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TEX 09-19-2021 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844268)
He's kinda missed on alot of picks...

Sorensen plays over Thornhill, CEH blows, Hardman is an athlete more than a football player...

Speaks...

Chiefsbroker 09-19-2021 09:55 PM

Can we take a shot at Todd Gurley?

louie aguiar 09-19-2021 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844268)
He's kinda missed on alot of picks...

Sorensen plays over Thornhill, CEH blows, Hardman is an athlete more than a football player...

Don’t forget about the shitty Khalen Saunders pick

notorious 09-19-2021 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15844274)
Speaks...

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Mecca 09-19-2021 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15844274)
Speaks...

That whole draft was ass except Nnadi.

Bwana 09-19-2021 09:56 PM

Yep, I would call him a bust at this point. Slow, no vision and now he drops the rock. Bring up Gore.

TEX 09-19-2021 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15844259)
I told everybody to just wait it out on Clyde and give him a chance, because it's not always the case that your RB is going to be great from day one and sometimes even they need time to develop.

Maybe he'll still get better. Maybe he'll figure it out. But we're going to have to find out later, because we can't be ****ing around waiting for this asshole to learn how to put two and two together when we're trying to ****ing win another Super Bowl. We have other players like that on this team, but there's a special place where those guys go. It's called the bench.

So hand it off to Darrell. Or McKinnon. ****, hand it off to ****ing Michael Burton for all I care. But let Clyde figure his shit out for awhile and get himself straight and don't put him on the ****ing field until he's ready.

And if that doesn't happen, then pull the plug and move the **** on just like we did with Hunt.

You just had to bring up Hunt. :banghead:

comochiefsfan 09-19-2021 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844268)
He's kinda missed on alot of picks...

Sorensen plays over Thornhill, CEH blows, Hardman is an athlete more than a football player...

I generally like Veach.

BUT.....he's been getting the lion's share of the credit for a team whose core was built by John Dorsey.

Once Kelce and Hill are gone, we're really going to see what Veach is made of.

suzzer99 09-19-2021 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15844230)
He has no burst to turn 5 yard gains into 12 yard gains. 10 yard gains into house calls.

He’s just…too slow

He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

suzzer99 09-19-2021 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15844284)
Don’t forget about the shitty Khalen Saunders pick

Saunders looks pretty good out there this year.

Deberg_1990 09-19-2021 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15844297)
He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

Kind of what I’m wondering as well. He looked faster last year before he got hurt.

ARROW2 09-19-2021 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15844297)
He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.



hasn't been the same but **** him, he has to go or benched. Keep the ball in 15's hands at crunch time........I was just telling somebody that on the phone three drives ago. NO MORE HANDOFFS TO CLYDESDALE!!!

suzzer99 09-19-2021 10:00 PM

Maybe they can put him on the IR and bring up Gore.

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15844297)
He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

If he's being bothered by a groin injury from 8 months ago he probably should have seen a specialist in the off-season.

Buehler445 09-19-2021 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844238)
Not blaming Reid. Not fumbling a ball is the most basic function a RB has to execute.

Especially in that situation. If it's a 3rd or 4th down and they have to have it, that's one thing. This is purely a time waster. HOLD ONTO THE ****ING BALL GOD ****ING DAMN IT YOU ****ING ****.

RealSNR 09-19-2021 10:00 PM

Are some of you seriously shitting on Veach now?

Who's the best GM in the NFL? Pick a guy. Then look at his draft record. You'll probably find some glaring draft whiffs on that resume.

That's EVERY GM.

suzzer99 09-19-2021 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844322)
If he's being bothered by a groin injury from 8 months ago he probably should have seen a specialist in the off-season.

Maybe it healed but somehow in a way that slows him down.

Gary Cooper 09-19-2021 10:01 PM

I never thought I'd miss this man.

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Mecca 09-19-2021 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15844294)
I generally like Veach.

BUT.....he's been getting the lion's share of the credit for a team whose core was built by John Dorsey.

Once Kelce and Hill are gone, we're really going to see what Veach is made of.

His best moves is spending money on vets.

Sassy Squatch 09-19-2021 10:02 PM

The price of keeping Mahomes happy, I suppose.

chiefzilla1501 09-19-2021 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15844297)
He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

So was his other arm cupping his balls? Is that why he chose not to get that second arm in to protect the ball?

