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KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17254331)
Also, Bama’s loss is better than Texas’s loss.

The interesting part is that Texas is Bama’s loss.

Bama has the best win of the two and the better loss.

I think the Committee picks Bama.

As do I. They'll separate the H2H and look at the entire season of work.

tk13 12-02-2023 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254333)
You could say the same thing about Texas losing to OU.

There's no "right" answer here. It's just who the committee thinks are the four best teams.

You can't though, they played head to head on the same field. I mean I'd rather see Alabama but if you put two teams head to head and one beats the other and it means nothing, then the entire sport is pointless. The end. If Alabama gets in it has to be at Florida State or Michigan's expense.

smithandrew051 12-02-2023 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17254335)
If Alabama’s loss is better, doesn’t that validate Texas’ case even more since that “quality loss” was to Texas?

It’s a circular argument, but I think that’s how the Committee justifies Bama over Texas.

I’d put Texas in personally.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17254338)
You can't though, they played head to head on the same field. I mean I'd rather see Alabama but if you put two teams head to head and one beats the other and it means nothing, then the entire sport is pointless. The end. If Alabama gets in it has to be at Florida State or Michigan's expense.

It doesn't have to mean nothing. It's just not the sole determining factor. Nor should it be if the committee's job is to actually pick who they think the four best teams are.

AustinChief 12-02-2023 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17254308)
Let the playoff selection drama begin. Texas is probably the weakest team but they won by 10 on the road at Alabama. If you don't put them in over Alabama there's no point in playing the games. Just don't play any of the games and put the most talented teams in and be done with it.

Exactly. If Alabama gets in over Texas the whole system is a joke

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:42 PM

A quality win > A quality loss.

Especially when that quality win was Texas going into Tuscaloosa and decisively beating Alabama.

tk13 12-02-2023 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254341)
It doesn't have to mean nothing. It's just not the sole determining factor. Nor should it be if the committee's job is to actually pick who they think the four best teams are.

Then why have a playoff? Why pit the teams head-to-head in a single game that determines the champion if a single game between two teams on the same field isn't the sole determining factor? The argument defeats the entire point of a playoff in the first place. Just have the committee name the best team, they're the champion, game over.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17254343)
A quality win > A quality loss.

Especially when that quality win was Texas going into Tuscaloosa and decisively beating Alabama.

Or Alabama beating Georgia in a conference championship game, a school that had completely dominated the sport for two years?

AustinChief 12-02-2023 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254341)
It doesn't have to mean nothing. It's just not the sole determining factor. Nor should it be if the committee's job is to actually pick who they think the four best teams are.

So the better team is the one who lost by double digits to the other team? That's ridiculous. If that's true than as pointed out the games DO NOT MATTER.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 17254346)
So the better team is the one who lost by double digits to the other team? That's ridiculous. If that's true than as pointed out the games DO NOT MATTER.

Maybe? They played 3 months ago. They aren't getting judged solely on that game.

AustinChief 12-02-2023 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17254338)
You can't though, they played head to head on the same field. I mean I'd rather see Alabama but if you put two teams head to head and one beats the other and it means nothing, then the entire sport is pointless. The end. If Alabama gets in it has to be at Florida State or Michigan's expense.

Michigan's expense? They are the clear #1 team now. And no way Washington is not #2. Those are locks at this point.

Edit: I am of course assuming a win today, if Michigan loses they are out and deservedly so.

ROYC75 12-02-2023 06:45 PM

Tuck Fexas! 4321. This is the way I see it,

If Mich & FSU wins, they will put Alabama in.

If FSU loses, they will put GA. In too.

Bwana 12-02-2023 06:46 PM

Lets go Iowa, pull a upset.

ping2000 12-02-2023 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 17254342)
Exactly. If Alabama gets in over Texas the whole system is a joke

Except **** Texas in the ass. They might get screwed by the champ of the conference they quit the B12 to get into. No sympathy for that shit program. They ****up every conference they are in. **** them and **** the sooners too. Good riddance.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:48 PM

Alabama needed a miracle to beat a team last week that was curb stomped by New Mexico State.

