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Gary Cooper 12-02-2023 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254181)
They should put both SEC teams in if Bama wins. I want the chaos/whining from all the other conferences.

Why should Georgia still be in the playoff? They'll have the same amount of losses as Texas without a conference title.

If Florida State wins, they'll also have a conference title.

There's no point having these title games if there's no consequences to losing.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 04:58 PM

This QB for Alabama has had an amazing improvement from where he was at the start of the season.

CaliforniaChief 12-02-2023 05:00 PM

It's going to be awesome with 12 teams next year. The 13th team out can bitch all they want.

That said, if this result stays as is, I'd go:
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Alabama

If Georgia wins:
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Washington
4. Texas

No matter what Florida State does, I'd leave them out. I don't think they're one of the four best teams in the country.

Gary Cooper 12-02-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 17254191)
It's going to be awesome with 12 teams next year. The 13th team out can bitch all they want.

That said, if this result stays as is, I'd go:
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Alabama

If Georgia wins:
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Washington
4. Texas

No matter what Florida State does, I'd leave them out. I don't think they're one of the four best teams in the country.

It won't be awesome. There will be too many blowouts. College doesn't have the NFL's parity. Remember last year's title game? Four teams is about right.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17254188)
Why should Georgia still be in the playoff? They'll have the same amount of losses as Texas without a conference title.

If Florida State wins, they'll also have a conference title.

There's no point having these title games if there's no consequences to losing.

You could easily argue why should Georgia drop 4 spots for losing to an Alabama team that will presumably be ranked in the top 4. FSU has played nobody on this level all season and they should get rewarded for that?

Gary Cooper 12-02-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254194)
You could easily argue why should Georgia drop 4 spots for losing to an Alabama team that will presumably be ranked in the top 4. FSU has played nobody on this level all season and they should get rewarded for that?

I don't think FSU could beat Georgia. However, I see this no differently than a weak division winner getting an automatic playoff spot in the NFL or MLB. Those are the rules.

If Georgia doesn't need to win this game, that cheapens it. It's supposed to be a conference title game. Not an exhibition for one of the teams.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17254197)
I don't think FSU could beat Georgia. However, I see this no differently than a weak division winner getting an automatic playoff spot in the NFL or MLB. Those are the rules.

Except there are people voting on/selecting these spots so it's not like that at all?

Gary Cooper 12-02-2023 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254198)
Except there are people voting on/selecting these spots so it's not like that at all?

I understand. Just saying how I would vote.

Otherwise, you could pencil Georgia into the playoff before the season began. They're likely one of the nation's top 4 teams. Same with Michigan.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 05:13 PM

I'll put it this way, if the point of the selection committee is to select the four best teams in the country, how is Georgia not among them regardless of the outcome here?

Is that not the point of the committee?

CaliforniaChief 12-02-2023 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17254193)
It won't be awesome. There will be too many blowouts. College doesn't have the NFL's parity. Remember last year's title game? Four teams is about right.

I disagree. It adds more meaning to games than just bowl appearances where all the top players sit out to protect their draft status.

Gary Cooper 12-02-2023 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 17254203)
I disagree. It adds more meaning to games than just bowl appearances where all the top players sit out to protect their draft status.

Fair enough, but I don't watch the Bowl games besides the playoff. Maybe the Rose Bowl, but that's about it.

Gary Cooper 12-02-2023 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254200)
I'll put it this way, if the point of the selection committee is to select the four best teams in the country, how is Georgia not among them regardless of the outcome here?

Is that not the point of the committee?

You could argue they're not if they lose this game. Hard argument considering how dominant they've been the last few seasons, but that's supposed to be irrelevant. We're evaluating this year only.

kstater 12-02-2023 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17254206)
You could argue they're not if they lose this game. Hard argument considering how dominant they've been the last few seasons, but that's supposed to be irrelevant. We're evaluating this year only.

He thinks the top 4 teams are in the SEC based on recruiting rankings. Games don't matter. Doesn't matter that the SEC was the worst conference vs other non conference power 5 games this year.

* Edit, big 10 was one game worse.

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Pinchshot 12-02-2023 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17254188)
Why should Georgia still be in the playoff? They'll have the same amount of losses as Texas without a conference title.

If Florida State wins, they'll also have a conference title.

There's no point having these title games if there's no consequences to losing.

Why do they play these games? They're antiquated since the playoffs started.

Gary Cooper 12-02-2023 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinchshot (Post 17254209)
Why do they play these games? They're antiquated since the playoffs started.

Because of money.

mlyonsd 12-02-2023 05:31 PM

Oops.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17254208)
He thinks the top 4 teams are in the SEC based on recruiting rankings. Games don't matter. Doesn't matter that the SEC was the worst conference vs other non conference power 5 games this year.

* Edit, big 10 was one game worse.

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I don't think anything. I just want chaos and I think there's a decent argument for both to be in as the top 4 teams if Bama wins.

