LMAOHarvick has a shit day and moves to 2nd place

Good for Jr!!! bout time that boy got pissed! Maybe he will get a little more aggressive and win some races~

The last 5 laps is what frustrates me most about Carl these days....once Menard got inside his head, they just settled for 5th and keeping the points lead. In the days before Carl went "corporate" he would have kept fighting to the end for position.

Glad that he is still leading the Points Standing, but it just seems like Carl has lost his killer instinct.

:spock: So you wanted him to over drive his car and cause a wreck?

He actually gained one to second....Standings updated in OP

well, you tell them that... they're 100x crazier than regular football fans

anyway, I'm superstitious. you'll never hear me talk shit about NFL teams the Giants are scheduled to play during the season.

I was laughing about that a couple of posts down when I heard. Ruined my whole temper tantrum~

Turned over to golf, what'd he do?

In the interview post race said that Martin (paraphrasing) just put him into the wall and he's tired of carelessness on the racetrack and that (quoting now) "really pissed me off, what happened out there"

I am the #5 fan and Martin moved up and forced him up in the wall.

Surely you aren't that illogical.....if you think he was over-driving that car maybe I should question your NASCAR-sense.

Carl made one run at Menard and then settled back into his position. Sure didn't seem to be too much trouble to try it for the 2 cars running at the front of the pack.

And if you don't think the points should mean something then you forget how close some of the Race to The Chase have become.

I have talked to people here and in real life that believe that silly shit. I tell them the same thing. Do you really think you have the power to effect the outcome of something you are not involved in LMAO Please tell me you are smarter than that~

I agree. That's why I said that in post #2699. Were you meaning to quote Dylan?

Look what happened to the 17 when he tried to make more than he had. He was damn lucky to save it. Carl is driving solid and smart and I dislike the prick~

Did solid and smart get him the title last year? Carl has become the same thing that Jeff Gordon became and made him lose his edge.

Too Corporate....

Well that pretty much answers any questions about how exciting this race was.

The entire sport has become too corporate...and too sanitized. I find myself becoming less and less interested in it each year.

To be fair, I have baseball and Indycar occupying the 2nd TV.

That's like a boredom quadfecta.

Maybe my problem is I watched NASCAR when it was less corporate. I remember going to the Races in Hickory NC and watching guys like Petty, Waltrip, Gant, Earnhardt Sr. and Morgan Shepherd race like they hated each other, then fight it out in the infield afterwards.

On this we can agree. But Carl is doing nothing wrong and is leading the points with a win for ****s sake~

I cannot think of a driver that is more the "corporate" type you are talking about than Jimmy Johnson. He has won 5 in a row~

I used to work around IBM and Cerner. Johnson was considered a real bad boy around there.

LMAO yeah milk and cookies Johnson is quite the outlaw~

I'm trying to figure out why Dsynfn is on my ignore list -- can anybody shed some light on it? LMAO

he must've cursed out my giants - lol



bugeater,

can you look in your secret files and check your notes?

TIA http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

PING!

truebigdog, are you sure I wasn't pressing buttons?

i like to do that sometimes with nastycar fans... o:-)

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the giants hired Larry Izzo to help coach special teams !!!

Amazing player his entire career!


Edit: Great hire!!

Coughlin to Dodge: "Kick the ball out of bounds!" Season over! LMAO

Giants to hire Larry Izzo

By Dan Graziano

Looking for ways to improve their dismal punt return game, the New York Giants plan to hire former Dolphins, Jets and Patriots special teams whiz Larry Izzo, according to The Star-Ledger's Giants beat whiz Mike Garafolo. Izzo is a 14-year veteran who went to three Pro Bowls as a special teamer. Mike says Izzo will work as an assistant to special teams coach Tom Quinn, attempting to help "improve the team's return game (last in punt returns, next-to-last in kick returns last season) and help a punt-coverage unit that allowed the second-highest average in the NFL (14.9 yards per return) and a pair of touchdowns in 2010."

Izzo was one of those cult-hero players around whom legends would spring up, mainly because he never looked the part of the big, bad NFL star but managed to make so many who did look bad. I was covering the Dolphins in 1996, which was Jimmy Johnson's first year as coach and Izzo's first year in the league. During a preseason meeting, Johnson was going through film with the team and talking about what had to be done in order to make the team. "Make plays," Johnson said, then showed a clip of Dan Marino making one of his brilliant touchdown throws. "Dan Marino makes plays," Johnson said. "Dan Marino is on the team."

The next clip was of Izzo making an insane special teams tackle in a preseason game. Remember, this was an undrafted free agent of Rice who'd been an afterthought among anyone (inside or outside that room) who was paying attention to the potential roster. "Larry Izzo makes plays," Johnson said. "Larry Izzo is on the team." The meeting ended shortly thereafter.

