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Pitt Gorilla 06-08-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16973605)
Probably shouldn't be leaving him out in a blowout to get a triple double, but the only way Denver loses this series is if Murray repeats his game 2 performance for the rest of it. Not gonna happen.

There was some idiot on here suggesting that Murray's quality play wasn't sustainable, so I suppose there is hope for Miami.

KC_Connection 06-08-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16974044)
There was some idiot on here suggesting that Murray's quality play wasn't sustainable, so I suppose there is hope for Miami.

Playing like last night isn't sustainable for anybody (even playoff Murray, who has played at a much higher level than he did in the regular season, has thrown in some off games like game 2). But avoiding playing like he did in game 2 for the rest of the series? Yeah I think he'll manage.

tredadda 06-08-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 16973945)
Zion Williamson in a pickle.

https://basketnews.com/news-190455-p...-my-mouth.html



Spoiler!

So a former porn star is upset that he is sleeping with other women?

KC_Connection 06-08-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16974039)
I don't understand the sorcery he pulls to have all those off balance yeets end up as baskets.

He's one of the best pure scorers around the basket ever. Also one of the best passers ever.

A deadly combination.

staylor26 06-08-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16974054)
Playing like last night isn't sustainable for anybody (even playoff Murray, who has played at a much higher level than he did in the regular season, has thrown in some off games like game 2). But avoiding playing like he did in game 2 for the rest of the series? Yeah I think he'll manage.

Exactly.

They won't lose another game if he just plays like he did in game 1.

Skyy God 06-08-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 16973945)
Zion Williamson in a pickle.

https://basketnews.com/news-190455-p...-my-mouth.html



Spoiler!

Lol, getting put on blast for dogging your rehab by an OF model/pornstar is pretty hilarious.

KC_Connection 06-08-2023 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16974061)
Exactly.

They won't lose another game if he just plays like he did in game 1.

Agreed. Jokic is gonna give you his consistent 30-15-10 (and probably more) on ridiculous efficiency. They just need Murray to show up and he will more than not.

https://www.basketball-reference.com..._yearly_p.html

Jokic's BPM this postseason (13.39) has only ever been surpassed by the following players in NBA history for a single postseason: 1988 Hakeem (14.53), 1990 MJ (13.67), 1991 MJ (14.63), 2009 LeBron (17.53), 2017 Kawhi (14.25). Only 1991 MJ actually won a title in those years (although the fact that 1988 Hakeem, 1990 MJ, 2009 LeBron and 2017 Kawhi did not had little to do with them). This is one of the greatest individual playoff runs ever.

KC_Connection 06-08-2023 11:08 AM

The fact that Jokic pretty much toyed with AD (who is one of the best defenders of the past few decades) in that Lakers series said it all about where his game is at right now.

DaFace 06-08-2023 12:51 PM

Full disclosure: I've never been a basketball fan and probably never will be. I casually keep track of March Madness brackets, and I have even tuned into the finals game from time to time when KU has been in it, but that's about it. I've never followed the NBA, and the one Nuggets game I went to was a free ticket with a group from my wife's work.

So with that said, is anyone willing to humor me and give me a feel for WHY Jokic is such an outlier? Obviously he's a monstrosity of a human being, but if that was all there was to it, you'd think that there would be a long history of 300 pound dudes dominating in basketball. Shaq comes to mind, but it doesn't seem like that's the norm for most superstars.

What is it that Jokic does that is so unusual? Is it just the insane ability to hit shots that don't look like he should have even tried? He pushes his weight around in a particularly effective way? His ability (and willingness) to distribute the ball?

Just trying to get some broader context around it so I can not look like such a n00b in water cooler conversations. As you can imagine, the city is pretty amped up about the Nuggets this week. :)

DJ's left nut 06-08-2023 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16974057)
So a former porn star is upset that he is sleeping with other women?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/96113d41...871b580400.gif

DJ's left nut 06-08-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16974186)
Full disclosure: I've never been a basketball fan and probably never will be. I casually keep track of March Madness brackets, and I have even tuned into the finals game from time to time when KU has been in it, but that's about it. I've never followed the NBA, and the one Nuggets game I went to was a free ticket with a group from my wife's work.