CaliforniaChief 12-02-2023 05:32 PM

How you lose definitely matters, too. This could still change, but if Georgia loses and continues to play like this, I don't think there's any way they're in and Texas isn't.

Pinchshot 12-02-2023 05:33 PM

Little too slick on the handoff. Bama about to win it here.

tredadda 12-02-2023 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 17254191)
It's going to be awesome with 12 teams next year. The 13th team out can bitch all they want.

That said, if this result stays as is, I'd go:
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Alabama

If Georgia wins:
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Washington
4. Texas

No matter what Florida State does, I'd leave them out. I don't think they're one of the four best teams in the country.

If Alabama, FSU, and Michigan win there will be chaos. No way an undefeated FSU is left out regardless of whether they are one of the four best or not. The fourth spot is gonna be interesting with UGA, Texas, Alabama, and tOSU all having legit arguments for that final spot. This is why there has been so much noise from the SEC and teams about it being ridiculous to not have a SEC team in the playoffs.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-02-2023 05:46 PM

Carson Beck is pretty goddamned shitty.

Titty Meat 12-02-2023 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17254188)
Why should Georgia still be in the playoff? They'll have the same amount of losses as Texas without a conference title.

If Florida State wins, they'll also have a conference title.

There's no point having these title games if there's no consequences to losing.

A loss to Alabama in the SEC title game is better than losing to OU

Pinchshot 12-02-2023 05:49 PM

Um did I just see a tranny cheerleader for Alabama?

CaliforniaChief 12-02-2023 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17254229)
If Alabama, FSU, and Michigan win there will be chaos. No way an undefeated FSU is left out regardless of whether they are one of the four best or not. The fourth spot is gonna be interesting with UGA, Texas, Alabama, and tOSU all having legit arguments for that final spot. This is why there has been so much noise from the SEC and teams about it being ridiculous to not have a SEC team in the playoffs.

I would be a lot more surprised if an SEC champion was left out of the CFP than if an undefeated Florida State was.

PHOG 12-02-2023 05:53 PM

This game just tightened up.

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FD (Post 17254163)
And yet theres a decent shot the Big 12 champ will have beaten the SEC champ in their own house this year.

Oh look, it’s Great Value Skip Bayless being edgy again.

tredadda 12-02-2023 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 17254246)
I would be a lot more surprised if an SEC champion was left out of the CFP than if an undefeated Florida State was.

Let’s say Alabama wins as does FSU, do you put Alabama over FSU?

PHOG 12-02-2023 06:05 PM

That should just about do it for Alabama

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:06 PM

Getting real close to total chaos.

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 06:08 PM

Real close.

kstater 12-02-2023 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17254229)
If Alabama, FSU, and Michigan win there will be chaos. No way an undefeated FSU is left out regardless of whether they are one of the four best or not. The fourth spot is gonna be interesting with UGA, Texas, Alabama, and tOSU all having legit arguments for that final spot. This is why there has been so much noise from the SEC and teams about it being ridiculous to not have a SEC team in the playoffs.

You can't justify Georgia over Alabama. You can't justify Alabama over Texas. You can't justify OSU over all of them as they didn't even play this weekend. The only way an SEC team gets in is if they manage to convince themselves that an undefeated FSU gets left out.

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tredadda 12-02-2023 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 17254237)
Carson Beck is pretty goddamned shitty.

It’s a testament to the talent and coaching on UGA that they are undefeated and in the SECCG as he really is not that good.

FD 12-02-2023 06:11 PM

CFB committee is going to be praying for a Louisville win tonight.

tredadda 12-02-2023 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17254266)
You can't justify Georgia over Alabama. You can't justify Alabama over Texas. You can't justify OSU over all of them as they didn't even play this weekend. The only way an SEC team gets in is if they manage to convince themselves that an undefeated FSU gets left out.

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Exactly why I think chaos ensues if Alabama wins.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:12 PM

Bowers really needs to be a Chief.

tredadda 12-02-2023 06:12 PM

Taking way too long to get 3-4 yards.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:13 PM

Georgia calling timeout down two scores LMAO

tredadda 12-02-2023 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17254271)
Bowers really needs to be a Chief.

Oh my if he was a Chief.

KCUnited 12-02-2023 06:14 PM

Running the longest plays if you don’t make it to get guys unpiled and lined back up

BWillie 12-02-2023 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FD (Post 17254163)
And yet theres a decent shot the Big 12 champ will have beaten the SEC champ in their own house this year.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...meId/401442010

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:15 PM

Took a long time and a time out to get that.

kepp2 12-02-2023 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17254271)
Bowers really needs to be a Chief.

Yes, please

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KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17254266)
You can't justify Georgia over Alabama. You can't justify Alabama over Texas. You can't justify OSU over all of them as they didn't even play this weekend. The only way an SEC team gets in is if they manage to convince themselves that an undefeated FSU gets left out.

