Do you think Minnesota will give us another CB?

The crazy thing is we probably have the shittiest group of running backs in football and we haven’t had injuries at the position.

Bunch of teams have a #2 better than our starter.

On top of that, we cut a guy who was under a cheap contract and was a proven performer in this offense.

CEH is still going have some great and impressive games for us so I'm not going be too down on the young RB. It sucks he fumbled but he doesn't put it on the turf all that much and he can still be a force to reckon with when he finds his groove behind this offensive line.


That carry with almost all of Ravens defense on his back for a first down was impressive just need more impressive runs out of him and he will be worth the pick. We got more concerns about our defense than our running game that will get going.

It's definitely true. I'm way more concerned with the defense than Clyde or the run game or anything offensively related.

Even on that last run it sure looked like he could have bounced it outside to the right, avoiding the pile and the defender who caused him to fumble.

But nope, he was just running straight up the wall of people instead.

I like CEH one bad play shouldn't define the game. Defense lost this game. Yes crucial moment like that he should've had both hands on the ball. Mental mistake and you bet this will be something that he will be reminded bout. Oh well can't win em all. Bring on the Chargers. Oh yes BTW just cause I like CEH doesn't mean he was my pick with our first pick, I wanted Dobbins or Jonathan Taylor.

I remember Kareem Hunts first game vs the Patriots. He fumbled and lost the fumble. He was seen on the sidelines shaking his head and had a look on his face like "**** that, I'm gonna prove to everyone that I'm way better than that" and then had like 150 yards and dominated.

If CEH doesn't do that next week vs the Chargers, Stop Giving Him Carries.

CEH or Hellen Keller?

Kareem Hunt came back and did this:

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When CEH does something like this, everyone will get off his case.

The problem with being optimistic about CEH is that it’s pretty clear at this point he only gets what is readily available, sometimes even less, due to blocking and scheme and that’s basically it. So even with a good game here and there he is still going to have left more out there so a good game isn’t going to be a sign of improvement at all for me.

He will never be anywhere near Kareem Hunt. He is what we are seeing.

Keller would be less likely to run straight into a the only group of people in the way.

Didn’t CEH fumble late in the Bills regular season game last year, but thankfully his knee was down just a split second before the ball popped out?

Getting rid of Hunt was a ****ing HUGE mistake. One that will continually haunt us for ages. With him our offence was the perfect machine.

That’s correct.

In any case, whether he's capable of improving or not, while it is important to create a culture where you trust your players, there needs to be a message sent.

Andy needs to drastically reduce Clyde's carries. Let him figure out and find those holes while on the bench.

Inexcusable shit like this needs to be met head on and dealt with. We're on a mission. Don't **** up that mission for everybody else.

He's too slow and his strides are too short to bounce it outside. This a huge limitation in his game. His lack of speed really becomes apparent when you see him running diagonally towards the sideline.

Gotta move on from him, it's not going to get better.

Players play.

I don't love the call but Mahomes carving them up was probably precisely why Reid went to the run there. He'd seen our defense. He knew we needed to bleed the clock.

IIRC, it was 1st & 10 right around midfield with a little under 2 minutes left. Knowing we absolutely have to run clock, the whole playbook is open there.

That one was on CEH.

If I blame Reid for anything, it'd be continuing to trot CEH out there as the starter. He's completely ineffective.

Need to promote Gore, If anything hopefully it lights a fire under his ass.

Yup.

Yeah, at first I thought he was just missing the read to the outside. Now I'm wondering if he's just not capable of bursting to the outside. Because defenses are giving that to him many many times.

Letting D. Williams go was a mistake..... No clue why we did

I think Andy needs to bench CEH and claim injury. Call up Gore and lead with Darrel Williams. It gives CEH an excuse, gives him time to figure shit out, and it's possible he isn't playing at 100% which isn't helping. Hopefully gore shines and CEH has to fight his way into playing time.

Agreed. He was pretty cheap. Although if gore is legit then its not a bad move.

Is it possible Reid sees CEH practicing against our run _efense and thinks he's a great running back? CEH or anybody for that matter can tear up our run _efense according to the last 2 games. :huh:

It’s possible. 3.2 would look like (groan) Emmitt Smith against our defense.

I get where you’re coming from, but Andy has been around football forever. He wouldn’t be fooled by fraudulent success in practice.

If CEH is playing ahead of McKinnon and Gore, then i wouldn’t be too enthusiastic about McKinnon and Gore.

I really liked gore in PS... I want him promoted post haste!

So far looking like I was correct. :D

NFL is brutal. There's a million people that they could bring off the street that could compete for this job. CEH lucked out and has ridden a magic carpet ride with the chiefs for the last two years but at this point I wouldn't have him be the primary back. Too many other options the chiefs could bring in.

At least Darrell doesn’t run straight into blockers. Right now Williams is our best RB

Who would they bring in that would be much better?

Donnell Bennett?

Ethan Horton

Julian Washington

That was not a smart ass question btw, genuinely curious who is out there after the ravens and 9ers sucked up 4 rbs each.

Frank Gore
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I dn who else kinda wish we would have signed Mark Ingram.

