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DaneMcCloud 04-25-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6713938)
If it was any team but Baltimore that took Kindle and Cody, I wouldn't be as pissed for passing on those guys. Newsome taking them means they are pretty darn good players.

Baltimore has the luxury of being able to take two questionable players due to their depth and success. Most teams can't take that risk defensively.

chiefzilla1501 04-25-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6713918)
I'm hoping they saw something in Daryl Harris when they started working him out at center that tells them he might have some potential to be the long term answer there with some work, and that's the reason they didn't address it.

I just can't fathom not addressing it with an aging Weigman and Niswanger as your only options.

I thought I read that they're wondering if Asamoah is an option at Center.

If that's the case, maybe the plan is to have Lilja at LG and Harris or Brown at RG (future state).

ChiefsCountry 04-25-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6713942)
Baltimore has the luxury of being able to take two questionable players due to their depth and success. Most teams can't take that risk defensively.

Baltimore drafts like that every year though. Its why they have the most talented roster in the NFL, they just never had a franchise QB.

BradyFTW! 04-25-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6712269)
Ooops my bad :)

In all seriousness I do like Studebaker and I was kind of hoping Sheffield might be a starter then I realized he is going to be playing behind Hali.

I know Studebaker, not really friends with him, but we have have mutual friends. FWIW, he's a really good guy and a hard worker, not that that's any surprise to you I'm sure.

milkman 04-25-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6713952)
I thought I read that they're wondering if Asamoah is an option at Center.

If that's the case, maybe the plan is to have Lilja at LG and Harris or Brown at RG (future state).

Regardless, if they don't have a backup plan already in place not addressing the center position is simply unfathomable.

OnTheWarpath15 04-25-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6713902)
The difference is that Pioli isn't going to be happy until he's got HIS 53 guys in place.

It's a huge gamble, IMO, but it's one that Clark Hunt is obviously willing to take.

I'll take that response as you saying that Detroit does have more talent than us, mainly because they don't value leadership over talent.

At this point, they really are only missing a lockdown corner and a true LTOTF. Though it is entirely possible that Fox could become that guy.


My guess is that they'll win 5-6 games this year in a brutal division, and we'll win the same amount in a terrible division and playing a weak schedule.

OnTheWarpath15 04-25-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6713955)
Baltimore drafts like that every year though. Its why they have the most talented roster in the NFL, they just never had a franchise QB.

It's amazing that the same 6-8 teams, who are drafting in the 20's and 30's almost every year are the best drafting teams.

ChiefsCountry 04-25-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6713985)
It's amazing that the same 6-8 teams, who are drafting in the 20's and 30's almost every year are the best drafting teams.

Basically Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Indy draft really well each year.

tk13 04-25-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6714008)
Basically Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Indy draft really well each year.

It's true, which is interesting because I think they all have different draft philosophies. I think a lot of people like the Ravens because they seem to play the most of the traditional "board" that most NFL fans have. I think they really view things the way most of the hardcore draft fans here do.

Not that the Steelers don't, but I think they'll veer a little more off course, but seem to always take guys who were very productive. I feel like they'll take a very productive college player over someone who's a little more "hype" or who may have a question mark.

And the Colts just give everyone a big middle finger and pretty much do whatever they want. They don't play by anyone's board or analysis. But at this point they've done so well it's just gotten to the point nobody questions them anymore. Kind of a rare situation.

The Bad Guy 04-25-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6713983)
I'll take that response as you saying that Detroit does have more talent than us, mainly because they don't value leadership over talent.

At this point, they really are only missing a lockdown corner and a true LTOTF. Though it is entirely possible that Fox could become that guy.


My guess is that they'll win 5-6 games this year in a brutal division, and we'll win the same amount in a terrible division and playing a weak schedule.

The Lions are only a corner and LT away? Really? The Lions right side of the line is terrible. Cherilus is awful. They have Julian Peterson at linebacker and that's it. They have Gunther calling their defense.

I just don't get all this Lions love. They have Calvin, Delmas, Suh and Stafford. I'm no Javid Best fan due to his concussion issues and size.

Mecca 04-25-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6713985)
It's amazing that the same 6-8 teams, who are drafting in the 20's and 30's almost every year are the best drafting teams.

Baltimore drafts well because they take the obvious pick, big name guy falls, he pretty much always ends up a Raven. Their team comes up you go, hrm who's the best player left here? Baltimore takes him...

There's something to be said for being smart enough to just take the obvious pick instead of drafting bumble**** mcleadership from slapdick U because you must show how brilliant you are or value things that aren't talent.

ILChief 04-25-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6714061)
Baltimore drafts well because they take the obvious pick, big name guy falls, he pretty much always ends up a Raven. Their team comes up you go, hrm who's the best player left here? Baltimore takes him...

There's something to be said for being smart enough to just take the obvious pick instead of drafting bumble**** mcleadership from slapdick U because you must show how brilliant you are or value things that aren't talent.

So if Washington had taken Berry, we should have taken Okung correct? He would have been arguably the best guy on the board

Mecca 04-25-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 6714083)
So if Washington had taken Berry, we should have taken Okung correct? He would have been arguably the best guy on the board

That's an arguable point, what I'm saying is you never see Baltimore make picks like Tyson Alualu or see them take some guy in the 3rd round that everyone goes "uh who?"

Brock 04-25-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6714089)
That's an arguable point, what I'm saying is you never see Baltimore make picks like Tyson Alualu or see them take some guy in the 3rd round that everyone goes "uh who?"

Yeah, they don't ever do anything like draft tight ends in consecutive rounds.

Mecca 04-25-2010 07:32 PM

Considering Todd Heap is made of glass and they don't have any real considerable needs...


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