Pasta Little Brioni 09-19-2021 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844238)
Not blaming Reid. Not fumbling a ball is the most basic function a RB has to execute.

Even without the fumble, letting up like that us beyond absurd. It's not like they were in the redzone setting up for a chip shot. They had a minute plus to make the kick an afterthought and were apparently slowing things down to set up to run again to kick a near 50 yarder. Absolutely absurd.

suzzer99 09-19-2021 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15844357)
Even without the fumble, letting up like that us beyond absurd. It's not like they were in the redzone setting up for a chip shot. They had a minute plus to make the kick an afterthought and were apparently slowing things down to set up to run again to kick a near 50 yarder. Absolutely absurd.

Totally this. Call a pass, if it's not there Mahomes will run for 3 yards and stay in bounds.

chiefzilla1501 09-19-2021 10:04 PM

He is slow to hit the holes. But that's not the issue to me. Even last year he just barreled into holes. Priest holmes he is not.

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:05 PM

Is he also blind in his left eye?

notorious 09-19-2021 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14993811)
Emmitt Smith with better lateral movement.

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14929986)
He is going to be a stud.

I didn’t know I could be this excited about a player.


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kjwood75nro 09-19-2021 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15844347)
The price of keeping Mahomes happy, I suppose.

Gehrig Dieter.
Clyde Edwards-Helaire.

Hell, bring in Brittany as an assistant.

Sassy Squatch 09-19-2021 10:06 PM

LMAO

New World Order 09-19-2021 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844375)

I was high on him too.

I take back what I said

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:07 PM

Guess we shoulda taken Swift atleast he has burst.

Sassy Squatch 09-19-2021 10:08 PM

General consensus was that this was a damn good pick besides the positional value, but all those traits just vanished. It's actually baffling.

New World Order 09-19-2021 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844391)
Guess we shoulda taken Swift atleast he has burst.

Every other rb would have been better.

Dobbins, Taylor, Swift.

Prob forgetting one

smithandrew051 09-19-2021 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14928914)
Clyde Edwards-Helaire LSU career:

438 Touches
1 Fumble

After watching McCoy and even Damien fumble away 2 or 3 games last year, I’ll welcome this.

You ****ing idiot.

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15844400)
General consensus was that this was a damn good pick besides the positional value, but all those traits just vanished. It's actually baffling.

He got some money and decided to be a pumpkin.

New World Order 09-19-2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14928644)
He’s going to be so good in this offense.

Booooo!!!!

notorious 09-19-2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15844389)
I was high on him too.

I take back what I said

My level of stupidity in this thread is just as disappointing as CEH has been.


I'm JAP (Just a Poster), not a 1st round Chiefplanet Pick, though.

BigChiefFan 09-19-2021 10:10 PM

Edwards-Helaire just isn’t living up to his potential. I’ve been in his corner, but he really needs to up his game and start playing like a 1st round pick.

Deberg_1990 09-19-2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15844404)
Every other rb would have been better.

Dobbins, Taylor, Swift.

Prob forgetting one

Antonio Gibson

smithandrew051 09-19-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15844400)
General consensus was that this was a damn good pick besides the positional value, but all those traits just vanished. It's actually baffling.

Maybe he’s a method actor?

He probably figures that Mahomes will be in the football version of Space Jam eventually, so he’s planning to audition for the part of one of the players who gets his talents stolen by an alien.

Tribal Warfare 09-19-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15844400)
General consensus was that this was a damn good pick besides the positional value, but all those traits just vanished. It's actually baffling.

The hip & ankle sprain injury must've ****ed him up

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15844414)
Booooo!!!!

Then he got slow, lost his burst and became a non factor in the passing game.

New World Order 09-19-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844415)
My level of stupidity in this thread is just as disappointing as CEH has been.

I watched him at LSU bounce off tacklers, made nice cuts, caught the ball in space and made nice plays. Figured he would be great in an Andy Reid offense.

Nope.

Munson 09-19-2021 10:12 PM

He's playing like a washed up RB.

Hell, even Leveon Bell looked better than this last year, or McCoy from the year before.

RealSNR 09-19-2021 10:14 PM

You CAN, apparently, just roll with only undrafted guys and do just fine.

