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TEX 03-14-2013 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 9498500)
I still like to see the Chiefs get another starter at CB. I don't think Sean Smith or Dunta Robinson are the answer. Not intrigued by any of those guys.
But BOTH (even Robinson) are much better than what we had...

philfree 03-14-2013 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9498409)
That's fine. I get Alex Smith for this year, but if we are honest we know that likely the Chiefs won't have a chance to draft a QB that will be rated as high as Geno unless we give up the farm in a trade, right?

I would think most people now know Geno is going top 5 and most likely we'll be in the 15-20 range for the next few years. I know Phil pointed out the other later 1st round picks have had success, but this is a different time with the new CBA and emphasis on passing/scoring so the guys that used to be there won't be.

People can talk about whoever they want in the next draft, but odds are we won't be in a position to take a guy that is as good of a prospect as Geno and that is where the frustation comes in.
Frustrating no doubt.

O.city 03-14-2013 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498207)
Smart teams have young, ascending players on their roster backing up older players.

Having a Dion Jordan (despite his brilliance outside of football) would be nice not only as a rotational player, but as insurance if either Hali or Houston were injured.

If either were to be injured, it would seriously affect QB pressure and pass rush.
I'm not a huge fan of taking a rotational guy that early. Hell, at this point, I'd rather them just take a RT and be done with it.

bricks 03-14-2013 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9498510)
You're paying your nickle a LOT of $$$...
That's a problem. Way to much money for the nickel. Would make a great nickel though.

Just not so sure as the #2 CB?

But at the end of the day, the way I look I at it, it's about improving your secondary in every imaginable way possible. To me that means having good starters, depth, and great coaching.

*Milliner would give the Chiefs a really good starter next to Flowers. This is the only issue the chiefs have back there imo. The #2 CB spot is still questionable in my mind. If they could get Milliner, that second starting spot would be locked down. Just by addressing that #2 CB, this secondary would be solidfied.

O.city 03-14-2013 03:26 PM
Sean Smith is the 2, we just paid him accordingly.

Mav 03-14-2013 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498227)
Know why he doesn't turn the ball over? Because he takes ****ing sacks.

Game Manager. 8-8.
Turns the ball over 2-14

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498512)
I'm saying when he's surrounded by above average talent, he can be just as successful as those guys. I'm not stating he'll be equal statistically but that he can provide similar results in terms of wins and losses.

In five years, Matt Ryan has exactly one playoff win, same for Schaub.
But Alex Smith wasn't the one "providing" wins in San Francisco.

He road the coattails of the #2 defense.

Everyone knows that. Everyone also knows that despite what you claim is a lack of offensive talent, a better QB produced more with the same players.

And it's not just Kaepernick. Even in 2008, the 49ers were a better offense without Alex Smith. Shaun Hill outplayed him, fer crissakes.

Sorry, but Alex Smith simply cannot make the throws Matt Ryan, Matt Schaub and Trent Green can/could. He'll never be as successful as those guys, unless he again rides the coattails of a top running game and defense.

It's lunacy to think he's going to be anywhere close to those guys.

bricks 03-14-2013 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9498523)
But BOTH (even Robinson) are much better than what we had...
Yeah, but they're marginal improvements.

I don't know about you, but my standards are higher then marginal. I'd like to see them improve the #2 CB signficantly.

O.city 03-14-2013 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 9498547)
Yeah, but they're marginal improvements.

I don't know about you, but my standards are higher then marginal. I'd like to see them improve the #2 CB signficantly.
Marginal? :spock:

Mav 03-14-2013 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9498256)
8-8 doesn't get you any closer to the Super Bowl than 2-14, 4-12,7-9,4-12 if your not going to draft and develop a QB to take the leap into the post season and beyond.
you dont mind if Dorsey and reid get to have ONE draft before stating things like that?

Mr. Laz 03-14-2013 03:29 PM
Starter: Flowers, Robinson, Berry, Smith

nickle: Arenas

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 03:30 PM
Holy shit.

The 2008 49ers averaged 20.1 PPG with Shaun Hill.

With Alex Smith in 2007: 11.7 PPG.

With Alex Smith in 2009: 19.8 PPG.

With Alex Smith in 2010: 19.5 PPG

Easy 6 03-14-2013 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498542)
Sean Smith is the 2, we just paid him accordingly.
Yep, its hard to see them using a high pick on milliner after that move.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498546)

It's lunacy to think he's going to be anywhere close to those guys.
You have your opinion, I have mine.

If Alex Smith stinks it up this year, it won't matter who's right or wrong because he'll be gone by the end of 2014.

Mav 03-14-2013 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498312)
Tyson Jackson-Dontari Poe-Mike Devito

that's a combined FOUR sacks total between them last season

disgusting
What did the 49ers have from there down 3 last year?

from their three starters, they had 6 total.

YOur down three arent meant to be sack guys.


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