I'm forcing myself into becoming a fan

He still manages to throw absolute strikes even off balance. Give him time with an NFL coach to strengthen his footwork and the sky is the limit for Geno.

Not at all, but I have no ****ing idea how number 80 for NC State is playing in D1. The dude is a complete dropfest.

I can't wait until next year when West Virginia will be without not only Geno Smith but also Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey, AND JD Woods. Holgorson's offense is going to look uglier and fatter than an ice-skating hippo. I think people will then realize that the version that he runs is predicated on talent more than anything. That contrary to popular belief, it's NOT a system that can plug in average ****s like Mike Leach did all the time and still have success.

Holgorson's offense uses some elements of Leach's timing spread. It's far from the same, though. People don't get this, though, and just say, "Golly, Geno's such a ****ing spreadtard I don't want any part of him."

In any case, at least there are plays that allow Geno Smith to show off his arm strength and downfield capabilities. That's far more (and better) information that we have to go off of than we got from Ryan Tannehill last year. If you'll remember, Tannehill was criticized because he never threw downfield... only screens. Some of those were play designs, but a lot of them were dumpoffs because Tannehill couldn't find the open guy down the field.

I just want to draft a damn qb in the first round, because I want to root for my team again. I'm sick of sucking for luck and gargling for Geno.

I agree.

That's why I'd rather have him than Glennon, Wilson, or anybody else for that matter.

And it's not that I believe Geno is a total project. Cause the #1 overall pick should never be a project. But I think if you plugged him into the NFL right now, he'd be average. Give him the right system, and coach to work with him, and I think he'd be great.

I chalk that up to footwork more than anything. Even then, I don't find that to be a problem at all.

When I say antsy, I mean can't ****ing do your goddamn ****ing job under pressure. Geno completes throws when he knows he's going to get hit. Glennon does not.

Anyone who has sat and watched him play should be able to see the ability he has regardless of the offense he's running.

I haven't gotten a chance to watch all of Barkley yet. I'll get there soon... But if you want to talk about captain checkdown, then Tyler Wilson is your guy. He rarely throws beyond 20 yards.

You'll see it maybe 5 times a game. The other 30 attempts or so will be checkdowns to the runningback, and hitting receivers on shallow crosses at the LOS.

The thing I DO like about Wilson is that he's used to making throws from strange angles and positions. His feet are almost never set correctly, and he moves around a lot like Jay Cutler. But if a guy can still be accurate while throwing off balance, and with defenders in your face, I have to admire that in a QB. Wilson takes a beating each and every game. That O-line is a disaster. But I really fail to see any kind of special factor with Wilson. I think he could be a below average starter. Or a decent back up in the NFL. Really not much more.

He makes Cassel reads is what kills me, he's going to throw at an area of the field no matter the coverage.

Nearly every offense incorporates concepts for the AirRaid such as mesh, shallow cross, smash, etc.

Holgerson places different primaries on his progressions, which is why you might see different results IMO.

Gee, it would have been nice to have a GM who hired Philbin + Tom Clements last year...

Did you watch 2011 games?

I think Geno is going to be a ****ing rock star from day one.

And I think you are being a little too critical of his feet. He doesn't have happy feet. He's moving them to keep them under his shoulders. Yes, he could plant better, but he does quickly plant and throw a lot and that's the reason for his movement. It's also a reason for his accute pocket awareness and quick mobility in the pocket. It's also a reason for his accuracy levels as he's actually planting, albeit very quickly, and throwing.

If you watch Geno, he's got an insanely fast release and his feet and planting are geared towards that. He's not just slinging the ball off his front foot on the move a la Brett Favre.

If you want to see "happy feet" from a high level NFL QB prospect, go watch Mark Sanchez at USC. That's happy feet. Geno doesn't have happy feet.

And I'll say it again, the release is the key.

Brady and Manning may be the two most un-athletic QB's in the league, but they've got two of the quickest releases I've ever seen.

Geno has that. The ball absolutely bursts off his hand. Goes from zero to receiver as quick as I've ever seen at the college level. The NFL is all about speed. Geno has minimal windup and the ball immediately leaves his hand at a high apex with amazing controlled velocity. Honestly, it's the best I can remember from a college quarterback in the past 15 or 20 years.