If we had traded CEH for Ty'Son Williams on Monday we would have won this game.

louie aguiar 09-19-2021 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15844330)
Are some of you seriously shitting on Veach now?

Who's the best GM in the NFL? Pick a guy. Then look at his draft record. You'll probably find some glaring draft whiffs on that resume.

That's EVERY GM.

I think he’s a fine gm but I think it’s fair criticism. This team’s best players are still John Dorsey players.

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:14 PM

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notorious 09-19-2021 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14929253)
We all know what NFL talent looks like.

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14929237)
Here's the ball.


Go make plays.

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14937281)
A certain poster is going to look very stupid after 2-3 years.


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Mecca 09-19-2021 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15844439)
You CAN, apparently, just roll with only undrafted guys and do just fine.

If we had traded CEH for Ty'Son Williams on Monday we would have won this game.

At that position you generally can do that...

srvy 09-19-2021 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15844294)
I generally like Veach.

BUT.....he's been getting the lion's share of the credit for a team whose core was built by John Dorsey.

Once Kelce and Hill are gone, we're really going to see what Veach is made of.

Were all pissed at the loss but this is a bit ignorant.

srvy 09-19-2021 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15844297)
He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

If he is still hurt set him down a let him get healthy. Relying on a rook and not resigning Damian was a huge mistake.

mr. tegu 09-19-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15844369)
He is slow to hit the holes. But that's not the issue to me. Even last year he just barreled into holes. Priest holmes he is not.


Yeah this isn’t new. I know I was complaining about his lack of speed and vision last season.

wazu 09-19-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 15844419)
Edwards-Helaire just isn’t living up to his potential. I’ve been in his corner, but he really needs to up his game and start playing like a 1st round pick.

This is where I am. Loved the pick, but it just seems like there are no big (positive) plays from this guy. Has he ever had a run of over 20 yards? Why don't they use him in the passing game? I have to assume it's because they don't think he's good at it, whereas I thought the deal with him was supposed to be that's where he shines the most.

SupDock 09-19-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844443)

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smithandrew051 09-19-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 15844465)
If he is still hurt set him down a let him get healthy. Relying on a rook and not resigning Damian was a huge mistake.

We didn’t need to re-sign Williams though. He was already under contract AND cheap. We chose to get rid of him.

mr. tegu 09-19-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15844439)
You CAN, apparently, just roll with only undrafted guys and do just fine.

If we had traded CEH for Ty'Son Williams on Monday we would have won this game.


Okay that just makes me sad.

srvy 09-19-2021 10:26 PM

WE will face a lot better defense next week than the Ravens. Also a lot better QB we better forget this one. I gotta trust Spags will get this ****ing defense in position and get off blocks to play better run D.

TEX 09-19-2021 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 15844419)
Edwards-Helaire just isn’t living up to his potential. I’ve been in his corner, but he really needs to up his game and start playing like a 1st round pick.

He is who he is. A slow smurf RB who never should have been a 1st round pick.

TEX 09-19-2021 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 15844529)
WE will face a lot better defense next week than the Ravens. Also a lot better QB we better forget this one. I gotta trust Spags will get this ****ing defense in position and get off blocks to play better run D.

I have zero confidence in that. Herbert and the Bolts are going to have a field day. The defense is terrible.

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15844538)
He is who he is. A slow smurf RB who never should have been a 1st round pick.

The next pick was Tee Higgins, couldn't use him eh?

smithandrew051 09-19-2021 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844555)
The next pick was Tee Higgins, couldn't use him eh?

Or Chase Claypool.

Take either of them, and you can still grab Antonio Gibson over Gay.

notorious 09-19-2021 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15844551)
I have zero confidence in that. Herbert and the Bolts are going to have a field day. The defense is terrible.

We deserve a little humbling to be honest.

Mahomes covers up so many shit stains.

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15844556)
Or Chase Claypool.

Take either of them, and you can still grab Antonio Gibson over Gay.

You could still have Gay, you'd have gotten more out of a UDFA..

dirk digler 09-19-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15844357)
Even without the fumble, letting up like that us beyond absurd. It's not like they were in the redzone setting up for a chip shot. They had a minute plus to make the kick an afterthought and were apparently slowing things down to set up to run again to kick a near 50 yarder. Absolutely absurd.