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Sure you can. Texas shouldn't lose to a joke team like OU if they want to get in the playoff.

tredadda 12-02-2023 06:16 PM

That false start which cost UGA a FG in the first half looming very large now.

FD 12-02-2023 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17254278)


I guess this would mean something if TCU had beaten Georgia earlier that season? Otherwise I don't see the relevance to a Texas v Alabama debate.

kstater 12-02-2023 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254282)
Sure you can. Texas shouldn't lose to a joke team like OU if they want to get in the playoff.

And Alabama lost by two scores at home to that Texas team.

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tredadda 12-02-2023 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17254288)
And Alabama lost by two scores at home to that Texas team.

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Definitely not a Texas fan but putting Alabama in over Texas would be wrong.

dlphg9 12-02-2023 06:20 PM

Good God Georgia lmao.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:20 PM

Georgia wishes they had that third time out now.

Gary Cooper 12-02-2023 06:20 PM

College rules are so weird. If you're trailing and get a first down late in the game, the clock stops. If you're ahead, it doesn't.

Like what the hell?

ROYC75 12-02-2023 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17254271)
Bowers really needs to be a Chief.

I would like this a lot!

tredadda 12-02-2023 06:21 PM

That’s game.

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 06:21 PM

Oh Bama… this will be chaos.

kstater 12-02-2023 06:22 PM

Game

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displacedinMN 12-02-2023 06:22 PM

the playoff is now in turmoil

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:22 PM

He fumbled.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17254294)
Georgia wishes they had that third time out now.

Probably shouldn't be using one of your timeouts on offense down two scores with less than 3 minutes to go, no.

kstater 12-02-2023 06:22 PM

Why in the world would you run anything there?

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KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:22 PM

Why is Alabama even running plays right now? Saban is dumb as hell too.

tredadda 12-02-2023 06:23 PM

All eyes on Louisville and Iowa.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:24 PM

Gary D such an SEC homer.

tk13 12-02-2023 06:24 PM

Let the playoff selection drama begin. Texas is probably the weakest team but they won by 10 on the road at Alabama. If you don't put them in over Alabama there's no point in playing the games. Just don't play any of the games and put the most talented teams in and be done with it.

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 06:24 PM

Gotta hand it to Saban. He took that QB and made a helluva run at the CFP.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17254303)
Why in the world would you run anything there?

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Mario Cristobal would.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:25 PM

Now for Michigan and FSU to beat the patsies they're playing and we've got some epic chaos.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:27 PM

Texas convincingly beat Alabama at Alabama… doesn’t matter when it was… that has to be the deciding factor.

Bwana 12-02-2023 06:27 PM

ROLL TIDE!!! **** yes!!

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:29 PM

CBS gives this up for Iowa/Wisconsin games next season.

ROYC75 12-02-2023 06:29 PM

For shits and giggles, go Iowa and Louisville.

Sassy Squatch 12-02-2023 06:30 PM

Washington and Texas should be locks now.

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 06:30 PM

There are going to be a LOT of ER visits for wives in rural Georgia tonight.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:32 PM

Alabama has the best win of anyone in the country now and they are SEC champions. I wouldn't be betting on Texas making it over them myself.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17254320)
For shits and giggles, go Iowa and Louisville.

Nah, that would take the fun out of it entirely.

displacedinMN 12-02-2023 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17254319)
CBS gives this up for Iowa/Wisconsin games next season.

ESPN has always been the SEC slobberknocker

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17254320)
For shits and giggles, go Iowa and Louisville.

No one wants to see FSU in the CFP with their second or third string QB.

Go Louisville.

tk13 12-02-2023 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254324)
Alabama has the best win of anyone in the country now and they are SEC champions. I wouldn't be betting on Texas making it over them myself.

I think it's possible but if you do that there's no point in playing the actual games. It's all just math at that point. Alabama had their chance to ensure a bid and they lost by double digits.

smithandrew051 12-02-2023 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254324)
Alabama has the best win of anyone in the country now and they are SEC champions. I wouldn't be betting on Texas making it over them myself.

Also, Bama’s loss is better than Texas’s loss.

The interesting part is that Texas is Bama’s loss.

Bama has the best win of the two and the better loss.

I think the Committee picks Bama.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17254328)
I think it's possible but if you do that there's no point in playing the actual games. It's all just math at that point. Alabama had their chance to ensure a bid and they lost by double digits.

You could say the same thing about Texas losing to OU.

There's no "right" answer here. It's just who the committee thinks are the four best teams (and my guess is they go with Bama based on their track record with the SEC).

ROYC75 12-02-2023 06:37 PM

You have to talk about the elephant in the room bots. Alabama has made a name for itself with this game!

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17254331)
Also, Bama’s loss is better than Texas’s loss.

The interesting part is that Texas is Bama’s loss.

Bama has the best win of the two and the better loss.

I think the Committee picks Bama.

If Alabama’s loss is better, doesn’t that validate Texas’ case even more since that “quality loss” was to Texas?


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