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We need a guy like that. Someone we can give the ball to when the game is on the line, the defense knows we're gonna run, but we just need someone to get a couple tough yards, keep the clock moving and not fumble like an idiot at the slightest poke at the ball. The closest we have to that is Darrel Williams. He should've been the guy in the game.

Hindsight is 20/20 but Tee Higgins would have been awesome here

Pretty much how I see it,

JC worked because he would get skinny and burst through holes. But if you don't have that ability you need to be able to go north and south and take a hit and keep moving.

Feels like Clyde just gets stopped dead in his tracks.

This is embarrassing.

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oof

Major oof.

Clay,

Please delete this, I'm trying to be a Clyde stan and this isn't helping ok?

This fumble was real bad.

He's going to be even more conservative with his running style now.

Kareem Hunt is really ****ing good.

LMAO He's like a bastardized fusion of Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson. Lines up with his stocky midget build too.

And Damien Williams, vastly underrated...

And both long gone. :banghead:
Can't believe they let Damien go.

Damien was always my guy. Miss that dude a ton.

Big deal. Suck is suck.

I think DW made us mistakenly believe any RB could put up decent numbers with PH at QB.

FFS we were FOS and now we are FUBAR.

According to Spotrac, we saved $2.25 million by releasing Damien Williams.

That doesn’t seem worth it to me. We’d be better with him to at least split the load with Caught from bEHind.

I'm not too sure he plays nearly as much as he has been after that. LeSean had his role greatly reduced after the fumble that cost us the Colts game in 2019 then was basically banished to the shadow realm after his fumble that cost us the Packers game.

DW opted out due to COVID.

And then we released him. He could still be on the roster right now.

He had a pretty valid excuse if I remember correctly.

That's how much Andrew Wylie makes. We kept that fat bundle of sticks over Williams.

I think you're correct. Just think how good the offense would be with a good RB.

I said we should bring in Todd Gurley to help the run game and people laughed. The run game we have now may be the worst in the Mahomes era. At least with Williams he could catch the ball and had the speed to take one to the house every now and then but these guys can barely muster 60 yards per game right now. We can't continue like this.

Are you talking organization or fans?

Gurley has the knees of an 80 year old arthritic broke dick.

We could've not signed Jarran Reed and been able to keep Damien Williams plus had enough left over to hire a few cheerleaders that don't look like they could eat an apple through a chain link fence.

Yes

That's my read, too. I think the team didn't trust Damien after he (reportedly) loafed it on his rehab in 2019 but his success in 2018 and 2019 made them believe that anyone could be plugged into his role and excel. The passcatching out of the backfield is what I miss the most.

Wouldn't have taken a RB in the first if the organization felt that way. They just chose the wrong one unless CEH somehow redeems himself.

I said this team needed another RB in this draft cause Clyde at his best is a 1b. I wouldn't have been opposed to them spending a 1st or second on one, but they didn't even bring in any UDFAs for a look. Makes no sense to me with the attention they paid to the OL TE and FB position.

Exactly why they thought he would work for them. He does not have the traits of other smaller backs but they assumed in this offense he would still be an above average fit.

Veach and Reid are human and will not make the perfect decision every time.

He got nine TD's last season for around 800 yards rushing..wouldn't you take that right now? Sharing the rock should get him through the season fine imo.

The traits we drafted him for made him a perfect fit in this offense hypothetically. They just haven't translated at all for whatever reason.

The pass catching is interesting, because all of his draft analysis/hype indicated that is what Clyde's strength would be. Chiefs line him up all over but he has really not shown a ability to run routes or beat lb's one on one.

He plays like an Emmitt Smith with only 1 eye.

When we were about to pick I felt we were going for Swift or Taylor..then they read out Clyde's name and I was a little under-whelmed tbh. The fact is he only had one year of production plus his physical traits were not elite...now here we are a year later and we still have no run game.

For now shitty his night ended he really wasn't doing all that bad in the first half. Had a run for 7 and two for 9. It's why the Ravens were so keyed in on the early downs in the second half and Reid was a little too predictable.

We just burnt a 1 on a RB. We can't spend another 1-3 rounder on RB so soon while we've still got to retool the WR, DL and LB groups.

We only got an LB out of those three positions with out first three picks....I don't see why we couldn't have went RB. But that's not my main point. CEH was overdrafted and they didn't bring in much to compete with him

I feel like CEH is starting and get more snaps because he was a 1st round draft pick.

At this point, he looks slow, and his vision is pretty bad most of the time, or he is determining where he is running before the play even happens. I say that because in two games so far this year, he has missed gaps and huge holes, only to run up the ass of the OL.

And the fumble to me is just too much on top of the lack of speed, and lack of vision. In that situation, every single skill position player had one job, and that was ball security.

McKinnon looks much faster, seems to be just as good or better in the receiving department, and seemed to make good choices when running the ball in the preseason.

I feel like it's at least time for McKinnon to get a few carries.

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I just hope they don't keep giving him the ball over and over just because they spent a 1st on him. I guess that's another reason why you shouldn't draft a RB in the 1st, you feel obligated to start him and give him carries regardless if you should or not.