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keg in kc 05-18-2014 11:43 PM

To add my own color to this, speaking as someone who's had extremely low self-esteem his entire life, when conversations like this get going, it always strikes me just how little people actually understand what's going on in my head. Now, I can't speak for this guy, but I can speak from my own experience, and maybe the number one most misunderstood thing with my self-esteem is that it has anything at all to do with how other people see me. It actually doesn't. It has to do with how I see myself and where that kicks in with my social difficulties is just assuming that everyone else sees the same thing (aka 'projection'). It's hard to explain or to verbalize, but it's not so much caring what other people think of me as just expecting other people to realize right away that I'm broken, somehow. Like it's written on my forehead. (In my case it would say "loser" in flashing neon lights - that's the word I most often use to identify myself...). There's really nothing rational about it, it's just how I'm wired, and in the end how other people see me never really even factors into the equation. Hell, I've had people tell me I'm great, that I'm smart and funny and there's so much more I could be doing with my life. But it just rolls off me. Because it's not what I believe. All I can ever see in myself is the things that I identify as 'wrong'.

That's the nutshell version. Be happy those of you whose brains don't work this way...

Katipan 05-19-2014 06:31 AM

Such a self imposed prison, baby.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-19-2014 06:39 AM

Keg I have been there and still battle that every day. You CAN change though, but it takes a lot of effort and doing things you aren't always comfortable doing. I will agree that it's not as easy as people make it sound, but it all starts with forcing yourself to change. Know what your weaknesses are and either work on them or embrace them. Basically a prisoner of your own mind.

luv 05-19-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10637811)
To add my own color to this, speaking as someone who's had extremely low self-esteem his entire life, when conversations like this get going, it always strikes me just how little people actually understand what's going on in my head. Now, I can't speak for this guy, but I can speak from my own experience, and maybe the number one most misunderstood thing with my self-esteem is that it has anything at all to do with how other people see me. It actually doesn't. It has to do with how I see myself and where that kicks in with my social difficulties is just assuming that everyone else sees the same thing (aka 'projection'). It's hard to explain or to verbalize, but it's not so much caring what other people think of me as just expecting other people to realize right away that I'm broken, somehow. Like it's written on my forehead. (In my case it would say "loser" in flashing neon lights - that's the word I most often use to identify myself...). There's really nothing rational about it, it's just how I'm wired, and in the end how other people see me never really even factors into the equation. Hell, I've had people tell me I'm great, that I'm smart and funny and there's so much more I could be doing with my life. But it just rolls off me. Because it's not what I believe. All I can ever see in myself is the things that I identify as 'wrong'.

That's the nutshell version. Be happy those of you whose brains don't work this way...

Took me 37 years, but I'm breaking free from that way of thinking. It's so liberating.

luv 05-19-2014 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10637770)
It has nothing to do with attitude at this point.. There's something about who I am as a person that's defective.

And if that's the case, then there's really nothing I can do about it beside completely fabricating an entirely fake personality. Losing 15 to 30lbs won't really help in that regard.

You will never be able to truly be accepted by anyone else until you learn how to accept yourself. Something else I've learned in the last six months. The old me yearned for acceptance by other people for "me". I was willing to change who I was in order to be the type of person they would accept. Now, the more I'm learning to accept myself, the less I find myself "needing" the acceptance of others. Funny thing is, the less emphasis I put on it, the more I find people accepting me. Weird how that works.

Titty Meat 05-19-2014 08:31 AM

Luv Gaza strip or landing strip?

Titty Meat 05-19-2014 08:36 AM

I'm an asshole..I have no trouble admitting it..If a chick doesn't like that then she can go on with her life looking for whatever she wants..If a girl can handle my asshole attitude and my sarcasm from the start then she can be graced with my awesome and my sweet moves in the sack that will make her life a nonstop ride to orgasm land[/QUOTE]

Gonna steal that last line

Dayze 05-19-2014 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10638033)
Luv Gaza strip or landing strip?

LMAO

htismaqe 05-19-2014 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 10637981)
You will never be able to truly be accepted by anyone else until you learn how to accept yourself. Something else I've learned in the last six months. The old me yearned for acceptance by other people for "me". I was willing to change who I was in order to be the type of person they would accept. Now, the more I'm learning to accept myself, the less I find myself "needing" the acceptance of others. Funny thing is, the less emphasis I put on it, the more I find people accepting me. Weird how that works.

People's opinion of you are colored ultimately by your own opinion of yourself.

Be yourself, with CONFIDENCE, and not only will people accept you, they'll like you.

People flock to confidence.

Dayze 05-19-2014 08:53 AM

especially chicks.
chicks don't want an insecure guy.

confidence is a pheramone
*edit* Confidence whilst not being a prick.

GordonGekko 05-19-2014 09:29 AM

To everyone in this thread who gets down (including me) it could be worse, you could have broken your dick like this guy...

http://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comment..._morning_wood/

Dayze 05-19-2014 09:31 AM

I'm not even clicking that lol

Discuss Thrower 05-19-2014 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10638102)
To everyone in this thread who gets down (including me) it could be worse, you could have broken your dick like this guy...

http://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comment..._morning_wood/

http://media.giphy.com/media/DGiZfWmc0HWms/giphy.gif

NewChief 05-19-2014 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 10636385)
You are ****ing stupid. Just because I don't post in this thread every ****ing day doesn't mean that nothing is happening with my relationship in real life.

I know what makes a person an alcoholic you dumbass. She drinks too much and it's nearly every day. Unless I have her at my house she is drinking 2-3 bottles of wine a night. I made her quit drinking when she is with me because she pissed my bed too many times.

ROFL

Went back and read this today. 2-3 bottles and wet the bed. That's a bit extreme.

Dayze 05-19-2014 09:52 AM

"pissed the bed TOO many times" lol


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