Don’t just look at today to evaluate their profile.

Look at them losing by double digits at home vs Texas.

Look at them struggle to beat a terrible USF team.

DJ's left nut 12-02-2023 06:49 PM

This should be easy but the committee will mess it up.

Sorry FSU - your quarterback is hurt. Moving along.

Sorry Georgia, you've been great for several years but you've been a little vulnerable at times this year, you aren't a conference champ and you have the same record as several other teams. You essentially have the same resume as Ohio State. Better luck next year.


Michigan, Washington, Alabama and Texas. It just seems too easy for them to **** it up.

You aren't going to have no SEC teams in. You aren't going to put UGA in over 'Bama. And if you put Bama in, you can't keep Texas out for Georgia when Texas beat 'Bama on the road.

This is just a no brainer to me. But we shall see...

AustinChief 12-02-2023 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17254355)
Alabama needed a miracle to beat a team last week that was curb stomped by New Mexico State.

Don’t just look at today to evaluate their profile.

Look at them losing by double digits at home vs Texas.

Look at them struggle to beat a terrible USF team.

Exactly. People just can't wrap their head around the fact the SEC isn't that great this year.

Pablo 12-02-2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17254322)
There are going to be a LOT of ER visits for wives in rural Georgia tonight.

Dem dawgs broke mah heart now I gotta break your ribs woman!!!!

Bama wives are just now recovering from the ass-whoopin they took when Texas beat the tide.

AustinChief 12-02-2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17254356)
This should be easy but the committee will mess it up.

Sorry FSU - your quarterback is hurt. Moving along.

Sorry Georgia, you've been great for several years but you've been a little vulnerable at times this year, you aren't a conference champ and you have the same record as several other teams. You essentially have the same resume as Ohio State. Better luck next year.


Michigan, Washington, Alabama and Texas. It just seems too easy for them to **** it up.

You aren't going to have no SEC teams in. You aren't going to put UGA in over 'Bama. And if you put Bama in, you can't keep Texas out for Georgia when Texas beat 'Bama on the road.

This is just a no brainer to me. But we shall see...

If FSU wins and wins solidly today, it will be next to impossible to ignore them.

DJ's left nut 12-02-2023 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 17254359)
If FSU wins and wins solidly today, it will be next to impossible to ignore them.

I'd manage...

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 17254359)
If FSU wins and wins solidly today, it will be next to impossible to ignore them.

Agreed (unfortunately).

They would be 2-0 without Jordan Travis… wins at Florida and vs a top 15 Louisville team.

AustinChief 12-02-2023 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17254360)
I'd manage...

Ha! To be honest I had no clue they were undefeated until a few weeks back. I'd ignored them and their entire shit conference.

tk13 12-02-2023 06:57 PM

Something to watch is if Florida State gets a lead, do they try to run it up on Louisville just to try and impress the committee.

displacedinMN 12-02-2023 06:58 PM

praying for something special

Sassy Squatch 12-02-2023 07:00 PM

Iowa and FSU winning is peak chaos.

Shiver Me Timbers 12-02-2023 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 17254342)
Exactly. If Alabama gets in over Texas the whole system is a joke

They will and it is

ping2000 12-02-2023 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17254369)
praying for something special

Hoping Harbaugh's head explodes, mostly because he is a cheating prick asshole.

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 07:03 PM

Corn vs Edmund Fitzgerald.

Pablo 12-02-2023 07:03 PM

Can't root for the cheatin' school of tom brady here, so I guess corn east needs to manage 3 defensive TDs to win this.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 07:06 PM

There is precedent for FSU… Ohio State in the first CFP lost their starting QB to injury in their regular season finale vs Michigan.