That story is true. It's also the way Izzo found out he made his first NFL roster. As Izzo's career blossomed over the next decade, I never forgot the day the 1996 Dolphins were told the only two players who'd made the team so far were Dan Marino and Larry Izzo. The guy built an NFL career on fierce determination. Having him around can't be a bad thing for a special teams unit that needs more intensity.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post...ire-larry-izzo

Nice hire.

He used to be mmaddog, if that helps. Not sure why you would've had to put him on ignore, he's a good dude.

oh ok... he's nice... i really don't have any members on ignore

but i think he hates the giants http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif




NASCAR NATIONWIDE ROAD COURSE RACE IS ON ESPN

this should be one big cluster**** of a race

LAP ONE

caution is out

LMAO

Wonder boy & championship leader Stenhouse takes a spin

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/a...omepage-t1.jpg

Boom right into his teammate! Points leader Ricky Stenhouse Jr. and Reed Sorenson got together in Turn 3 and Stenhouse got the worst of it with some front-end damage.

hard lick -- wonder if he's still breathing http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-3587.gif

1 Michael McDowell 47 105.190 138.54 0.000 24 --
2 Ron Fellows 47 106.003 137.48 8.021 6 --
3 Brian Scott 47 103.338 141.02 12.159 5 435
4 Max Papis 47 105.427 138.23 16.778 0 --
5 Jacques Villeneuve 47 105.715 137.85 16.958 6 --
6 Elliott Sadler 47 105.379 138.29 18.628 0 561
7 Justin Allgaier 47 104.690 139.20 21.085 0 545
8 Reed Sorenson 47 105.509 138.12 23.933 0 557
9 Jason Leffler 47 105.261 138.44 29.514 0 506
10 Michael Annett 47 102.022 142.84 32.522 0 405
11 Andrew Ranger

nASCAR riNGERS ARE fighting IT out - 3 to go


mess on the track ... hope they're not gonna drag out the curtain...

LMAO j/k

OMG wtf happened?

Villeneuve put Papis hard into the wall --

i wonder if papis is alive

Hard hit

what ****ing idiot!

OMG MAJOR CRASH

CARS ARE SCATTERED EVERYWHERE!

holy shit! who's left ? the leaders wrecked! LMAO

This is hysterical: Tiki Barker and his agent Mark Lepselter call in to talk with Mike Francesa (WFAN) to talk about his broadcasting career and his return to the NFL. Francesa was at his arrogant best as the conversation gets VERY testy. Tiki loses it. Wow, what a idiot!... LMAO

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/?podcast...es&dcid=CBS.NY

CBS Sports:

Sneaky-Tiki-Tawdry: Ex-Giants Star Battling Depression

According to a recent report from The Associated Press, which obtained some quotes from a piece aired on HBO, Barber speaks at length about his tumble down the totem pole, from iconic running back to well-paid pitchman, to a leading man on NBC’s wildly successful “Today Show,” to unemployed, unfaithful, divorced, destitute, and destroyed middle-aged man who is attempting a most daunting comeback into the NFL.

Tiki Barber, who reminds you of Nag, the fictional cobra who approaches you as a pal only to strike when you least expect. And Barber’s backbiting and resultant venom have infected a few, former pals with the old “NY” emblazoned on their helmet.

Barber has used depression as an appalling pretext for his abhorrent behavior. A depressed person will slouch on the couch for months on end (as he admitted he did.) It does not, however, lead already narcissistic stars to abandon their pregnant wife (8 months pregnant, in fact, with his twins) for a 23-year-old intern, and thus vaporizing his career with NBC, who was paying Barber $2 million per year to look pretty next to Matt Lauer.

Depression doesn’t force you to announce your retirement from football in the middle of the season, blasting a formidable fissure into a team toiling for a playoff spot. (In a sweet slice of karma, the Giants won the Super Bowl Shortly after Barber bounced.) It doesn’t move you to shove your coach – who saved your career by teaching you to properly hold a football and not literally fumble away your prime – under the team bus. It doesn’t sharpen your teeth for the instant backstabbing behind a microphone, questioning Eli Manning’s leadership qualities. (Did we mention that Eli won the Super Bowl without Barber, and actually won the Super Bowl MVP in the process?)

And where was this depression when Barber was in his prime, when he was dashing through holes and smashing team rushing records, when he was making millions of dollars? Some shrinks refer to “situational depression” which implies that, basically, we screw up and don’t feel so hot about it. Sounds and smells like the work in the Barber shop.

