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Mav 07-20-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9823838)
I hope he does.

But if thats the case, why didn't he do it for Michael Vick? Or Foles?

I'm not a huge fan of going out and giving up what we gave up for a QB who we have to "tweek" the system we want to run in order for him to run it.

I think physically, Smith can run the same system Reid's always ran, he just has to have the confidence to do it.

Well, with Vick it is easy. he has a cannon, and they had Djax, and maclin to go deep. With Foles at that point, he knew he was done in PHILLY in my opinion, so he just kinda figured eff it. Shrugs. I took the way he handled foles as a big eff you to the philly brass. Because he tried really hard to stand by Vick, and they wanted Foles.

keg in kc 07-20-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9823821)
Listening to Alex Smith's interview, I think Reid is just going to "tweek" his offense to the strengths of his players. That would include the QB position, and putting in a passing offense that fits the strengths of what Smith can do, instead of trying to force Smith into making plays that don't fit within his skill set just because those plays maybe worked for McNabb or Favre.

I'll bet we still throw it though. Probably a lot.

That mirrors my own expectations.

However, as for your expectations re: the pistol, I think the pistol's a gimmick that's going to have a very short shelf life in the NFL. It's the new Wildcat.

GordonGekko 07-20-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9823780)

4. Had we passed on a Luck or RGIII then your argument would have more merit. We did not. Geno is nowhere even close to their level.

Lol I could give a **** about Geno. What I'm talking about is bigger than one player, or one draft. I'm talking about an overall philosophy that is on the scale of years and decades. This conservative, me too bullshit the Chiefs have been doing is not getting them anywhere. They need to learn to innovate, and take risks when they are acceptable. The problem however, I believe is systematic, and is traceable up to and including ownership and the fans. Until the days of going 9-7 and then taking a huge money shot in the face that a blue balled team has been storing up for weeks in a playoff game and ending the Chiefs' season are unacceptable, UNACCEPTABLE, then this 40+ year drought will continue.

Hammock Parties 07-20-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9823837)
I have told him on multiple accounts, that he doesn't have to leave, I will if I lose. But he can stay. And if he stays, I will shove that shit down his throat every single day of the year. A

I will also offer you a plea bargain.

But you won't like it.

We're going to find out just how much you like posting lies about Alex Smith here....what are you willing to do to retain the privilege? How far will you go?

My guess is you will just run and hide in shame.

Mav 07-20-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9823849)
You yourself said you hope Kaepernick fails, thus hoping the 9ers lose.

No, I don't hope the 49ers lose. They can win with Colt McCoy for all I give a shit. I just don't like Kaepernick. Ill still begrudgingly be rooting for them. You wont see me with a Kaepernick jersey on though.

O.city 07-20-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9823845)
He is 'tweeking' it to his players strengths. Isn't that would a good coach should do?

Yes, and like I said, I hope he does.

But if he will do it now, why didn't he do it before?

I don't think coaches change their stripes. I think they are who they are. Now, I don't think he's going to ask Smith to chuck it downfield a ton, but he needs to run the same offense that was successful early in his career in Philly.

Coogs 07-20-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9823842)
my bad lol.

:thumb:

O.city 07-20-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9823851)
Well, with Vick it is easy. he has a cannon, and they had Djax, and maclin to go deep. With Foles at that point, he knew he was done in PHILLY in my opinion, so he just kinda figured eff it. Shrugs. I took the way he handled foles as a big eff you to the philly brass. Because he tried really hard to stand by Vick, and they wanted Foles.

Vick isn't a QB who can really make more than one read and actually read a defense.

He would have been well suited to run the pistol actually.

O.city 07-20-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9823856)
No, I don't hope the 49ers lose. They can win with Colt McCoy for all I give a shit. I just don't like Kaepernick. Ill still begrudgingly be rooting for them. You wont see me with a Kaepernick jersey on though.

Sorry, I just don't see much difference in you and GoCHiefs then.

You hope your QB will fail because you don't like him, he hopes his QB will fail because he doesnt' like him.

Mav 07-20-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9823854)
I will also offer you a plea bargain.

But you won't like it.

We're going to find out just how much you like posting lies about Alex Smith here....what are you willing to do to retain the privilege? How far will you go?

My guess is you will just run and hide in shame.

Nope. No plea bargains for me, no mults. One, because first and foremost, im a man of my word. And second, I wont need any. You can have your get out of jail free card. I don't really care.....I just understand what is happening here. I also know the kind of fighter alex smith is.

Mav 07-20-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9823870)
Sorry, I just don't see much difference in you and GoCHiefs then.

You hope your QB will fail because you don't like him, he hopes his QB will fail because he doesnt' like him.

I can understand that. Loyalty just runs deep for me. Come week one, ill be cheering for the 49ers. I don't have to personally like Kaep, or hope he succeeds. Im conflicted. Biting my nose to spite my face lol. Its complicated.

chiefzilla1501 07-20-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9823857)
Yes, and like I said, I hope he does.

But if he will do it now, why didn't he do it before?

I don't think coaches change their stripes. I think they are who they are. Now, I don't think he's going to ask Smith to chuck it downfield a ton, but he needs to run the same offense that was successful early in his career in Philly.

Well... Reid is a West Coast Offense guy. But look at what he's doing.

He brought in Alex Smith and Chase Daniel and wasted no expense to get these guys. Both these guys are ideal for a more read option oriented offense. He brought in Chris Ault to coach the pistol and Brad Childress, whose only job is to consult on the spread.

I don't know how much of a spread or pistol he will run. But it seems like he's sending a pretty clear signal that he's planning to change his stripes, and it seems like he picked a QB to run his new offense (versus picking an offense that can be run by his new QB).

O.city 07-20-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9823877)
I can understand that. Loyalty just runs deep for me. Come week one, ill be cheering for the 49ers. I don't have to personally like Kaep, or hope he succeeds. Im conflicted. Biting my nose to spite my face lol. Its complicated.

Doesn't hoping your QB doesn't succeed, make it likely your team won't succeed?

Coogs 07-20-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9823857)
Yes, and like I said, I hope he does.

But if he will do it now, why didn't he do it before?

I'm not all up to date on everything Reid did X's and O's wise every season in Philly.

He was a pretty good coach prior to his boys having personal issues the last few years. Maybe the change in cities will be a good thing in more ways than on for Reid. I'm thinking it will be.

Easy 6 07-20-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9823852)
However, as for your expectations re: the pistol, I think the pistol's a gimmick that's going to have a very short shelf life in the NFL. It's the new Wildcat.

I definitely agree with this, all of these flashy schemes are eventually figured out and you have to get back to bread and butter football.


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