They crushed Wisconsin 59-0 with their back-up QB in the Big 10 Championship Game and were selected to the CFP.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 07:09 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kirby Smart makes his case to the playoff selection committee. <a href="https://t.co/fTZPflb9mi">pic.twitter.com/fTZPflb9mi</a></p>&mdash; Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/1731113069705588992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Best four teams.

dlphg9 12-02-2023 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17254356)
This should be easy but the committee will mess it up.

Sorry FSU - your quarterback is hurt. Moving along.

Sorry Georgia, you've been great for several years but you've been a little vulnerable at times this year, you aren't a conference champ and you have the same record as several other teams. You essentially have the same resume as Ohio State. Better luck next year.


Michigan, Washington, Alabama and Texas. It just seems too easy for them to **** it up.

You aren't going to have no SEC teams in. You aren't going to put UGA in over 'Bama. And if you put Bama in, you can't keep Texas out for Georgia when Texas beat 'Bama on the road.

This is just a no brainer to me. But we shall see...

There is no way you can keep an undefeated FSU team out if they are undefeated. You can't punish them solely based on the fact that there starting QB got injured.

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 07:20 PM

Wow! Iowa ran a reverse.

That’s never happened.

displacedinMN 12-02-2023 07:21 PM

3 and out. big surprise

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 07:24 PM

I fully expect Bronco Nagurski to show up for Iowa.

Pinchshot 12-02-2023 07:24 PM

Gator arms there

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 07:31 PM

Iowa’s D will spend 45 game minutes on the field.

displacedinMN 12-02-2023 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17254400)
Iowa’s D will spend 45 game minutes on the field.

I think they did vs penn state


edit 14:33 possession for iowa

45:27 for the Iowa D

kstater 12-02-2023 07:34 PM

That's game in Indianapolis

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smithandrew051 12-02-2023 07:40 PM

3-0 feels insurmountable

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 07:43 PM

Gotta hold em to a FG

Pablo 12-02-2023 07:43 PM

Welp that’s gonna be ballgame. About to be an insurmountable double digit lead here

ping2000 12-02-2023 07:43 PM

Herm Edwards loves the Iowa offense.

Pablo 12-02-2023 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17254407)
3-0 feels insurmountable

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17254411)
Welp that’s gonna be ballgame. About to be an insurmountable double digit lead here

Iowa offense buzzword

smithandrew051 12-02-2023 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17254413)
Iowa offense buzzword

The Iowa Insurmountables

Pablo 12-02-2023 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17254415)
The Iowa Insurmountables

This seems nice!

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 07:46 PM

I think Iowa really brought their offense into the 1960’s with two reverses on their 1st two possessions

ping2000 12-02-2023 07:46 PM

Iowa defense has better chance of scoring than their offense. They should punt on 1st down.

Pablo 12-02-2023 07:46 PM

Iowa fans when somebody tries to talk to them about their offense:

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ping2000 12-02-2023 07:50 PM

Michigan stole Iowa's signs, but they decided not to tell their defense what was coming since it was too boring and thought it might put the players to sleep.

Sassy Squatch 12-02-2023 07:52 PM

LMAO well, figures.

ping2000 12-02-2023 08:00 PM

Iowa offense based old electronic football game . . . except even less exciting.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8633357119.jpg

DJ's left nut 12-02-2023 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17254384)
There is no way you can keep an undefeated FSU team out if they are undefeated. You can't punish them solely based on the fact that there starting QB got injured.

I don't agree.

It's a selection committee and this team wouldn't have been undefeated without their QB. You're not punishing them any more than you would be punishing a mid-major team for being undefeated with a weak schedule.

Undefeated or not, the latter isn't one of the top 4 teams in the country.

Neither is FSU without their QB.

Garcia Bronco 12-02-2023 08:06 PM

Man I was hoping Florida State could put up something and their defense is playing great but even if they win I think they're out.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 08:06 PM

This FSU team has no business being in the playoff.

Garcia Bronco 12-02-2023 08:07 PM

I'm not sure Georgia is out either.