So with that said, is anyone willing to humor me and give me a feel for WHY Jokic is such an outlier? Obviously he's a monstrosity of a human being, but if that was all there was to it, you'd think that there would be a long history of 300 pound dudes dominating in basketball. Shaq comes to mind, but it doesn't seem like that's the norm for most superstars.

What is it that Jokic does that is so unusual? Is it just the insane ability to hit shots that don't look like he should have even tried? He pushes his weight around in a particularly effective way? His ability (and willingness) to distribute the ball?

Just trying to get some broader context around it so I can not look like such a n00b in water cooler conversations. As you can imagine, the city is pretty amped up about the Nuggets this week. :)

He's a basketball version of Travis Kelce.

Nobody can figure out how Kelce's always that open, but he just moves in unique ways that defenders aren't prepared for. Moreover, Kelce sees the field and defenders in ways that nobody else does - he simply knows how to create opportunities. And with that savvy and those unique movements, he puts himself in positions to make plays that he simply ALWAYS makes.

Jokic is the same way. He has a combination of unique agility for a man his size and insane field/court awareness that create looks for himself that nobody else gets. And then, like Kelce, he simply cashes them in at an incredibly high rate because he's swiss-watch consistent.

Think of Jokic as a basketball Kelce and things will make a LOT of sense.

Pitt Gorilla 06-08-2023 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16974343)
He's a basketball version of Travis Kelce.

Nobody can figure out how Kelce's always that open, but he just moves in unique ways that defenders aren't prepared for. Moreover, Kelce sees the field and defenders in ways that nobody else does - he simply knows how to create opportunities. And with that savvy and those unique movements, he puts himself in positions to make plays that he simply ALWAYS makes.

Jokic is the same way. He has a combination of unique agility for a man his size and insane field/court awareness that create looks for himself that nobody else gets. And then, like Kelce, he simply cashes them in at an incredibly high rate because he's swiss-watch consistent.

Think of Jokic as a basketball Kelce and things will make a LOT of sense.

He's almost a pass-first Bird, but even that doesn't seem right.

KC_Connection 06-08-2023 02:09 PM

He's obviously a very good athlete (even though he doesn't look it) with phenomenal hand-eye coordination and great control/knowledge over how to use his body, but I think the best way to put it is that he is just a basketball genius. He has one of the highest basketball IQs of any player in the history of the sport. He reads plays/situations/opportunities before they even happen and he's always a step ahead of everyone else on the court.

Megatron96 06-08-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16974186)
Full disclosure: I've never been a basketball fan and probably never will be. I casually keep track of March Madness brackets, and I have even tuned into the finals game from time to time when KU has been in it, but that's about it. I've never followed the NBA, and the one Nuggets game I went to was a free ticket with a group from my wife's work.

So with that said, is anyone willing to humor me and give me a feel for WHY Jokic is such an outlier? Obviously he's a monstrosity of a human being, but if that was all there was to it, you'd think that there would be a long history of 300 pound dudes dominating in basketball. Shaq comes to mind, but it doesn't seem like that's the norm for most superstars.

What is it that Jokic does that is so unusual? Is it just the insane ability to hit shots that don't look like he should have even tried? He pushes his weight around in a particularly effective way? His ability (and willingness) to distribute the ball?

Just trying to get some broader context around it so I can not look like such a n00b in water cooler conversations. As you can imagine, the city is pretty amped up about the Nuggets this week. :)


DJ and KCC get into the details of it.


Another part of it is just that he’s an old school player in terms of his size. NBA teams have shrunk, so he’s literally the big fish in a world of small ones. He goes where he wants to go on the court at will, and no one can even slow him down.

DJ's left nut 06-08-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16974366)
He's almost a pass-first Bird, but even that doesn't seem right.

He's the evolutionary version of Arvydas Sabonis. 'Rich Mans' Sabonis doesn't quite do him justice unless you mean Elon Musk rich.


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