect himself from injury this year; he's skipping camp to protect himself from injury for next year, at the cost of increasing the chances of injury this year.

If he signs the tender and gets hurt, no big deal; the tender is fully guaranteed. So he's not holding off on signing the tender because he doesn't want to risk the $12 million. Moreover, it's not because he's hoping that a deal can be worked out and he doesn't want to injure himself and put that in jeopardy - the negotiating period is over. What he gets this year is absolutely set in stone.

This is all about next year. A man that's been paid $60 million by this organization and due another $12 million is already looking down the road to the team that will be willing to give him another $30+ million a year from now and in so doing, he's telling this organization that he's unwilling to fully dedicate himself to this team because somebody else will pay him later.

**** him. That's horseshit and I don't see how that doesn't bother you.

Eh, it is what it is. I'll never fault a player for attempting to maximize his worth or what he feels he's worth, whether in like it or not.

Good to hear that Charles is back on the practice field even if it's limited.

He still shouldn't see the real field until the 3rd preseason game. A few snap in game 3 to shake the rust, then pull him.

We have plenty of RBs to take the snaps.

I will when he's looking down the road a full season.

That's absolutely something worth holding against a player. It's no different than when Deion Sanders talked about making a 'business decision' when it came to open-field tackling.

He's making decisions now that are active detriments to his current employer so that he can make more money with a future employer. I'll absolutely fault him for that.

STs coach Dave Toub mentions rookies DJ White, Eric Murray and Terrance Smith as guys who impressed him last Saturday vs. Seahawks.

Glad to hear some positive remarks on Smith; dude's a talent.

But if Moses keeps playing well, I don't know that there's room for him. Maybe they just hide him on STs and squirrel him away on the PS.

i hope Berry is just pulling a Tony Gonzalez and avoiding training camp.

But Berry is giving all the other young safeties a chance to steal his job.


How good does a cheap young player have to be to take the job of a guy squeezing the team for 12 million?

It's a business. The Chiefs decided not to pay him that big extension and he's looking out for himself. I don't see any problem with that.

You make as much as you can in this league.

So you'll be cool with Poe going at half-speed or asking out of games because he needs to stay healthy for his big pay day next season?

Why are people fine with Tamba missing out on majority of practices to make sure he's as healthy as possible going into the season, but Berry is getting slandered?

Did Berry do this?

I know Tamba not clear to practice yet that I know of.

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That wouldn't maximize his earning potential.

Hopefully nothing to serious.

Dezman Moses stretching with the injured players.

Tamba is under contract. He had surgery but by all reports has been at OTA's, minicamp and training camp and he's been actively helping the young guys.

Berry is not signed and has been invisible.

Do you not see the difference?

If it does in fact hinder him and or the chiefs this year, yeah, I'll hold it against him.

If he shows up next week when they break camp and goes from there, I can't say i'm too awful upset about it.

Because the coaches made that choice?

zip it dumbass, no room for your crap here.

Berry needs to sign after the 2nd preseason game and it'll all be good with me. I'd hate to see him wait till after the last preseason game to sign and then get injured week 1. Of course we'd hate to see him injured in any scenario. Come in and practice for two weeks, play a series in the last preseason game and then kick ass.

This is ideal. If he just didn't want to do camp, that's cool


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And to think we could have drafted Taylor Mays and we wouldn't be going through all this drama.

or alex smith for 2 1sts

Berry is putting his effectiveness in jeopardy by not showing up to camp. If you have no problem with people putting business ahead of on-field performance, you're being wholly arbitrary in choosing where you draw your line.

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Clowney refused to do interview as he was walking off the field. Maybe he would have gotten injured talking to us.

Don't we always do that?

I mean, do you get mad at players for running out of bounds?

That's a little different. The chance of getting an extra 2 or 3 yards isn't worth an unnecessary hit.

Training camp and cohesion with teamates, along with the physical side of it is pretty necessary.

Terez said Conley had a fantastic day today.

can't even believe chiefs fans think any player in the nfl owes any team anything ever...thought we were savvier than that

but watching you all turn Berry into a villian has been a truly bizarre experience...especially the part where you dramatically mention how much he's paid...GASP [cue organ music]

just honestly ****ing weird, both the topic and the target

Exactly. How many times do we see guys do this then get hurt

It is but are you catching my drift?

Some people think players are being selfish for running out of bounds or alligator arming a catch over the middle with a S or MLB bearing down on them.

Give the staff more snaps to check out the young guys.




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I am forming an alliance with O and DJ on this issue

I understand where you're trying to go but I don't really agree myself.

Eh, alright. Was just throwing it out there. Seeing if it fit.

The rules say berry can do it this way, and it's his right. Honestly I don't really hold it against him.

I just want him in camp with all hands in deck so we can make the best effort we can at a SB

I am shocked this comment has warranted responses.

If you cannot discern the utter polar opposites of circumstance here, well.....
:rolleyes:

Gotcha.

Fans are pro team anti player alot. I get it, but it is what it is.

I don't hold it against him, either, but once again, let's stop with the "We're a family" and that Berry is a "Leader".

A leader would have signed his tender and participated in training camp.

Eh, he's a goner in 2017, anyway, so I'm happy that other guys are getting much needed reps and opportunities.