WhawhaWhat 12-02-2023 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254436)
This FSU team has no business being in the playoff.

other than being undefeated.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17254441)
other than being undefeated.

So is Liberty.

WhawhaWhat 12-02-2023 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254445)
So is Liberty.

So is South Dakota State.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17254446)
So is South Dakota State.

Maybe we should put 'em all in the playoff if W/L record is all that matters.

staylor26 12-02-2023 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17254433)
I don't agree.

It's a selection committee and this team wouldn't have been undefeated without their QB. You're not punishing them any more than you would be punishing a mid-major team for being undefeated with a weak schedule.

Undefeated or not, the latter isn't one of the top 4 teams in the country.

Neither is FSU without their QB.

The same people will be bitching when FSU makes it and gets blown the **** out.

tredadda 12-02-2023 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254341)
It doesn't have to mean nothing. It's just not the sole determining factor. Nor should it be if the committee's job is to actually pick who they think the four best teams are.

So UGA deserves to still be in the playoffs? Hard to argue that they are not one of the four best teams in the country.

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 08:21 PM

Iowa set up on the UM 40.

smithandrew051 12-02-2023 08:21 PM

Brutal drop by Florida State

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 08:23 PM

God dammit. Looked like a fumble.

CaliforniaChief 12-02-2023 08:31 PM

Florida State is not one of the four best teams in college football.

This is obvious, isn't it?

smithandrew051 12-02-2023 08:32 PM

Well that was a good bounce on that punt

CaliforniaChief 12-02-2023 08:32 PM

Tory Taylor starting to take over this game for Iowa. LMAO

staylor26 12-02-2023 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 17254462)
Florida State is not one of the four best teams in college football.

This is obvious, isn't it?

Yes, even the people arguing for them won't argue otherwise, hence UnDeFeAtEd.

Garcia Bronco 12-02-2023 08:33 PM

I get the sense that it's going to be Michigan Washington Alabama and Georgia in the playoff

CaliforniaChief 12-02-2023 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17254466)
I get the sense that it's going to be Michigan Washington Alabama and Georgia in the playoff

Georgia or Texas. Those are the five best teams in the country.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17254451)
So UGA deserves to still be in the playoffs? Hard to argue that they are not one of the four best teams in the country.

I don't think it has anything to do with whether a team "deserves" it because what does that even mean? If they're a top 4 team in the country, they should be there.

WilliamTheIrish 12-02-2023 08:45 PM

Two pretty terrible games.

Although I admire the Iowa defense.

tredadda 12-02-2023 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254470)
I don't think it has anything to do with whether a team "deserves" it because what does that even mean? If they're a top 4 team in the country, they should be there.

Deserving it means rewarding a team that finished undefeated and winning their P5 championship. Now if we argue the best four teams in the country, there is no way that one can argue that UGA isn't one of them. So it's either the four most deserving or the four best.

KC_Connection 12-02-2023 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17254477)
Deserving it means rewarding a team that finished undefeated and winning their P5 championship. Now if we argue the best four teams in the country, there is no way that one can argue that UGA isn't one of them. So it's either the four most deserving or the four best.

I think the idea is for them to pick the four best.

Garcia Bronco 12-02-2023 08:49 PM

I think Texas and instead of Georgia makes it more exciting.

tredadda 12-02-2023 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254478)
I think the idea is for them to pick the four best.

So UGA, Michigan, then a "Pick 2" from a list of Washington, Bama, and Texas?

MarkDavis'Haircut 12-02-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254478)
I think the idea is for them to pick the four best.

Then why play the game?

Everyone thought Bama was better than Texas. Then the game was played.

Booger got it right in his halftime speech.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254478)
I think the idea is for them to pick the four best.

Four best based on what criteria?

Eye test?

On the field results?

MarkDavis'Haircut 12-02-2023 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17254445)
So is Liberty.

Sure. Put them in.

The FCS has every champion compete in the playoffs. Somehow no one's eyes melt when it happens.


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