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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 16276635)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Swing and a miss. Get em next draft. <a href="https://t.co/tnhRs6Uh35">pic.twitter.com/tnhRs6Uh35</a></p>— Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1520457739851476999?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This belongs in the Epic Fail thread LMAO

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...t-traded-no-13

Did the Chiefs get fleeced on the trade-up?

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The trade: Chiefs receive pick No. 21; Patriots receive picks Nos. 29, 94, 121
The value winner: Patriots (acquired 6.4 chart points, gave up 4.1)
Surplus value: Late second-round pick

Unless there's a quarterback involved, I think it's important to evaluate trades separate from the players selected at those spots. The trade is the process, the pick is the result. And while I'll touch on the result in a minute, we should be judging the process -- and New England's process in this trade was very strong.

The overwhelming conclusion of charts based on actual player performance is that the difference in production you get out of a player selected at, say, pick No. 29 is much closer to what you get out of pick No. 21 than trades typically indicate. Yes, the player selected at 21 has a better career outlook, but the difference between them and a player at 29 is substantially smaller than the value of additional third-round and fourth-round selections.
As far as the trade itself, New England absolutely comes out ahead.

Now, did the Patriots squander that value by selecting Cole Strange at No. 29? I would argue yes. One of the clearest errors a team can make is selecting a player long before they need to, and that seemed to be the case with Strange. Our Draft Day Predictor indicated there was a 93% chance Strange would be available at the Patriots' second-round selection. And while we certainly may have misread the market, the Rams' reaction tells us it probably shocked teams, too.

But the trade on its own was still a very strong return for the Patriots.

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16285116)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...t-traded-no-13

Did the Chiefs get fleeced on the trade-up?

This is ****ing stupid because it ignores the fact that the Chiefs got the last 1st round talent available on their board.

It’s not about a difference in 8 spots.

It’s a difference in a 1st round grade and a 2nd.

Fearing a run on CBs(?), it cost the Bills a 4th to move up

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16285123)

McDuffie easily could’ve gone top 15. If we gave up that same comp to move to the top 15, then it would be a steal.

At one time it was HUGE!

The Kansas City Chiefs officially signed one of their 2022 draft picks to a contract Friday afternoon, with many following after that.

Purdue defensive end George Karlaftis — the Chiefs took him with the 30th pick in last week’s NFL Draft — signed a four-year, fully guaranteed contract that was first reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

Later Friday, the team announced it had signed six others from its draft class:

First-round defensive back Trent McDuffie
Second-round defensive back Bryan Cook
Fifth-round offensive lineman Darian Kinnard
Seventh-rounders Jaylen Watson (defensive back), Isiah Pacheco (running back) and Nazeeh Johnson (defensive back)

Second-round receiver Skyy Moore, third-round linebacker Leo Chenal and fourth-round cornerback Joshua Williams remain as the three Chiefs drafted players who have not yet signed.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nf...261171692.html

Whoever wrote that was a little silly and uninformed.

Using the Hill chart (what most teams use in these trades) here are the pick values:

29 35.28
94 7.17
121 3.94
Total = 46.39

Pick 21 = 45.51

.88 is what we lost the trade by.

The equivalent of pick 188.

It’s not nothing, but it’s close.

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16285116)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...t-traded-no-13

Did the Chiefs get fleeced on the trade-up?

I think when you factor in the fact that we have a roster that is now chalk full of NFL talent, that needs to weigh into the cost/benefit equation. They moved up and got one of the top 3 corners in the draft and gave up two picks to do so - but then those sevenths become wasted picks because we don't have the roster space.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16285208)

They literally made up their own chart. It doesn't really give any insight into how each position in the draft is graded but the whole article is an ad for the chart they created. It's marketing.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16285208)

Factor in the players that were taken and we blew it out of the water.

Some people will just never get on board with trading up. I love it, go get game changers. Spend the capital you have.

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16285116)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...t-traded-no-13

Did the Chiefs get fleeced on the trade-up?

You are going to get roasted for this…never suggest that Vagich gave up too much in a trade.

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I love using an arbitrary value chart to determine if you were fleeced, and not actually looking at the draft to decide if you like the trade. .

With 11 picks next year expect this to keep happening.