This is a twisted form of foxhole prayer, a way to endear himself to a fan base that abandoned him, even booing him as he was inducted into the Giants’ Ring of Honor, a highly incongruous scene for an appropriately conflicted man. Had Barber so much as flashed a good side he’d find New York a forgiving town. Just ask Doc and Darryl, who got clean, came clean, and even when they were once again devoured by their demons they found us waiting on the other side of the cell, cheering them on. It takes a special kind of jerk to lose us for good, and Barber has his doctorate in burning bridges.

Barber had the bona fides to be a star in any galaxy, from his looks to his presence to his intelligence to his oratory skills. Fumbling went from an on-field issue to societal scar tissue, a perfect metaphor for a self-absorbed creep who found time to blame everyone for his problems except himself.

“I crafted this career, right?” Barber said.

You sure did, Tiki. The bed is made and may you have a most restless sleep.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/06/...ng-depression/

The next 36-year-old running back to light the league on fire will be the first.

NASCRAP ON TNT

WE'RE IN CALI !

put the redneck shit away!

Get out the wine & cheese!

LOL

Toni turned Vickers around

ohforcryinoutloud --i think junior got swept into Stewie's aggressive mess! Son of a b.

"he just pushed me all the in there - fat bastard" /Vickers

LMAO

Ping princess

Ah, Ping, honey!!!

everyone else still has their pissy drawers on with their head on the pillow! http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

LMAO

LOL Robby ruffed up Baby Logano

Logano pulled up behind Robby and sent him flying into the kitty litter LMAO

Watch Robby race like a bat out of hell -- pull up behind him and get even!

McDowell pulled a bonehead move on Labonte and sent him into the wall.

There's a lot of dust & oil all over the track

Should be a good restart

Showtime for 22, 14, 18 or 48

Matt goes around - not sure who hit him in the rear

wut?

i have a feeling Truex is gonna go flying into the wine stand ...

Uh oh... Ambrose & Montoya are behind Kyle

two cutthroat racers who take-no-prisoners

bugeater: Live Buddy is free -- you can ride with the #14 and listen in on his scanner

http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/webcast/tnt_racebuddy/

tony has the fastest car right now.

once the top three pit

how many cautions?

OMG VICKERS JUST CRASHED TONY INTO THE WALL

WOW TONY'S CAR IS RESTING ON TOP OF THE WALL

PAYBACK IS A BITCH!

Holy shit, Tony could have won the race!

LMAO

Junior will quietly thank Vickers at the end of the race... LMAO

Atta boy Vickers! LOL

BOYSHAVEATIT.COM

Recap:

Tony tried to kill Vickers
Tony tried to Jamie Mac
Denny tried to kill Truex
McDud tried to kill Bobby
Robby tried to kill Logano
Logano tried to kill Robby
Ambrose tried to kill Blaney

Remember Montoya is a good driver. That's what they do in F1 you know.

Who did Montoya just try to kill? LMAO

Kahne?

How did the 88 get taken out?

when Toni was trying to kill Vickers, the 88 and two other cars got caught up in the mess

Karma bitch

Oh shit, Kewelowski tried to kill Montoya

Montoya pulls his car back on the track -- Escobar' in roadrage mode gunning for Brad LMAO

R.I.P.

Juan got dumped... good.

There are going to be some seriously pissed off people after this race.

Yeah, but he's not out of the race... and he's gunning for Brad... LMAO

Go Kurt!!!

Kurt will finish with a spotless car... Carl and Gordon both drove excellent races.

Agreed.

and bowyer finished 4th

lots of paybacks from previous races

Kurt had a rocket all day and the best car won on a track where that does not always happen congrats! A well deserved pat on the back for my boy who turned trash into treasure for a top 10 and passed on a chance to punt the big ear mutant. Pablo continues to be a shitbag~

Juan says everyone else doesn't know how to drive and that's why he finished outside the top 20.

LMAO

He deserved it~

I forgot - Brad tried to kill Kyle and took him out

Kyle came back & finished 11th

I am starting to like Brad ;)

OP updated to include standings

kstater, your girl's up! Go Daddy! :D

Live Leaderboard -

http://www.nascar.com/nationwideseri...oard/practice/

Oh yeah, Nationwide @ Daytona tomorrow night!

Hey, bugeater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.rletc.com/images/smilies/...0whistling.gif Bowyer wrecked his car!

Oh look, NASCRAP is throwing us a bone! : Live Webcast : Garage Cam

http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/webcast/generic/

Next: Cup Series practice

Teams finally are able to take their cars out of the garage on a rainy day at Daytona for a 45-minute practice session beginning at 6:55 p.m. ET.

http://www.nascar.com/races/leaderboard/cup/practice/

Watch Live Free : http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/web...sc_cid=ss_11_7

Thanks, TNT

I haven't been paying attention, I guess. Are we still gonna see that rediculous synchronized pairs Dancing with the Cars shit, or did someone do something about it?

Kyle Busch working with Carl Edwards...

LMAO