Yep and I honestly had no doubt we could easily score a TD. Let Mahomes do his thing Andy

lcarus 09-19-2021 10:34 PM

I hate to say it but Ubeja was right all along. I'm not just saying that because of the fumble. Several times so far this season he's looked slow. What looks like an 8-10 yard gain ends up a 4 yard gain because the linebacker beats him to the outside. He reminds me of Darren Sproles except Darren Sproles ran a 4.3. Clyde looks like he's running up the stairs in a Freddy Krueger nightmare.

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Sure-Oz 09-19-2021 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15844538)
He is who he is. A slow smurf RB who never should have been a 1st round pick.

Hes definitely not improving this offense. Pretty sure Williams and McKinnon can atleast do the same.

Looks like an avg back so far

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15844577)
I hate to say it but Ubeja was right all along. I'm not just saying that because of the fumble. Several times so far this season he's looked slow. What looks like an 8-10 yard gain ends up a 4 yard gain because the linebacker beats him to the outside. He reminds me of Darren Sproles except Darren Sproles ran a 4.3. Clyde looks like he's running up the stairs in a Freddy Krueger nightmare.

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Charles lost us one like this..I can forgive that because he was dynamic and made plays..when you're CEH you don't get leeway cause you don't make plays.

smithandrew051 09-19-2021 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15844577)
I hate to say it but Ubeja was right all along. I'm not just saying that because of the fumble. Several times so far this season he's looked slow. What looks like an 8-10 yard gain ends up a 4 yard gain because the linebacker beats him to the outside. He reminds me of Darren Sproles except Darren Sproles ran a 4.3. Clyde looks like he's running up the stairs in a Freddy Krueger nightmare.

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I called him “Caught from bEHind” in the GDT. It’s fitting.

New World Order 09-19-2021 10:36 PM

Mckinnon has some burst and he’s a good receiver. He should be our 1

ArrowHeader 09-19-2021 10:37 PM

****ing bum. Trade him

smithandrew051 09-19-2021 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844587)
Charles lost us one like this..I can forgive that because he was dynamic and made plays..when you're CEH you don't get leeway cause you don't make plays.

Yup the Denver game in 2015. Started our losing streak that year before we won like 10 in a row.

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:38 PM

It's pretty bad when my son who just finished 4 years of HS football is telling me his coach would beat his ass for running up guys asses and not seeing holes.

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowHeader (Post 15844591)
****ing bum. Trade him

For what a ham sandwich?

Buehler445 09-19-2021 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15844444)

Yeah, thankfully I kept the homer on the DL. Most of my posts were a response to the Kareem Hunt pining that was going on. I had fought the fight in a thread earlier.

But yeah, I certainly didn't expect this.

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:44 PM

I like how Mahomes told him not to let 1 play define him..

I would have said **** you bitch you walking home now... slap!

BigRedChief 09-19-2021 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15844428)
I watched him at LSU bounce off tacklers, made nice cuts, caught the ball in space and made nice plays. Figured he would be great in an Andy Reid offense.

Nope.

That was college, The size and speed are way different. How many times this season has he run into the back of a pile of lineman instead of bouncing to the side with lots of running room?

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Originally Posted by Munson (Post 15844434)
He's playing like a washed up RB.

Hell, even Leveon Bell looked better than this last year, or McCoy from the year before.

I dont want to waste more BS runs on first down to get his confidence up.

smithandrew051 09-19-2021 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844621)
I like how Mahomes told him not to let 1 play define him..

I would have said **** you bitch you walking home now... slap!

Don’t worry Pat, we don’t need just 1 play to define CEH. We have plenty.

Tribal Warfare 09-19-2021 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844621)
I like how Mahomes told him not to let 1 play define him..

I would have said **** you bitch you walking home now... slap!


That worked out well for the Chiefs 2021 SB OL

New World Order 09-19-2021 10:47 PM

Clyde letting the 3.2ypc define him

TEX 09-19-2021 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15844590)
Mckinnon has some burst and he’s a good receiver. He should be our 1

Made of glass...He did look better than CEH tonight. Though that's not very hard to do.

Mecca 09-19-2021 11:06 PM

What teams would trade their RB situation vfor ours? There aren't many...


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